JRM Posted 23 December, 2020 Share Posted 23 December, 2020 5 hours ago, LGTL said: Looks like they’ll be no Vestergaard, Ings or Redmond. Plus Romeu, that's the spine of our team and best players out. Fulham have bonus of red card rescinded. Not feeling at all confident, can see it being similar to the 3-2 defeat there a couple of seasons ago. Odds on Fulham win look tempting. Weather warning for high winds, won't be much protection of that coming in off the river, New stand still a construction site. Mitrovic to score. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 23 December, 2020 Share Posted 23 December, 2020 19 minutes ago, LeG said: Think this will be a comfortable win for us. I'm not usually this confident, but have started to shake the old saints mentality. Look at our away form, the organisation of the team, the press, the aggression, the talent in the team. This year we have won a lot of games that we would have bottled in previous seasons. Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle etc. These teams just can't cope with RHs tactics. The players are motivated to get back to winning ways. I have always liked Fulham and hope they stay up, but we should be a few levels above them. Entirely my thoughts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 December, 2020 Share Posted 23 December, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, VectisSaint said: Stephens before Salisu with Bednarek switching to left side, as was the case for most of the post lockdown period last season. Would be surprised if he throws Salisu straight in. In part 2 of the press conference he suggests the Fulham game is the time to see both Diallo and Salisu. From 17:15 Edited 23 December, 2020 by Matthew Le God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 December, 2020 Share Posted 23 December, 2020 12 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: In part 2 of the press conference he suggests the Fulham game is the time to see both Diallo and Salisu. From 17:15 Ralph also says (at 33m 38 secs): "I haven't decided now what I do or who plays in the moment" when talking about Stephens and Salisu as his two Vestergaard replacement options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 December, 2020 Share Posted 23 December, 2020 (edited) Who'd have ever thought, 12 months ago, that we'd be worrying about a) Tier 4 restrictions and no fans at games and B) Vesterguard not being able to play. This year isn't real. Edited 23 December, 2020 by S-Clarke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 1 hour ago, LeG said: Think this will be a comfortable win for us. I'm not usually this confident, but have started to shake the old saints mentality. Look at our away form, the organisation of the team, the press, the aggression, the talent in the team. This year we have won a lot of games that we would have bottled in previous seasons. Burnley, Brighton, Newcastle etc. These teams just can't cope with RHs tactics. The players are motivated to get back to winning ways. I have always liked Fulham and hope they stay up, but we should be a few levels above them. Fulham coped with Liverpool and Klopp's tactics pretty well the other day. I doubt they're having sleepless nights over a weakened Saints. It'll be a tough game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya's Dad Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 do not get the general bad feeling of most about this game at all. fulham have been playing better but are still very average at best. they will be without that cavaliero up front who is a main reason for their recent form. their defender is back which is obviously better than anything else they have but people are talking as if he is sergio ramos. we drew against arsenal and lost 1-0 to city and suddenly people are talking as if we are in some massive slump of form. lighten up its christmas. we have won 5 of the last 6 against them ffs and will turn them over 1-0. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 11 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said: I agree with you. If it doesn't work just switch Theo and Redmond. Isn't Redmond also a doubt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 12 hours ago, JRM said: Plus Romeu, that's the spine of our team and best players out. Fulham have bonus of red card rescinded. Not feeling at all confident, can see it being similar to the 3-2 defeat there a couple of seasons ago. Odds on Fulham win look tempting. Weather warning for high winds, won't be much protection of that coming in off the river, New stand still a construction site. Mitrovic to score. I reckon I'll get on the booze early in anticipation of this prognosis 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 23 minutes ago, jasonb said: I reckon I'll get on the booze early in anticipation of this prognosis 😂 I’m with you on that! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 10 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: In part 2 of the press conference he suggests the Fulham game is the time to see both Diallo and Salisu. From 17:15 I was expressing my own thoughts on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickendippers Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 I think it will be Stephens in for Vestegaard as he is comfortable on the ball - I don't know enough about Salisu but suspect he is more of a Bednarek replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 18 minutes ago, Chickendippers said: I think it will be Stephens in for Vestegaard as he is comfortable on the ball - I don't know enough about Salisu but suspect he is more of a Bednarek replacement? He cant defend though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 Scott Parker won’t be there. Self isolating. Someone in his family. So Gray taking charge. Oh the irony. Sky presenter did t seem to know about how saints commection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 17 hours ago, Suhari said: *cough* Transfer window opens soon...... Was my thought too. Bloody Spurs/Liverpool/Leicester. If selling it had better be for £100m. Crazy otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 4 minutes ago, DT said: Scott Parker won’t be there. Self isolating. Someone in his family. So Gray taking charge. Oh the irony. Sky presenter did t seem to know about how saints commection Bonus for us, I’ve been impressed with Parker, it’s bound to have an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de-Griz Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 No Scott Parker. Stuart Gray in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickendippers Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 1 hour ago, Turkish said: He cant defend though. Well there is that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 So it’s looking like: McC KWP Bednarek Stephens/Salisu Bertrand JWP Diallo Armstrong Djenepo Walcott Adams Ralph will probably go with Stephens. Maybe he’ll blood one of the young strikers and move Walcott back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Turkish said: He cant defend though. Exactly. As important as it is to be able to bring the ball out from the back and play an extravagant pass, I'm sure we'd all prefer to see a centre back who can actually defend competently. Stephens had a purple patch when the league resumed after lockdown in June but before that and whenever he's played this season, he's made basic defensive errors. People who know about football have said some very good things about Salisu - give him the chance to prove it. Edited 24 December, 2020 by Harry_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 I really hope he doesn’t go with Stephens but think he will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: I really hope he doesn’t go with Stephens but think he will Yep, I think so too. Ralph obviously invests a huge amount of faith in his 'automatism' philosophy and Stephens, whilst having been out of favour for a while, is best equipped out of Salisu and himself to slip into said automatisms. In other words, and in that regard, Salisu is very much on square one, whereas Stephens is a bit further up the board. That said, Stephens is possibly more prone to landing on a snake... Edited 24 December, 2020 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 Rick Astley has tipped us to win so that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 1 minute ago, cloggy saint said: Rick Astley has tipped us to win so that's good enough for me. They filmed Lawro predicts this week... https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 47 minutes ago, cloggy saint said: Rick Astley has tipped us to win so that's good enough for me. I didn’t think he’d let us down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 Ralph: "We know the game and we're going to play it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 4 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: Exactly. As important as it is to be able to bring the ball out from the back and play an extravagant pass, I'm sure we'd all prefer to see a centre back who can actually defend competently. Stephens had a purple patch when the league resumed after lockdown in June but before that and whenever he's played this season, he's made basic defensive errors. People who know about football have said some very good things about Salisu - give him the chance to prove it. That’s not true to be honest. Aston Villa away last year around this time was the first game where he looked real quality, and had a pretty solid season from that point onwards. He had a poor start to the season and hasn’t been back in since, which is just football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 Stephens did very well for us at points last season. Seems to be a misconception that the 9-0 was his last real start for us. Remember very well his performance away to Leicester (mocking Vardys celebration too) where he was a rock for us. Said it before, I dont think hes a starter for us, but certainly can do a great job when called upon (could be the case this weekend). However, what would be the point in signing Salisu then? Hes had the extra opportunity to get up to fitness/speed with Ralphs system. He comes with a good reputation and its not as if hes being thrown into the deep end (not a must win game, no fans etc). If Vestergaard is definitely out then I would like to see Salisu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 3 hours ago, trousers said: prone to landing on a snake... Says trousers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 8 hours ago, DT said: Scott Parker won’t be there. Self isolating. Someone in his family. So Gray taking charge. Oh the irony. Sky presenter did t seem to know about how saints commection Not sure it will have much impact, what happened to West ham when Moyes had to miss a few games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 8 hours ago, DT said: Scott Parker won’t be there. Self isolating. Someone in his family. So Gray taking charge. Oh the irony. Sky presenter did t seem to know about how saints commection Stuart Gray managing a team vs Saints is not ironic. Nor is any lyric of this song! 😁😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 1 hour ago, LeG said: #AnnounceSalisiuuuuuuuuuuuuu Surely he gets picked over JS. I've been enjoying Saints since we've eradicated defensive mistakes. Whilst Stephens is capable of really good games (and terrible ones), Salisu has eye watering levels of potential and was looked at by sides like AM, Real and Barca. We took the punt regardless of injuries. Now lets see him in action. Salisiuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Disagree with this. Stephens for me. When did Salisu last play a competitive game of football? I'd like to see him in u23s or play in the Shrewsbury game first. We've already got Diallo coming into the midfield who has hardly featured. