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    Default Saints v Spurs NYD - Build Up & Match Thread

    Unless my Mince Pies have failed me suppose we may as well get this next one stoked up !

    Probably the easier of the Festive 4 - as they can be a bit flakey. Pepper Gazzaniga with hard shots and make sure our front line is ready to pounce on the spillages because we all know get him rattled and he gets all fingers and thumbs.

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    Very winnable, spurs are not great at moment

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    Spurs at up n down. Difficult to predict this one

    Could easily be 1-1 or 0-4. Depends which Spurs side shows up.

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    Well we know Kane will score whatever.
    Entertaining 2-2 draw

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    McCarthy
    Cedric
    Stephens
    Bednarek
    Bertrand
    Armstrong
    JWP
    Hojbjerg
    Djenepo
    Obafemi
    Ings

    Gunn
    Yoshida
    Vestergaard
    Romeu
    Boufal
    Redmond
    Adams / Long

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    If we play like we did against Chelsea then no reason why we can't win this.

    I think we might just narrowly lose this one.

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    They are defensively frail, but of course Ali, Erikson and Kane are all big threats.

    We need to get at them and put them under pressure as they seem a bit soft, especially away from home, almost Arsenal esque.

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    Like the idea of Djenepo taking on Aurier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanRG View Post
    Like the idea of Djenepo taking on Aurier.
    Not Boufal as he will want to do it twice every time.
    IMHO Boufal slows the game down while Armstrong speeds it up.

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    Id go with....

    McCarthy

    Cedric
    Stephens
    Bed
    Bertrand

    Hoj
    JwP

    Armstrong
    Djenepo

    Redmond
    Ings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    I’d go with....

    McCarthy

    Cedric
    Stephens
    Bed
    Bertrand

    Hoj
    JwP

    Armstrong
    Djenepo

    Redmond
    Ings
    Cannot argue with that.

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    McCarthy
    Cedric Stephens Bednarek Bertrand
    Hojbjerg JwP
    Armstrong Djenepo
    Ings Obafemi

    Adams/Redmond in for Obafemi and Djenepo if they're not fully fit

    Adams, Boufal, Redmond decent options off the bench.

    Got a good chance with Gazziniga in goal and Son suspended.

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    Looking at it from their perspective I bet they have been looking at this fixture as an easy one after 4 days rest and recuperation. We need to score the first goal to get a result, if they score first, knock the confidence and we start chasing they will pick us off - unfortunately I cant see lightning striking twice.

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    Armstrong needs to start. 0

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    Not a game for two strikers or we'll get overrun.

    Armstrong absolutely has to play, whether right mid or in a 3.

    I'd say Armstrong and Djenepo in for Boufal and Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    Not a game for two strikers or we'll get overrun.

    Armstrong absolutely has to play, whether right mid or in a 3.

    I'd say Armstrong and Djenepo in for Boufal and Adams.
    Ings seems to play much, much better when playing alongside someone and Spurs weakness is their defence.

    I would keep two forwards, whether thats Adams or Redmond, and add Armstrong for Boufal as he can drop in a bit when needed.

    Then either Redmond (if Adams or Obafemi starts) or Djenepo on the other side.

    Armstrong good as he gives the option to change towards a 4-3-3 without making a sub if we need to strengthen central midfield.

    Spurs virtually play 4-4-2 anyway as Alli plays so high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    Ings seems to play much, much better when playing alongside someone and Spurs weakness is their defence.

    I would keep two forwards, whether thats Adams or Redmond, and add Armstrong for Boufal as he can drop in a bit when needed.

    Then either Redmond (if Adams or Obafemi starts) or Djenepo on the other side.

    Armstrong good as he gives the option to change towards a 4-3-3 without making a sub if we need to strengthen central midfield.

    Spurs virtually play 4-4-2 anyway as Alli plays so high.
    Like I said in the OP we need to work Gazzaniga rifling real stingers at him that he WILL fumble and players like Ings will be on like a Piranha spotting a gram of raw liver -
    There is nothing wrong being set up like we have been of late, the big threat of being caught short at the back, Son, is suspended, Prowsey can pull Delle Allis tail. Spurs still have the DNA of Poch and as my mate who’s primary income is betting says “Spurs are biblically overated” we seem to have turned a corners since we last played them and should have won.

