Archers Road Stand Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Absolutely shite performance. So Saintsy after that performance against City. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 We're always going to get good saves from Pickford today, just inevitable. We don't create much as it is, but then he'll save the few opportunities we do. This has an inevitable feel about it, and sadly if it ends like this the curtain on our PL life is halfway down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 When che adams is your main striker, you deserve to go down. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 1 minute ago, egg said: Yep. KWP has been shit. Adams ditto. Give the criticism where it's deserved. Moi being played out of position, this is more of a back 5 than 433, hes that deep. anyone watching could easily tell that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 24 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Cup quarter finals against Man City for example? would rather they turned up vs Forest and Everton Entirely predictable so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: hoooooooooof Everton you mean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christhetoerag Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Why on earth is Ellounusi playing. Keep a winning team apart from the one injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Just now, Ed Rooney said: No point No screen on 96.1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Close to an equaliser there. JWP unlucky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 The one positive to come out of that half is JWP looks much more effective playing higher up the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Everton wasted a minute of that injury time with their own head injury, we get the ball back on their D and he blows after just 30seconds there. Pathetic. Basic things for refs to sort out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Fair play to Everton playing Onana whats my name? at half time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 They have Pickford, we have Bazunu. What a difference a quality keeper makes. Not blaming Bazunu for todays goal but he's not making that save. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Ah normal Saturday service resumed. Onto the next one. (I know there’s still a half left but we know it’s over, they’re way more physical than we ever will be). Villa is a must win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Mo off, Adams off and Edozie off. Bring on the new blokes and maybe Armstrong or Djenepo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallaghert366@yahoo.com Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 1 minute ago, UpweySaint said: I don't mind early balls over the top in principle to vary play but neither Ely or Adams have much in the way of pace so it doesn't seem to suit. Much prefer Adams in a proper two up top with somebody with pace (AA?) off him. Are you taking the proverbial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Yep, poor performance from all of those 3. Edozie has got talents but just not productive anything. Adams has got a job on against those defenders on his own, but he’s not really making a good fist of it. Dammit JWP, close. chance set up by Edozie, with a lovely early pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Just once..can it go in. Good save Pickford. We've had chances, but as usual can;t get them over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 1 minute ago, egg said: No screen on 96.1 ? Watching the game donut…. You ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Adam Armstrong and mara gave us so much more movement and pace vs city. Both taken off and rested during that game, both benched today. Che Adams should be dropped playing the way we are now, he just doesn't offer the movement or finishing required. Poor from jones really, he chose a the team and its a must win game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixedkebab Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Feel like that was a decent performance in midfield and defence all undone by conceding from a corner. They’ve had more luck than us. JWP looked dangerous, we can get at least a point from this with the right subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Tough , physical game so far ...Get the new signings on 2nd half ...we have to win the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 1 minute ago, Dman said: Moi being played out of position, this is more of a back 5 than 433, hes that deep. anyone watching could easily tell that. Indeed. If people are watching it beggars belief that they think he's playing on the wing. It's an in/out role deepish on the right. That said, I'd stretch the play with Djenepo on that side playing higher up the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: They have Pickford, we have Bazunu. What a difference a quality keeper makes. Not blaming Bazunu for todays goal but he's not making that save. I think it’s fair to blame him for that, partly. Shouldn’t be facing a free header but his positioning is awful. Most prem keepers get to that IMO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, trousers said: The one positive to come out of that half is JWP looks much more effective playing higher up the field. Particularly first 30 mins or so he was really far forward, often almost playing off of and beyond Adams. A good position for him if we can get the other bits right. A reasonable start to the game and some bright spots but the press isn’t as effective as it was against City, giving Everton too much time. Poor goal to concede from but we’ve had chances. Edited 14 January, 2023 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Frustrating game. Essentially been extremely scrappy. Chances pretty even (us JWP & Salisu) chances, them (goal & bazanu spill) but our weakness from set pieces killing us. Hopefully we get a HT change getting Elyounessi off or moving him into the centre and taking diallo off. A.Armstrong on. I'd love Romeu to be around to clatter Onana who has been excellent for them. Maybe Lyanco can drift in and do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Ah normal Saturday service resumed. Onto the next one. (I know there’s still a half left but we know it’s over, they’re way more physical than we ever will be). Villa is a must win! it's far from over. Everton are turd. If we can get our game going, we can easily get back in this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Not having a lot of luck so far are we? Have to say though Diallo and Ely are 1 star footballers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dman said: Moi being played out of position, this is more of a back 5 than 433, hes that deep. anyone watching could easily tell that. That’s not how it was set out at the start and for the first 10/15 mins, anyone watching could easily tell that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Looking very much like 4 league games 4 defeats to teams around us. The cup game was special, but Jones is once again showing incapable of making the right decisions. He is unable to see that a Moi/Adams/Edozie front line is totally ineffective. Yet keeps sending out the same team. Why did we sign Orsic and not play him? Is he not considered as good as Edozie / Moi? Fully expect the same team second half. Failure to win today and we'll be starting to drop off the bottom and it's a long way back.