stknowle Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ohio Saint said: I missed that!! Usually I'm always looking out for sex stuff. Did it happen on the pitch?? with another player??!!?? LOL!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 2 hours ago, maysie said: How naive No it isn't The philosophy is independent from the formation. In any case we only played 3 at the back for about 5-10 minutes and then went to 4222 formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 10 minutes ago, Chez said: we were fortunate to be leading considering how shit we were first half, so don't see it as dropping two points. Fought hard in the second half and made life harder for them. Didn't do much going forward, but the balance between attack and defence hasn't been right so we had to be more reserved. Disagree. What exactly did Chelsea create first half for all their possession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 3 minutes ago, LeG said: Big point. Salisu, vest, Djenepo with big performances. Diallo will walk into this side if Romeu keeps up these performances. What’re you talking about? He’s been one of our only decent performers recently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Just now, Matthew Le God said: No it isn't The philosophy is independent from the formation. In any case we only played 3 at the back for about 5-10 minutes and then went to 4222 formation. Lol. Got to admit I totally got it wrong 😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Curious to see what Ralph does once all are fit again as Bednarek has always been his go to centre back. Ralph really can't drop Salisu after today. He's done a "Diallo"....played himself into the best 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Hmmmn where is all the silly questioning of players mentality? All these 'weak' players lacking leaders surely should have folded in that second half according to the 'wisdom' of many on here..... When we don't get screwed over by the officials we start getting the points we more deserve, as we did today. Though I will say for all their millions and millions spent Chelsea still look pretty average, all Tuchel seems to have done is make them a bit more solid but more blunt as an attacking force. Should give us some confidence now, stopped the losing streak, got off 29 points, onwards to Leeds, which could be a very unpredictable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Two players who have really flattered to deceive, Redmond and Djenepo, were very good today. Cool from Minamino, the more minutes he gets under his belt he will be a great asset. All hail Salisu. He looks impressive. We can throw all the Forren comparisons in the bin now. Vestergaard very good aswell. One negative is that Bednarek is clearly not a RB, positionally he struggled and got done a few times. Honestly think he could with a rest. Seems to have played every game for us for the past 2 years. Sooner Diallo or KWP is back the better 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, saintwbu said: What’re you talking about? He’s been one of our only decent performers recently He was miles better than golden boy today, that’s for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 A well earned point. Felt like a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Salisu kept us in that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 1 minute ago, austsaint said: Ralph really can't drop Salisu after today. He's done a "Diallo"....played himself into the best 11. Agreeed. Who does he drop though once KWP is back and assuming we go back to 4222? For me Bednarek, which is harsh on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Ooof, Tuchel throwing him under the bus there. Admitting that subbing the sub was tactical? That press conference he was fuming, ‘tis funny that we’ve managed to wind him up that much lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Just now, egg said: Agreeed. Who does he drop though once KWP is back and assuming we go back to 4222? For me Bednarek, which is harsh on him. Yeah i think you have to keep Vest in because on top of his defending he offers more going forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 1 minute ago, egg said: Agreeed. Who does he drop though once KWP is back and assuming we go back to 4222? For me Bednarek, which is harsh on him. It would be hard on Bednarek, yet as things stand you would have to guess he will be the unlucky one when KWP returns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 We needed to get a scrappy result on the board, just like that. Just a shame that once again we lose a lead though, we really need to work on that. We didn't play well in possession or attack, but we defended well. Midfield was poor though, esp. Romeu who was just a yard off it. Moussa was like a simmering firework on the right, he was great value, but you always felt nervous and wide open with him there. Ings anonymous, but mainly because of the lack of midfield stability. Redmond with a delightful defence splitting pass, he made good runs off the ball but didn't really cause them too many problems during the game. Minimino good on the ball once he settled into the game (he started poorly) but he needs to be much better off the ball and much more aggressive if he's to be a success at this level. Last and final note to Salisu. The wait was worth it by the looks of it. I honestly didn't have a clue what was going on with him, maybe we will never know the full story...but he looks like an excellent player and well worth the wait. He reads the game amazingly well, seems to sniff out danger - an un-coachable trait and often the signs of a very good football player. On wards and upwards I guess. 