The Spygate Saga

[HKsaint]

5 hours ago, do i not like fizzy pop said:

This is bloody hilarious! 🤣

So he is so desperate and trying every means to go PL, playing an extra game, fail in which abandoning his team… pathetic 

[CB Fry]

Er, I dont think this Helberg stuff is real lads.

[Dr Who?]

And it drags on! 

 

[Stud mark of doom]

From this week’s letters to The Economist. 

[Andy Hill]

Need to send this to the FA and the EFL ?!

[Dr Who?]

Are the FA actually doing anything about Tonda, is there an investigation going on? 

[Give it to Ron]

1 hour ago, Dr Who? said:

Are the FA actually doing anything about Tonda, is there an investigation going on? 

Yes I believe hearing soon maybe this week

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Dr Who? said:

Are the FA actually doing anything about Tonda, is there an investigation going on? 

Perhaps they’ll publish (sneak) the outcome to the media ahead of or just after the England game to ‘manage’ the publicity, whichever way it goes. 

[Window Cleaner]

15 hours ago, Dr Who? said:

Are the FA actually doing anything about Tonda, is there an investigation going on? 

Certainly, what was it that Blair said at some Middle East crisis or other, ah yes doing nothing is not an option. Even if he gets a token punishment they have to look into it.

[Mr X]

Any sign of knowing when will we actually find out if Tonda is officially managing us next season or an FA ban? When are we likely to find out? 

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

Saw a reasonable theory on the UI about this, it was suggested that we've appointed top legal bods in an attempt to continually delay the proceedings, much as City and the like have done.

The thinking that by the time any sanctions against Tonda are filed, he may well have already moved on, be it that it was a successful season and headhunted or just contract up. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

11 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Saw a reasonable theory on the UI about this, it was suggested that we've appointed top legal bods in an attempt to continually delay the proceedings, much as City and the like have done.

The thinking that by the time any sanctions against Tonda are filed, he may well have already moved on, be it that it was a successful season and headhunted or just contract up. 

We could back date Tonda's employment with us. Then link him to the City transfers of Edozie, Baz, Larios etc. The government will shut it all down, as not being in the national interest.

[trousers]

50 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Saw a reasonable theory on the UI about this, it was suggested that we've appointed top legal bods in an attempt to continually delay the proceedings, much as City and the like have done.

The thinking that by the time any sanctions against Tonda are filed, he may well have already moved on, be it that it was a successful season and headhunted or just contract up. 

In a parallel universe, we had these 'top legal bods' onboard at the outset and we're now preparing for life back in the Premier League having beaten Hull in the playoff final....

[Window Cleaner]

3 minutes ago, trousers said:

In a parallel universe, we had these 'top legal bods' onboard at the outset and we're now preparing for life back in the Premier League having beaten Hull in the playoff final....

If you say so. An EFL tribunal isn't a court of law. The EFL makes the rules, applies them according to their whim and hands out the sanctions. A top legal eagle might find some  disputable point or other but as we lied and then admitted it the outcome would be the same. As, or so I think,we are the first club actually caught breaking rule 127 they have established a precedent. Don't do it or don't get caught because the punishment will be severe.

[Secret Site Agent]

1 hour ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Saw a reasonable theory on the UI about this, it was suggested that we've appointed top legal bods in an attempt to continually delay the proceedings, much as City and the like have done.

The thinking that by the time any sanctions against Tonda are filed, he may well have already moved on, be it that it was a successful season and headhunted or just contract up. 

Or Retired from football?

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

4 minutes ago, Secret Site Agent said:

Or Retired from football?

If delayed ala Man City, very possible 🤪  they were going on the average lifespan of a manager at one club being around 18 months 

[trousers]

54 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said:

If you say so. An EFL tribunal isn't a court of law. The EFL makes the rules, applies them according to their whim and hands out the sanctions. A top legal eagle might find some  disputable point or other but as we lied and then admitted it the outcome would be the same. As, or so I think,we are the first club actually caught breaking rule 127 they have established a precedent. Don't do it or don't get caught because the punishment will be severe.

Oops... Forgot to 'wink' at the end of my post... I keep forgetting people take stuff too seriously otherwise... 

#tongueincheek

Edited 19 hours ago by trousers

[obelisk]

I was in the pub this afternoon (sorry if you're working) and noticed on the telly that they were actually showing England training sessions. Not only that but there were people behind the fence - and trees! - who were also "spying". What on earth should the punishment be?

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, obelisk said:

I was in the pub this afternoon (sorry if you're working) and noticed on the telly that they were actually showing England training sessions. Not only that but there were people behind the fence - and trees! - who were also "spying". What on earth should the punishment be?

None, as that was our analyst team, getting some practice in on a post season trip.

[Dark Munster]

4 hours ago, Window Cleaner said:

If you say so. An EFL tribunal isn't a court of law. The EFL makes the rules, applies them according to their whim and hands out the sanctions. A top legal eagle might find some  disputable point or other but as we lied and then admitted it the outcome would be the same. As, or so I think,we are the first club actually caught breaking rule 127 they have established a precedent. Don't do it or don't get caught because the punishment will be severe.

Having top legal representation from the get go could have avoided that.

[spyinthesky]

13 minutes ago, Dark Munster said:

Having top legal representation from the get go could have avoided that.

Perleese!!!
Dont demean yourself by using American English.
Plenty of proper English such as 'from the beginning'. 'from the outset' etc etc😉

[S-Clarke]

I notice that Craig Hope, the guy so completely appalled by what we did, has leaked the supposed England team news ahead of tomorrow.

[Dark Munster]

5 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

Perleese!!!
Dont demean yourself by using American English.
Plenty of proper English such as 'from the beginning'. 'from the outset' etc etc😉

In my defence I've lived in San Diego for almost 40 years! I try to keep a stiff upper British lip but occasionally I demean myself and an Americanism sneaks in.

[rallyboy]

Unlike the EFL who had no legal precedent for that new law, the FA have previously dealt with a manager who has admitted to observing other clubs.

The legal precedent set by Bielsa's case of many more charges than Saints, is that he received NO personal ban at all, the club fine was deemed sufficient - while the media all laughed that off as a storm in a teacup.

So if the FA attempt to impose any personal ban it should be robustly challenged through their 'independent' system and then in a real court, where legal process is followed and former Middlesbrough players don't decide what's best for Middlesbrough.

Enough is enough.

[spyinthesky]

10 hours ago, Dark Munster said:

In my defence I've lived in San Diego for almost 40 years! I try to keep a stiff upper British lip but occasionally I demean myself and an Americanism sneaks in.

I remember seeing the Rolling Stones at the Chargers Stadium in the early 1980's during a visit to family in the area.
Really wanted to go to a George Benson show in the centre of the city but the Stones show was an experience.
Sat at the top of one of the open stands with an overpowering smell of cannabis.
Nice place to live, I imagine.