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    Is Gazzaniga definitely still going to be in? I thought Lloris was due back soon, we had a bit of luck home to Spurs last season but can't see it this time, 1-2 defeat similar to away game.
    Kane will score 100%.

    West Ham v Bournemouth will be interesting , could do with that being a draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatlesaint View Post
    Well we know Kane will score whatever.
    Entertaining 2-2 draw
    Yes, he'll get at least one. You can bet your house on it. Glasgow, take note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Munster View Post
    Yes, he'll get at least one. You can bet your house on it. Glasgow, take note.
    Im going to stick my neck out and say Kane won’t get one this NYD fixture.


    He’d get two!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilchards View Post
    Im going to stick my neck out and say Kane won’t get one this NYD fixture.


    He’d get two!
    Perhaps we should start practising stumbling in the box too. We may even be awarded a penalty.

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    I want to be bold a predict a 2-1 or a 1-0 victory, but I just think we’ll lose 1-0 but somewhat valiantly as per i.e. we’ll test Gazzaniga a fair few times.

    So yeah, prediction: Spurs to grind out a 1-0 victory, Alli to score- but the performance won’t be as bad as WHU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nta786 View Post
    I want to be bold a predict a 2-1 or a 1-0 victory, but I just think we’ll lose 1-0 but somewhat valiantly as per i.e. we’ll test Gazzaniga a fair few times.

    So yeah, prediction: Spurs to grind out a 1-0 victory, Alli to score- but the performance won’t be as bad as WHU.
    I would think if we test Gazza a few times we will score at least once.

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    Mike Dean !!!! (not my favourite Ref)

    Sent off Danso this season v United (imo correct decision)

    VAR Ref who sent off Ryan after Leicester had scored
    BBC pundit Garth Crooks has laid into Dean, telling BBC Sport he strongly disagreed, and that he instigated Southampton's miserable night. "I thought at the time the sending-off Ryan Bertrand was a harsh decision but when I discovered Mike 'clever clogs' Dean was behind VAR in the Southampton versus Leicester fixture I wasn't surprised.
    "There wasn't one pundit in the BBC Match of the Day studio or anyone on the pitch at St Mary's who would have sent Bertrand off for the challenge on Perez. And why? Because they recognised and understood the conditions.

    Two seasons ago he was Ref for the Chelsea home game when he failed to see Alonso tackle through the back of Long's calf when he had a clear view and Alonso then made 2 goals as they came from 2 down to win 3-2 in the last 15 mins.

    The season before that he was the Ref who sent off Redmond for a pull 10 yards outside the box AND also gave the Penalty when the Spurs player fell in the box. They went on to win 4-1.

    He was also the Ref who was seen "punching the air" when Spurs scored
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StRVqK7xgw4


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    Think big team mentality will get the better of the officials and so it will be an uphill battle getting anything from this game despite Spurs having a little dip in form. Would love a similar result to Chelsea, but think it will end 1-3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Spurs at up n down. Difficult to predict this one

    Could easily be 1-1 or 0-4. Depends which Spurs side shows up.
    Also depends upon which Saints side turns up. It'll be 1-1 in my view although Stephens willingness to keep an eye on Kane for 90 mins may be the key

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    We beat them here last season although luck played its part. We are better and meaner this season so no reason to fear the big club hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman View Post
    We beat them here last season although luck played its part. We are better and meaner this season so no reason to fear the big club hype.
    Did it? How?

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    As I recall Spurs missed a lot of chances in the first half, we were lucky to go in only 0-1 down

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    That isn't luck, that is incompetence on the part of Spurs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    That isn't luck, that is incompetence on the part of Spurs
    I actually think our prayers were answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    That isn't luck, that is incompetence on the part of Spurs
    We were lucky they were incompetent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    That isn't luck, that is incompetence on the part of Spurs
    Bit like us in the away game against them when they had 10 players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGTL View Post
    I actually think our prayers were answered.
    Agreed. A bit of divine intervention for sure.

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    I think I’d like to see this
    McCarthy

    Cedric. Stephens bed. Bertrand

    Jwp. Hojbjerg

    Armstrong

    Djenepo Boufal

    Ings

    Bit hesitant to move away from the 442 but I think this formation kinda helps fit all our best players into the starting 11 Armstrong can play most advanced of the mf and gives chance to get forward and create when in possession.. boufal and djenepo can be tricky and creative and both give more then redders.