30 points at last. We are truly marooned in mid table nothingness, so the next 3 games is a test to see if we can push beyond that or that's where we will be staying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Nice to see that we made their manager throw quite a few tantrums. He is clearly a sulky little brat who expects to win every match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 3 minutes ago, egg said: Agreeed. Who does he drop though once KWP is back and assuming we go back to 4222? For me Bednarek, which is harsh on him. It’s a good headache for RH to have, bit of competition and a quality CB on bench just in case. About time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimmy_D said: Ooof, Tuchel throwing him under the bus there. Admitting that subbing the sub was tactical? That press conference he was fuming, ‘tis funny that we’ve managed to wind him up that much lol. I think his own players wound him up by playing poorly. Joe Cole hasn't got a clue. What's he going on about with Hudson-Odoi? It's ok for him to stand around not doing what he's told because at one point he might do something quite good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Bednarek has been competent for us but never really anything more. A couple of brilliant games here and there and a couple of stinkers. I can’t say I’d be upset to lose him from the XI. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveloyMush Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: No it isn't The philosophy is independent from the formation. In any case we only played 3 at the back for about 5-10 minutes and then went to 4222 formation. I don't care what the formation might have been, the philosophy certainly changed. Less exhausting pressing (perhaps the reason for Ings' anonymity - except at the wrong end! Also note the team didn't wilt after 60 minutes); far less faffing about at the back and recycling between midfield and defence; far more incisive, forward-thinking play, combined with a greater fluidity of positions. All of this whilst holding out a physical, talented team - it was like men against (brave) boys at times. Djenepo was like 2 players out there today (and Kante like his usual 3). Edited 20 February, 2021 by SaveloyMush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Salisu is our best centre back by a distance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 4 minutes ago, austsaint said: It would be hard on Bednarek, yet as things stand you would have to guess he will be the unlucky one when KWP returns. Another possibility is 343. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Very pleased with the point, we need to grind out more results like that. Salisu and Djenepo excellent joint men of the match in my opinion. Ings disappointing, needs a rest on Tuesday have him on the bench. Vestergaaard unlucky to hit the woodwork. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Cracking result. Well done Saints. Happy to stop the rot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Take a bow Moussa, Salisu Vesty and Bertrand. That was excellent. Mina has the shooting boots to play up front with Ings. Get KWP back and that back four could be the best defence we’ve had in years. Vesty and Salisu showed they can not only play together as I suspected they could, they were excellent against a top in form side like Chelsea today Redmond is just Redmond, he shouldn’t start. Keep Stephens away. Come back starts yoday 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Djenepo was brilliant, i think he gets a tough time on here when so often he seems to be Ralph’s go-to utility man. Often puts a real shift in for the team when i’m sure he’d much rather be attacking further up the pitch. Really pleased for him today. Salisu also very good, dare I say it, we’ve made two good signings in the summer? 😮 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 14 minutes ago, egg said: Agreeed. Who does he drop though once KWP is back and assuming we go back to 4222? For me Bednarek, which is harsh on him. I think over the last 6-7 games its not that harsh, would like to see a vest salisu pairing for a bit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totton Saint Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 31 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: Ah can't believe we got a point. It was attack after attack from Chelsea but we can take heart. Really impressed with Salisu, Djenepo and thought Tella looks to have really improved too. I posted BEFORE START I had a good feeling about this game. Did same for Liverpool game. Pity I am not a betting man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 1 hour ago, jawillwill said: Some fans are weird. It was the most blatant penalty you'll ever see. Apart from the one we didn't get against Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 take a point all day long. Seems like we sacrificed attack to keep numbers at the back. Armstrong and KWP are such huge losses for us. Very assured from Salisu, Djenepo with some serious workrate too. Ings very quiet, but Tuesday night should be a completely different game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Djenepo was brilliant, i think he gets a tough time on here when so often he seems to be Ralph’s go-to utility man. Often puts a real shift in for the team when i’m sure he’d much rather be attacking further up the pitch. Really pleased for him today. Salisu also very good, dare I say it, we’ve made two good signings in the summer? 