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    Tough game. They've been brilliant this season.

    Rest Ings & save him for Bournemouth.

    Is Deeney still out for them?

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    Cant go into this giving up the middle of the park again
    I hope Deeney is still suspended as they are a good side

    I hope Vest and Valary are back and Lemina starts

    a point would be a good result

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    I think we've now seen why Sims hasn't played away games until today. I'd certainly leave him out and probably Ings, with Lemina and Armstrong to come in.

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    They are a good side. Subtle mix of strength and skill in all areas, would probably take a point now.

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    Dont underestimate the extra 2.5 hours recuperation time.

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    We are complete ****e.
    Heres hoping for 3 points.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Tough game. They've been brilliant this season.

    Rest Ings & save him for Bournemouth.

    Is Deeney still out for them?
    Yes and yes.

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    Big lads, big hearts and balls needed for this one

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    Defeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanimal View Post
    Big lads, big hearts and balls needed for this one
    Yes. Watford are basically a team of thugs. We desperately need the ref onside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saints foreva View Post
    Defeat.
    Probably. I hoped we'd squeeze a draw a against Newcastle.

    This one, I'm less optimistic about.

    I think it's all about our remaining home games.

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    Comfortable win. Lemina to have a blinder.

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    F*ck me, we lose one game and suddenly we’re a terrible team?

    Hopefully we will have at least one of Valery and Vestergaard back. If we can move JWP into midfield it should make us a bit more solid. Keep it tight for the first hour or so (unlike yesterday) then see if we can snatch something.

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    It'll be a tough game. They are a big, physical side and too many refs let them get away with it.

    Probably not a game for Sims to start. We could do with Vestergaard and Valery back and it sounds as if there's a good chance with both. Armstrong and Lemina both have strong cases to start but there's not room for them and JWP. At least they are still without Deeney.

    Could be a game to park the bus and look to hit them on the break. In which case, Long comes into the equation.

    I'd consider

    Gunn
    Valery (or Ramsey. Be bold) Yoshida Vestergaard (or no-one) Bednarek Bertrand
    Hojbjerg Romeu
    JWP Long Redmond

    Subs: McCarthy (Forster), Armstrong, Ings, Lemina, Stephens, Sims, Targett



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    Tough game.

    Only hope is they are thinking about an up coming Cup final and ease off a bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek2003 View Post
    Tough game.

    Only hope is they are thinking about an up coming Cup final and ease off a bit?
    The awesome prize of 7th place is also in sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek2003 View Post
    Tough game.

    Only hope is they are thinking about an up coming Cup final and ease off a bit?





    You are right. If they didn't have the Cup Final in their sights we wouldn't stand a chance. They would thrash us. Probably 9 nil. Or maybe 12 nil. Maybe we wouldn't bother turning up as they would get a 3 nil win allocated by the Premier League which would be better for our goal difference. As CB would say "Jesus wept!"

    I think that some of our fans need to grow a pair. Thank God this forum wasn't around for the relegation battles of the '90's when we really were c rap

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    think we'll win this one - if Valery is fit

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    On the basis that Vestergaard is still out, I'd start with the 4-2-2-2 that we finished the game with yesterday. We looked a lot more solid in the centre of the park and less shaky at the back. Romeu had a shocker and it's a close call between Ings and Long upfront as Ings was pretty terrible yesterday and Long has actually looked half decent in recent games.

    Gunn
    Valery
    Bednarek
    Yoshida
    Bertrand
    Hojbjerg
    Lemina
    Armstrong
    JWP
    Redmond
    Ings

    Subs:
    Forster
    Stephens
    Ramsey
    Romeu
    Sims
    Long
    Austin

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    Gunn

    Valery Bednarek Vesterguard Bertrand
    Romeu Lemina Hojbjerg
    JWP Ings Redmond

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    Yes. Watford are basically a team of thugs. We desperately need the ref onside.

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    What? They play wonderful football at times and deserve to be fighting for 7th. After yesterday's non-show humiliation can only see one result here.

