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I'd still keep the same team, no need to change it. Ralph didn't even change it with any subs until 86, so it shows how well it was working.

Theo on the bench as you said, probably in place of the young lad.

Villa have started the season strongly, but if we get in their face like we do to everyone, they won't have it as easy. Frustrate Barkley and Grealish.

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14 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Did you know, this game will mark one week since the first anniversary of the 9-0 game!!
 

Anyway, same team unchanged for me, obviously Theo back on the bench.

Blimey was that a year ago! I really had no idea..................I mean nobody sent me a card or owt...........well that stayed under the radar.

 

Yup agreed same team.

Its a PPV 12pm kick off on Sky Box office Sunday.

(without wishing to get ahead of ourselves, I note that our next game at home v Newcastle is Friday 6th Nov 8pm on Sky Sports Main Event - hope the IPL game will be over by then).

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8 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Not even Theo (or someone else) for Redmond?

Redmond was alright yesterday, he shouldn't have been MOTM, but he still carried the ball well for us and dragged their defenders into other positions.

He wasn't as bad as many are making out.

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7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Redmond was alright yesterday, he shouldn't have been MOTM, but he still carried the ball well for us and dragged their defenders into other positions.

He wasn't as bad as many are making out.

Basically how I saw it. Given how we performed as a team, I don't see any need to drop him. Theo I'd be more inclined to try through the middle for Ings/Adams late on.

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Re Redmond, I'm not a hater by any means. I thought he was very poor in the first half , OK in the second. I looked at him yesterday and thought the premier league / Saints style has become too fast for him, reference his speed of thought, instant movement and decision making. I'd like him to come back to form, but I think he could do this by building into it from the bench. 

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Redmond isn't playing his best football atm, but it's nice for us to have other options.  He's also a decent player for us, and offfers the transition from defence to attack, and Hasenhuttl claarly sees him as a very important cog in the system.

I don't expect him to be dropped / rested.

Mccarthy; KWP Vest Bednarek Bertrand; Romeu JWP; Armstrong Ings Adams Redmond. 

Walcott Diallo and possibly Djenepo as options off the bench.

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It would be good to see Theo back in the team next week.  Although he was only in the side against Chelsea because Armstrong wasn't available, his class and experience shone through.  The problem is who to leave out to accommodate him.  Not a bad problem to have. Despite Che having scored a couple of goals, neither strike was entirely convincing, so I wonder if he might be the one to make way, with Theo or Armstrong moving to partner Ings.  

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Redmond has always been a player to divide opinion...I’ve ranged from cold to slightly warm. But he is not of the same calibre as Theo by some stretch in most departments even if he is younger, so would much prefer to see Theo start and Redmond to come on later against tired legs. We should be good for a result in this game, but this is Saints so we’ll likely hash it up. Would like to see a confident 2-0.

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1 hour ago, Toussaint said:

Not even Theo (or someone else) for Redmond?

Nope - Theo (albeit only one game) didn’t do enough defensively for me. The way we play relies on the wingers doing the hard work as well. Redmond does this time after time.

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1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Nope - Theo (albeit only one game) didn’t do enough defensively for me. The way we play relies on the wingers doing the hard work as well. Redmond does this time after time.

Yeah after he gives the ball away in dangerous areas like he did so many times yesterday 

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We only change a winning team if there's an injury. Same line-up hopefully. J- and K-WP will probably double up on Grealish, Vest will need to be alert to get rid of all the inevitable free kicks from the left.

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We took 6 points off villa last season,  was a great away day where we were three up before Grealish got one for them.  This was the game that they lost McGinn to injury as well.  They have started well and added some quality this season,  but all of that said I'm backing on our good away form continuing and getting at least a point.  Same team as yesterday with Theo on the bench is what I would be looking at. 

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1 hour ago, Micky said:

We took 6 points off villa last season,  was a great away day where we were three up before Grealish got one for them.  This was the game that they lost McGinn to injury as well.  They have started well and added some quality this season,  but all of that said I'm backing on our good away form continuing and getting at least a point.  Same team as yesterday with Theo on the bench is what I would be looking at. 