😮 Our first two transfer windows without Ross Wilsons influence have been very positive. KWP - Loan in the Jan window KWP Perm, Salisu perm, Diallo perm in the summer window. Theo and Minamino loans. Edited 20 February, 2021 by S-Clarke 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydney_saint Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 I wasn't that keen on Minamino today. Yes he walked away with the goal, but I didn't feel like he was fighting for the team. Compare that to Djenepo who would love a goal, but instead threw his brittle body at everything. Minamino will probably get more headlines, but it was Djenepo who showed real guts today. Rest of the team were good. I think JWP and Romeu did okay. That Chelsea midfield is very strong and whilst their passing was off today and didn't connect many tackles, they did well to cut off passing lanes and give defence protection. Salisu looks a hell of a player. Him and Vest have to start now. Whilst it may seem harsh on Bednarek, this is how we want things. We want players playing their way into the first team. In too many positions players go from the bench to first XI because the person in the first XI is out of form, not because the bench player fought their way back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 8 minutes ago, Avenue_Saint said: Take a bow Moussa, Salisu Vesty and Bertrand. That was excellent. Mina has the shooting boots to play up front with Ings. Get KWP back and that back four could be the best defence we’ve had in years. Vesty and Salisu showed they can not only play together as I suspected they could, they were excellent against a top in form side like Chelsea today Redmond is just Redmond, he shouldn’t start. Keep Stephens away. Come back starts yoday Genuine question - did you watch the game? If you did, you would have seen that Redmond was our best attacking player by a mile. Knock him if he's shit, but give credit where its due. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 The penalty was the sort where against us it was given with barely a check but for us I’m sure they’d have looked in minute detail and seen that Ings did just get a bit of the ball. I’d say it probably was a pen, but nowhere near as clear cut as some have suggested. We’ve had better shouts refused. The refereeing today, apart from the penalty, didn’t have a critical effect on the result, but how Chelsea survived all those hacks on Djenepo without even a yellow, I don’t know. There were two tackles worse than Bertrand’s when he was sent off against Leicester and Djenepo when he saw red too. And quite a few where we didn’t even get a free kick. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Our first two transfer windows without Ross Wilsons influence have been very positive. KWP - Loan in the Jan window KWP Perm, Salisu perm, Diallo perm in the summer window. Theo and Minamino loans. Very tidy additions. Probably the best recruitment since the days of Paul Mitchell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 (edited) Good point from a very good defensive set up. Minamino and Redmond were dreadful up until the goal. Moussa was every where, winning the ball and taking Chelsea on. Not sure how that tackle on him from Werner was any different from the one Moussa got sent off for last year. MOM for Salisu. He looks a he'll of a player. Edited 20 February, 2021 by redkeith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 I've consumed the last few games, chewed the cud, and decided that nothing particularly positive will grace our pasture for however long the GAO era lasts. Maybe it's time to take a nap for a few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 1 minute ago, egg said: Genuine question - did you watch the game? If you did, you would have seen that Redmond was our best attacking player by a mile. Knock him if he's shit, but give credit where its due. Don’t think he was Egg. Sorry mate He did some good things but overall just blunts our attack. One occasion, Mina had acres in front of him, instead of playing him in on overlap, he drags it back, then plays the ball forward when I pouts lost, goes out of play. Too many situations like that have got the beating of me for him sadly. he simply doesn’t have a football brain. Djenepo was the best player on the pitch today. Followed by Salisu. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 43 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: Ah can't believe we got a point. It was attack after attack from Chelsea but we can take heart. Really impressed with Salisu, Djenepo and thought Tella looks to have really improved too. How many saves did McCarthy make out of interest? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Didn’t see the game but more than happy with the result. Sounds as if Moussa & Salisu put in a good shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Decent point for a low confidence team but to be honest we let Chelsea have very little so credit where its due. Mom, Moussa or Salisu and Redmond did pretty well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 12 minutes ago, Teddeer said: How many saves did McCarthy make out of interest? One and it was offside any way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Disappointed to have thrown away the lead, again, but if you'd offered me a draw before the game I'd have taken it. Any point is a welcome point at the moment. If we can get something at Leeds it would be superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 18 minutes ago, egg said: Genuine question - did you watch the game? If you did, you would have seen that Redmond was our best attacking player by a mile. Knock him if he's shit, but give credit where its due. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 3 hours ago, maysie said: Wheels well and truly coming off. We all know what happened last time Ralph abandoned his philosophy... What wheels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 Just now, Chapel End said: What wheels? We don’t have any. We drift around in mid-table, like a hovercraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: We don’t have any. We drift around in mid-table, like a hovercraft. 👌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chapel End said: 👌 Hermione Granger is our manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 20 February, 2021 Share Posted 20 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Ohio Saint said: Hermione Granger is our manager. I`m lost 🥴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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