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    Id be happy with a point tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman View Post
    What? They play wonderful football at times and deserve to be fighting for 7th. After yesterday's non-show humiliation can only see one result here.
    Presumably this also applies to Palace, Cardiff, Bournemouth and Fulham, who will all replicate this weekends form in their remaining games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman View Post
    What? They play wonderful football at times and deserve to be fighting for 7th. After yesterday's non-show humiliation can only see one result here.
    You didn't watch the second half then?

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    Hopefully Valery and vestergaard are back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by for_heaven's_Saint View Post
    F*ck me, we lose one game and suddenly were a terrible team?
    We've only mustered 36 points in consecutive seasons - there's no "suddenly" about it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyell View Post
    We've only mustered 36 points in consecutive seasons - there's no "suddenly" about it.
    We’d also won 4 out of 6 before this weekend and the 2 we didn’t were Liverpool and a narrow, probably underserved, loss at OT. Performances under other managers aren’t relevant now, under Ralph were a mid table team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadhall Saint View Post
    Id be happy with a point tbh
    me too.

    that will put us up 6 points above Cardiff, carrying a better GD.

    with three matches to go, It is hard to imagine Cardiff getting 7 points and Saints getting nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertyell View Post
    We've only mustered 36 points in consecutive seasons - there's no "suddenly" about it.
    We still have 4 games to play this season and we’d won 4 of our last 6 before Saturday.

    We’re not as good as we used to be but we are not terrible.

    Huddersfield have 14 points- that’s a terrible team.

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    Watford owe us a couple of jammy extra-time handball or offside goals. Think we'll sneak this one that way. 0-1 to the Saints. Would take a point though. Need to take Delafou (sp) out of the game early...not very sporting, but hey this is about safety and survival.

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    Deeney's out, and I fancy us for this one, especially if Valery and Vestergaard are fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry_SFC View Post
    On the basis that Vestergaard is still out, I'd start with the 4-2-2-2 that we finished the game with yesterday. We looked a lot more solid in the centre of the park and less shaky at the back. Romeu had a shocker and it's a close call between Ings and Long upfront as Ings was pretty terrible yesterday and Long has actually looked half decent in recent games.

    Gunn
    Valery
    Bednarek
    Yoshida
    Bertrand
    Hojbjerg
    Lemina
    Armstrong
    JWP
    Redmond
    Ings

    Subs:
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    Stephens
    Ramsey
    Romeu
    Sims
    Long
    Austin
    Not a bad call....I think Id have Romeu in for Armstrong sitting in the defensive pairing with Hojbjerg and Lemieux slightly further forward with JWP. Only reason for this is I think it gives us more muscle.......1-1


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmer42 View Post
    Not a bad call....I think Id have Romeu in for Armstrong sitting in the defensive pairing with Hojbjerg and Lemieux slightly further forward with JWP. Only reason for this is I think it gives us more muscle.......1-1


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    That should read Lemina......bloody predictive text


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    Unfortunately the table doesn’t lie and they are a better team than us. Deeney out will swing it slightly for us, but probably not enough. As said above, they are a brutish horrible side and at home the Ref will give them all the calls. Need to maximise our strength in midfield with Hojberg, Lemina and Armstrong...Romeu on for Armstrong later for more bite if necessary. Whether Long or Ings...not sure...it’s going to be a hard slog all day for us up top.

    Result? 3-1 loss.

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    Gunn

    Valery
    Vest
    Yoshida
    Bertrand

    Rom
    Hoj
    Lemina

    Armstrong
    Ings
    Redmond

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Fan CaM View Post
    Unfortunately the table doesnt lie and they are a better team than us. Deeney out will swing it slightly for us, but probably not enough. As said above, they are a brutish horrible side and at home the Ref will give them all the calls. Need to maximise our strength in midfield with Hojberg, Lemina and Armstrong...Romeu on for Armstrong later for more bite if necessary. Whether Long or Ings...not sure...its going to be a hard slog all day for us up top.