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 1 minute ago, JRM said: Disagree with this. Stephens for me. When did Salisu last play a competitive game of football? I'd like to see him in u23s or play in the Shrewsbury game first. We've already got Diallo coming into the midfield who has hardly featured. Stephens has barely played either so that argument falls apart. He also remains a liability... particularly in aerial duels. I think he'll be 4th choice from now on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, LeG said: #AnnounceSalisiuuuuuuuuuuuuu Surely he gets picked over JS. I've been enjoying Saints since we've eradicated defensive mistakes. Whilst Stephens is capable of really good games (and terrible ones), Salisu has eye watering levels of potential and was looked at by sides like AM, Real and Barca. We took the punt regardless of injuries. Now lets see him in action. Salisiuuuuuuuuuuuuuu If there is a match to try out Salisu this is it. A behind closed doors game against an average attack in a match where in reality the result won’t mean much. We know what Stephens can do and although we don’t like it it’s not much. I’d like to see salisu play. Edited 24 December, 2020 by Turkish 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medrurkin Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 Both Diallo and Salisu have been with the club for several months. If they are not ready to play in the first eleven, the club has dropped another blooper or two. As expressed above, behind closed doors against a struggling, inconsistent team, it isn't going to get better than that. Playing them against a team way, way off our standard (currently top half of the PL) is not a valid try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 24 December, 2020 Share Posted 24 December, 2020 Salisu was pocketing top LaLiga attackers last year, I think he will be alright versus Fulham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 On 23/12/2020 at 12:22, JRM said: Plus Romeu, that's the spine of our team and best players out. Fulham have bonus of red card rescinded. Not feeling at all confident, can see it being similar to the 3-2 defeat there a couple of seasons ago. Odds on Fulham win look tempting. Weather warning for high winds, won't be much protection of that coming in off the river, New stand still a construction site. Mitrovic to score. He hasn't scored in the PL since mid-September. So yes, you can bet your house on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 Vestergard is injured how? Knee? Bit fishy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 8 hours ago, ecurnew02 said: Salisu was pocketing top LaLiga attackers last year, I think he will be alright versus Fulham. If Stephens gets ahead of him on Boxing Day then he must be shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 7 hours ago, DT said: Vestergard is injured how? Knee? Bit fishy? Not sure why as he makes every tackle, every header and most of our impressive balls from the back. You would never sell your best defender during mid season plus on the first offer. Maybe next summer someone will bid 70m for him which we will take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 1 hour ago, Pilchards said: Not sure why as he makes every tackle, every header and most of our impressive balls from the back. You would never sell your best defender during mid season plus on the first offer. Maybe next summer someone will bid 70m for him which we will take. He will only have one year left next summer, so I doubt we ll get that. 20-30 mil tops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 McCarthy Walker-Peters Bednarek Salisu Bertrand Ward-Prowse Diallo Walcott Djenepo Adams N’Lundulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 Would be great to see Salisu, but it would be a surprise to see him start in the prem having not played a minute of football for the club at any level. Surely the best path is to ease him in against Shrewsbury. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 36 minutes ago, Avenue_Saint said: McCarthy Walker-Peters Bednarek Salisu Bertrand Ward-Prowse Diallo Walcott Djenepo Adams N’Lundulu I can't see Armstrong being left out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 50 minutes ago, trousers said: I can't see Armstrong being left out? We all know he’s been off the pace, just think he could do with a rest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 16 minutes ago, Avenue_Saint said: We all know he’s been off the pace, just think he could do with a rest? He hasn't played a game for 10 days. That is a pretty decent rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 17 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: He hasn't played a game for 10 days. That is a pretty decent rest. Pah! That’s nothing. I haven’t played a game for nearly forty years so I must be even more rested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Box Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 Surely Stephens has been on the bench recently as full back cover and Salisu for CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 (edited) I'm hoping Jack starts tomorrow. Despite what some say on here, he's very comfortable on the ball - in my opinion along with Jannik our best ball playing centre half. People seem to forget second part of last season, he was immense particularly the Man City home game - Jack was imperious I think Salisu will come on in the second half for some minutes - hopefully with us in a comfortable winning position. Edited 25 December, 2020 by davefizzy14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 25 December, 2020 Share Posted 25 December, 2020 9 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: I'm hoping Jack starts tomorrow. Despite what some say on here, he's very comfortable on the ball - in my opinion along with Jannik our best ball playing centre half. People seem to forget second part of last season, he was immense particularly the Man City home game - Jack was imperious I think Salisu will come on in the second half for some minutes - hopefully with us in a comfortable winning position. He's OK on the ball, but not in a ping it about like Vestergaard type way. I have no idea who I'd prefer to play - having seen nothing of Salisu I don't know how anyone can say that they'd prefer one over the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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