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Bazunu what Is he good at except distribution? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dman said: Moi being played out of position, this is more of a back 5 than 433, hes that deep. anyone watching could easily tell that. Because he can't get up and down quickly enough. He seems like a good lad but he's utterly pointless. Half the player of Nathan Redmond, for example. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 The shape and approach to the game is correct, having 3 and pushing JWP further up 'works'. Our problem today has been the horrendous quality in that final third. Adams/Edozie are not pressing, winning the ball or doing anything of note. Elyounoussi has been restricted in his role, but he struggles to then escape further up field as he's so slow, whereas Moussa had the legs to push higher. So, tactically it's not all wrong, it's the personal that is wrong. Mara may have been tired after the Weds game (he's a young kid Afterall), but it just shows up the lack of quality in the squad. I know Jones speaks about ''we may not get a number 9'', but that is exactly what we need - a competent number 9 who is able to hold the ball up, because without that then we're toast already. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 (edited) How poor is Bazunu? That was nowhere near in the corner and he got nowhere near it. Can’t think of any other way to say nowhere near. Edited 14 January, 2023 by niceandfriendly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDog07 Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 I said this over Xmas, if we didn’t get a striker in at the start of the window, before the Nottm Forest match, we’d probably get nothing from the remaining 4 winnable games before we head into Feb/March and tackle teams in the top half of the table. I don’t know how a board of so-called football experts couldn’t see we have nobody capable of scoring a goal and couldn’t have an striker and attacking options completed before or within the first few days of the window when we needed them most. Even the most positive of supporter must see there is no escape from relegation if we end up losing this match, EVEN if we end up bringing in a striker to score us a few goals, our winnable games have been pissed away, just all too reactive when we should have been proactive in the summer or at latest EARLY January. We’ll have gifted all teams we are fighting around us 3pts from our games against us and that is criminal. 7 league losses or is it more potentially in a row, no team survives from that. Makes me sad and angry at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 5 minutes ago, Dman said: Moi being played out of position, this is more of a back 5 than 433, hes that deep. anyone watching could easily tell that. I'm watch and I don't see that at all. Lyanco is playing right back. Its four at the back not five. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Just now, Ed Rooney said: That’s not how it was set out at the start and for the first 10/15 mins, anyone watching could easily tell that Correct, but half way through the first half it changed. Coincidently our best chance came from when Moi was playing higher, with a deflected shot which on another day lands on Adams head. Blame Moi as much as you want, something has changed, he’s now playing a hybrid wing back role (not very well granted, but that’s not his position), but this is on the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Just now, Mr X said: Bazunu what Is he good at except distribution? That's more than Forster or McCarthy had. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 I cannot believe somebody is spending their Saturday afternoon defending Elyounoussi 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said: Watching the game donut…. You ? Then explain what Ely hasn't done that you expect someone playing his role to do, and what he's done wrong. KWP, Adams, Edozie have all been worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 I'm not going to single out Ely, but our entire front line has been completely ineffective so far. They haven't created anything yet, and they make it far too easy for the Everton defenders to play out and set up an attack. I don't get Jones' thinking. He finally dropped the players that have been underperforming all season on Wednesday and it worked. So why on Earth would he bring them back in again for an even more important game? We've even got two new lads on the bench but he still sticks with the players that should be nowhere near the pitch. Baffling. If we lose this (which we're obviously going to - it's Everton away) it's all on the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chez said: it's far from over. Everton are turd. If we can get our game going, we can easily get back in this. This. COYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 (edited) Why change a fucking winning team! Drop both goalscorers. Bring back out of form Elyounoussi. Leave out our new forward. I'm so pissed off right now. I was starting to feel some confidence again. What was I thinking? Edited 14 January, 2023 by Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 Defending for their goal is the difference, can't get away with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 1 minute ago, Chez said: I'm watch and I don't see that at all. Lyanco is playing right back. Its four at the back not five. Yep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dman said: Moi being played out of position, this is more of a back 5 than 433, hes that deep. anyone watching could easily tell that. Don't see that at all. Lyanco is definitely playing RB. Elyounessi has just been absymal as a right sided forward. Not as if you can point ot stellar work defensively he has done. He's just been a spectator apart from when he's getting owned by Mykalenko. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 All out attack here. Not even a draw is any good to anyone now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chez said: it's far from over. Everton are turd. If we can get our game going, we can easily get back in this. Agreed. Pretty even half where a mistake seem to cost us, as usual. We could, maybe should, be ahead based on the chances. Pickford been the busier of the 2 keepers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 FOYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 14 January, 2023 Share Posted 14 January, 2023 This is one of those games where if Saints get an equaliser they ought to be able to go on and win it. We really need a minimum of a point from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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