Villa are a different team now, a lot more steel at the back. They seem to have grown into a very capable defensive unit and Konsa has turned into a very tidy PL defender IMO.

Add the quality of Barkley, Watkins and Traore into the attacking mix and they are immediately on a whole different level to the last time we played them. It will be very, very tough.

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5 hours ago, Professor said:

It would be good to see Theo back in the team next week.  Although he was only in the side against Chelsea because Armstrong wasn't available, his class and experience shone through.  The problem is who to leave out to accommodate him.  Not a bad problem to have. Despite Che having scored a couple of goals, neither strike was entirely convincing, so I wonder if he might be the one to make way, with Theo or Armstrong moving to partner Ings.  

No way is Adam’s being replaced absolutely laughable one of the first names on the team sheet now 

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6 hours ago, Professor said:

It would be good to see Theo back in the team next week.  Although he was only in the side against Chelsea because Armstrong wasn't available, his class and experience shone through.  The problem is who to leave out to accommodate him.  Not a bad problem to have. Despite Che having scored a couple of goals, neither strike was entirely convincing, so I wonder if he might be the one to make way, with Theo or Armstrong moving to partner Ings.  

That simply won't happen. Theo will be on the bench, and rightly so.

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6 hours ago, Professor said:

It would be good to see Theo back in the team next week.  Although he was only in the side against Chelsea because Armstrong wasn't available, his class and experience shone through.  The problem is who to leave out to accommodate him.  Not a bad problem to have. Despite Che having scored a couple of goals, neither strike was entirely convincing, so I wonder if he might be the one to make way, with Theo or Armstrong moving to partner Ings.  

I’ll have some of what your smoking - pretty certain Ralph will be needing a few tokes too before he gets anywhere near putting the pen through Ches name relegating him to the bench!! 😁

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Just now, Colinjb said:

You wouldn't have him in for Redmond?

I wouldn't.

None of that 11 did anything wrong. Theo came alive in the final part of the game v Chelsea, but was largely ineffective up to then. He'll be a good sub option against Villa.

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When the fixture list came out, I guess quite a few people would have had this down as a six pointer. Just not at this end of the table.

Saints are prob marginal favourites? I’d start with an unchanged team. Theo from the bench if we need him.

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24 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I wouldn't.

None of that 11 did anything wrong. Theo came alive in the final part of the game v Chelsea, but was largely ineffective up to then. He'll be a good sub option against Villa.

Bit harsh, the lad had only joined the club a couple of days beforehand and had very little idea of our patterns of play and the high intensity press. My guess is that he will surprise a lot of people and become a regular starter. Redmond is most at risk of a Walcott takeover as Walcott can score goals.

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1 hour ago, SaintBobby said:

When the fixture list came out, I guess quite a few people would have had this down as a six pointer. Just not at this end of the table.

Saints are prob marginal favourites? I’d start with an unchanged team. Theo from the bench if we need him.

Why, having finished 11th and not lost anyone significant, you’d have thought we were in for a relegation fight in summer, I can’t understand. This is probably an 8th-15th 6 pointer, if there is such a thing.

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17 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Why, having finished 11th and not lost anyone significant, you’d have thought we were in for a relegation fight in summer, I can’t understand. This is probably an 8th-15th 6 pointer, if there is such a thing.

Well, we started the season about 8/1 to be relegated and Villa about 3/1 I think. Even now, Saints are odds on to finish in the bottom half of the table.

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3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Pity Leeds spoiled our party, it would have been nice to have been the first team to beat both these unbeaten teams. If we play as well as we did yesterday we might get our traditional 4-0 scoreline against them.

PEDANT ALERT!

We've never beaten them 4-0.

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Villa generally been a good team for us to play in recent years, think we can have a good go at them again, lets hope there confidence took a big hit losing the other day. 

Keep Grealish quiet and make sure he keeps falling over (which he will inevitably will at the slightest touch) near the halfway line. Like Everton and Rodriguez, everything goes through him.

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11 hours ago, Colinjb said:

You wouldn't have him in for Redmond?