    Result? 3-1 loss.

    The table doesn't show we had Mark Hughes in charge nearly half a season.

    Watford have had a better season and more confidence, but it's clearly a game where anyone can win.

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    Gunn
    Valery Bednarek Yoshida Vestegaard Bertrand
    JWP Romeu PEH Redmond
    Long

    This is my prediction for what Ralph will play.

    Personally I would prefer a 4231, with Sims and Redmond on the wings, Armstrong in the hole, and Ings/Long up top- don't want to risk Ings if it will screw him over for game against Bournemouth.
    In terms of centrebacks, then definitely drop Stephens, and I'd probably start Yoshida with Bednarek tbh, haven't really liked Vestergaard in a back 4.

    I am really looking forward to this one, as I do with all London away games, if you classify Watford in London that is.
    We need to rectify the last two injustices we have had against Watford- we had the Austin goal disallowed start of this season, and this fixture last season they had the handball.
    So, 1-0 Saints. Redmond to score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    Yes. Watford are basically a team of thugs. We desperately need the ref onside.

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    Not sure it'll help our chances much. It looks like the referee is Mike Dean...

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    Armstrong is essential for this game IMO. As others have pointed out, Watford are going to be very physical and his time in Scotland will help with this. Also, they're solid defensively and he's about the only player who can play a defence splitting pass against these teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by for_heaven's_Saint View Post
    F*ck me, we lose one game and suddenly we’re a terrible team?

    Hopefully we will have at least one of Valery and Vestergaard back. If we can move JWP into midfield it should make us a bit more solid. Keep it tight for the first hour or so (unlike yesterday) then see if we can snatch something.
    We've been a terrible team for about 3 years now. We just have a manager who's currently making us look better than we are. Please don't tell me you buy into this "With the players we have, we shouldn't be down here" crap?

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    1-2 Win.
    With the players we have, we shouldn't be down here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Gunn

    Valery
    Vest
    Yoshida
    Bertrand

    Rom
    Hoj
    Lemina

    Armstrong
    Ings
    Redmond
    That formation, would probably play Bednarek instead of Yoshida.

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    I think Ings sits for this. I expect Long to start with Austin in around minute 70. Hopefully Big V and Valery are back. I'm hoping for a point out of this, then beat The Cherries and Hudds. That puts us at 43 pts.

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    With the right attitude we can get a win there. Let's just get the 3 points and put this season to bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Gunn

    Valery
    Vest
    Yoshida
    Bertrand

    Rom
    Hoj
    Lemina

    Armstrong
    Ings
    Redmond
    I would play this with maybe Bednarek in for Yoshida.

    Having said that Yoshida makes some decent runs forward and as weve seen contributes to some real opportunities.

    One has to go in one of these days!

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    Gunn

    Bednarek
    Yoshida
    Vestergaard

    Valery
    Hojbjerg
    Lemina
    Bertrand

    Armstrong

    Redmond
    Ings

    If Vestergaard isn't fit then play Bertrand in his position and bring Targett in.

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    Be amazed if Ings starts this with Bournemouth to come on Saturday.

    Long will start I think.

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    With Valery and Vestergaard sounding unlikely to make it, I'd go with:

    Gunn

    Ramsey
    Bednarek
    Yoshi
    Bertrand

    Hoj
    Romeu
    Lemina

    Redmond
    Armstrong
    Long

    Save JWP and Ings for Bournemouth. Lemina and Armstrong did enough 2nd half on Saturday to warrant a start here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Be amazed if Ings starts this with Bournemouth to come on Saturday.

    Long will start I think.
    Good point, I forgot he was fragile. Yeah, start Long.

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    We'll need both muscle and tenacity for this one. They really are a very physical side. However, they can be beaten and I sincerely hope Mike Dean doesn't play as their twelf man. So many times we have been let down by bad/favourite decisions. I'll accept a draw but a win would make me happy.

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