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    Any tickets spare? After 1 or 2 if possible. Not paying 50 to the club.

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    Wouldn't mind seeing Valery come in for this one if he has recovered from sickness. Spurs have generally been playing Vertonghan at left back since Mourinho came in and he doesnt really get forward like most fullbacks do. That could open up alot of space for Valery to fly forward into, who I trust to do a better job of that than Cedric.

    Would also only play 1 of Redmond, Djenepo or Boufal. The spurs defense struggles with quick passes and movement (see chelsea and Noriwch templates), but between Vertonghan, Alderweirald and Sanchez can time tackles and jockey players. All 3 of our attacking flair players like to hold onto the ball and run at defenders, but not sure if this is the right game for that sort of play. We need quick incisive passes and movement to leave them on their ass. I think Armstrong is absolutely key in this game.

    Something like

    McCarthy

    Valery Stephens Bed Bertrand
    JWP Hoj
    Armstrong
    Long Ings Djenepo

    If Long isn't fit then play adams. Love the idea of Djenepo on Aurier. Aurier is utter turd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sydney_saint View Post
    Wouldn't mind seeing Valery come in for this one if he has recovered from sickness. Spurs have generally been playing Vertonghan at left back since Mourinho came in and he doesnt really get forward like most fullbacks do. That could open up alot of space for Valery to fly forward into, who I trust to do a better job of that than Cedric.

    Would also only play 1 of Redmond, Djenepo or Boufal. The spurs defense struggles with quick passes and movement (see chelsea and Noriwch templates), but between Vertonghan, Alderweirald and Sanchez can time tackles and jockey players. All 3 of our attacking flair players like to hold onto the ball and run at defenders, but not sure if this is the right game for that sort of play. We need quick incisive passes and movement to leave them on their ass. I think Armstrong is absolutely key in this game.

    Something like

    McCarthy

    Valery Stephens Bed Bertrand
    JWP Hoj
    Armstrong
    Long Ings Djenepo

    If Long isn't fit then play adams. Love the idea of Djenepo on Aurier. Aurier is utter turd.
    I don't really rate Cedric but the best thing for our defence has been a settled back 4, finally. Think we need to stick with it for now. If we sign a right back fine, but Valery has had dodgy spells and I don't think we should be relying on him yet.

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    Valery and Obafemi out, Long a possible, all others fit and raring to go !
    (says Ralph in his pre-match interview)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurosaint View Post
    Valery and Obafemi out, Long a possible, all others fit and raring to go !
    (says Ralph in his pre-match interview)
    Obafemi really is made of glass isn’t he

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    Quote Originally Posted by beatlesaint View Post
    Obafemi really is made of glass isn’t he
    Obafemi has been ill rather than injured

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Did it? How?
    They should have been three or four up at HT

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    Kane has scored in his last 6 games against us and has more goals on New Year's day than anyone else, so it's pretty inevitable he will score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajjuk View Post
    Kane has scored in his last 6 games against us and has more goals on New Year's day than anyone else, so it's pretty inevitable he will score.
    At least Son is banned from scoring against us.

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    Yes Kane and Alli's recent records against us are worryingly impressive. Its been a better than expected Christmas period, just think we might run out of steam today. Still, we were dead and buried 6 weeks ago, and will also now have played Spurs and Chelsea twice.

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    They will hammer us im afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie May View Post
    They will hammer us im afraid.
    Shall we tell the players not to turn up then?
    Anything is possible in a game of football so have some hope Maggie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie May View Post
    They will hammer us im afraid.
    Possibly but maybe not. We drew with Chelsea last time out and put in a great performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Tony View Post
    Yes Kane and Alli's recent records against us are worryingly impressive. Its been a better than expected Christmas period, just think we might run out of steam today. Still, we were dead and buried 6 weeks ago, and will also now have played Spurs and Chelsea twice.

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    Dead and buried. Said who?
    Why do people write us off a third of the season, they just end up looking looking like right tit s afterwards

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    Possibly but maybe not. We drew with Chelsea last time out and put in a great performance.
    Had good new year's eve? :-) We drew with Palace, and beat Chelsea at their place prior to that

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