No, although it's fairly close. But Redmond, although he didn't have his best game, knows and is part of Ralph's setup. He has a good understanding with Bertie and contributes more defensively.

But his confidence does seem low and shooting woeful, so when Walcott comes on for him at some point, especially if we're behind, it will be down to Theo to stake a claim.

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I would like to see Theo start, but a good manager, as Ralph is, is very unlikely to make unforced changes on the back of last week's performance. I do think that Redmond's place is under threat though. If Theo comes on and plays a good cameo, then he could soon be starting.

On an unrelated note, I think Diallo is going to be a proper player. He looks like he has everything to be a very good DM

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I'd have Theo starting instead of Armstrong (who still be may be feeling slight Covid after-effects) rather than instead of Redmond

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Instinctively I'd rather keep a winning team and not make any changes, although I agree that Armstrong wasn't his normal self on Sunday. 

However, Matt Target is almost certain to be the Villa left back and while a strong crosser of the ball he certainly lacked pace, something that Walcott could exploit.  Alternatively, Grealish will be playing down our right, so we'll need to give KWP some cover, which Armstrong is better at than Walcott.   It will be interesting to see who Ralph goes with .....

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2 hours ago, suewhistle said:

That was what I was pondering too. I didn't think Armstrong was 100% on Sunday and giving his body a chance might be a wise idea.

He may well be stronger after another week's training.

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8 hours ago, waylander said:

He may well be stronger after another week's training.

Indeed. If he really was as unfit and unwell as some are claiming then surely he would have been subbed long before the 87th minute.

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I think the observations were that he didn't seem at 100%, which would seem reasonable. From just the issue of match fitness I was surprised he lasted so long, but if your body has been fighting an infection it's best not to overdo it. But at least we have options now which is a  far better position to be in.

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51 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

I think the observations were that he didn't seem at 100%, which would seem reasonable. From just the issue of match fitness I was surprised he lasted so long, but if your body has been fighting an infection it's best not to overdo it. But at least we have options now which is a  far better position to be in.

He tested positive but from what I heard, he was pretty much asymptomatic !

He had to quarantine because of the system not because he was in a bad way !

Should be absolutely fine for this coming Sunday !!

 

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Same team, I don't think you can change after a performance like that. Theo just gives us another option if things don't go well.

Play at the same level as Everton and we'll beat them, I don't know why people are saying their defence is good, did you see the Leeds goals, they were good finishes but they let Bamford have so much time to take multiple touches in the box.  Also Liverpool were awful and still managed to score 2.

2 of their other shut outs were against goal shy Sheff Utd and awful Fulham.  Plus a Leicester without Vardy. 

I think Ings and Adams will give them trouble. 

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1 hour ago, tajjuk said:

Same team, I don't think you can change after a performance like that. Theo just gives us another option if things don't go well.

Play at the same level as Everton and we'll beat them, I don't know why people are saying their defence is good, did you see the Leeds goals, they were good finishes but they let Bamford have so much time to take multiple touches in the box.  Also Liverpool were awful and still managed to score 2.

2 of their other shut outs were against goal shy Sheff Utd and awful Fulham.  Plus a Leicester without Vardy. 

I think Ings and Adams will give them trouble. 

Remember also they've got Targett at LB. We know very well what his weaknesses and limitations are, and although I would be reluctant to change a winning team, I think playing Theo on the right would be the best option to exploit them.

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7 hours ago, tajjuk said:

Same team, I don't think you can change after a performance like that. Theo just gives us another option if things don't go well.

Play at the same level as Everton and we'll beat them, I don't know why people are saying their defence is good, did you see the Leeds goals, they were good finishes but they let Bamford have so much time to take multiple touches in the box.  Also Liverpool were awful and still managed to score 2.

2 of their other shut outs were against goal shy Sheff Utd and awful Fulham.  Plus a Leicester without Vardy. 

I think Ings and Adams will give them trouble. 

So why wouldn't they learn from heir mistakes and adjust. We would,

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14 minutes ago, eelpie said:

So why wouldn't they learn from heir mistakes and adjust. We would,

Don't let's start getting too overconfident and complacent again, like we did before the first two matches of the season.

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