Do we sell Prowse?

[ally_uk]

Theoretically if Newcastle came in with a 75 million bid for Prowse. 

 

A) Do we sell?

B) How do we spend the money who would you sign? Keep it realistic 

[Appy]

No we don’t sell. 

[Toadhall Saint]

C JWP turns down Newcastle 

[Bob76]

No, could not replace.

[skintsaint]

Sell if the 75m is put back into the team with two good 30m players.

[tunit]

Similar to above. Sell if we can get two 30m players who will go straight into the first team. If its going to be for a few 10m gamble players then no

[Saint Garrett]

For £75m? No from me.

[Pamplemousse]

No. He's too important to sell

[Toussaint]

10 minutes ago, tunit said:

Similar to above. Sell if we can get two 30m players who will go straight into the first team. If its going to be for a few 10m gamble players then no

Which is exactly what it would be, so no from me

[Ken Tone]

No. Time we showed we can keep a good player. And he'd be very hard to replace 

[Saint Fan CaM]

Interesting - see I’m not sure he’s worth £75m in terms of his overall game, but he’s worth at least that in terms of Captain continuity and making a statement that clubs like Newcastle can’t rob us of our talisman players (thinking on this point, JWP is the only talisman we’ve got left). On balance it’s a no from me.

[MarkSFC]

I think he worth at least 75m to us but in the market probably 50-60 in reality. But this is a sellers market because of his contract length. I am mixed about him leaving but for 75m+ it might be a good option, if it gets us 2-3 25m ish players. 

[manji]

Definitely not. Don’t think he wants to go and Sports Republic have hit the ground running. Don’t forget they are media based and would reflect badly on them.

it’s just the media shit stirring. They can’t understand why he would stay here. Inevitable click bait.

[once_bitterne]

No, we'd just buy 7 'promising' and 'highly rated' teenagers with 'potential'.

[skintsaint]

6 minutes ago, once_bitterne said:

No, we'd just buy 7 'promising' and 'highly rated' teenagers with 'potential'.

True and you never win anything with kids.

[waylander]

No.

Next question.

[trousers]

I'm in two minds. If we spent the £75m wisely then I'd lean towards 'yes'. 

For those saying an outright 'no', is there a figure above that which would make you reconsider? £85k? £100k? Or is it a 'no' at any price?

[Dorchester Saint]

If it’s for silly money and not to a premier league rival YES!

 

Otherwise NO

[Doctoroncall]

Only if he was wanting to leave. As a team we haven’t got enough quality yet to make this loss be a significant risk. 

[Appy]

8 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm in two minds. If we spent the £75m wisely then I'd lean towards 'yes'. 

For those saying an outright 'no', is there a figure above that which would make you reconsider? £85k? £100k? Or is it a 'no' at any price?

No at any price, we can’t get a player anywhere near as good as him, he’s a game changer for us, he’s the only reason we stayed up last season. 
 

Losses at Leeds and Brighton where he dug us out of holes would’ve put us bang in trouble. 

Edited 24 June, 2022 by Appy

[Saint Garrett]

2 minutes ago, Appy said:

No at any price, we can’t get a player anywhere near as good as him, he’s a game changer for us, he’s the only reason we stayed up last season. 
 

Losses at Leeds and Brighton where we dug us out of holes would’ve put us bang in trouble. 

I think this is the crux of it.  We couldn't afford the players it would take to replace his spot in the team. So if selling him meant we would suddenly go and change the model, then maybe, but that isn't going to happen. We probably aren't going to pay anyone over £70k a week, and we're not going to spend any more than £20m on 1 player.

We're also living in a world when bang average premier league players are going for £35m +

Edited 24 June, 2022 by Saint Garrett

[Lighthouse]

2 minutes ago, Appy said:

No at any price, we can’t get a player anywhere near as good as him, he’s a game changer for us, he’s the only reason we stayed up last season. 
 

Losses at Leeds and Brighton where we dug us out of holes would’ve put us bang in trouble. 

What if we had a £25m striker, midfielder and centre half in those games and won them comfortably, as well as the Watford, Newcastle and Brentford games? That last sentence makes no sense, you’re basically saying what if we sold him and spent zero on any players, which would obviously be daft.

 

I would say yes, definitely, for £75m.

[Kenilworthy]

If we could get £75 million or more I would reluctantly say yes if we thought it would be invested wisely. It is a lot of money for a player that could be a tackle away from being worth nothing and JWP's value is probably at a peak right now. If we don't sell now, and I would love him to stay, then the chances are that as long as we don't go down he will finish his career with us.

[Dellman]

NO. Unlike others before him  he hasn't asked to leave or shown the slightest sign of wanting to leave or being unhappy. If we deliberately choose to get rid of our best we are done for and we may as well play Monopoly

[Matthew Le God]

Keep Prowse, sell Ward

[Bad Wolf]

Add an extra £10 Million to that and I'd be giving it serious consideration. Everybody has a price.

[Dorchester Saint]

I don’t think he’s worth anywhere near 75 million anyway, ridiculous price when you think Mane has gone to Bayern for 35 million and Haaland to City for £51 million….bonkers media led nonsense. 

[Toadhall Saint]

25 minutes ago, trousers said:

I'm in two minds. If we spent the £75m wisely then I'd lean towards 'yes'. 

For those saying an outright 'no', is there a figure above that which would make you reconsider? £85k? £100k? Or is it a 'no' at any price?

Whatever Rice is worth (but definitely not £100k 😉)

[Saint Keef]

Wet Spam say that Rice is worth £150m. Rice is a very good player granted, and to them, that is what he's worth. But he's not twice as good as JWP. I think we should have stuck £100m tag on JWP. Imagine if the Spammers sell Rice for £150m and replace him for £75m with JWP, how would that make us look? They've then got JWP and another £75m to spend on other players as well, so it's a BIG NO for me.

[AlexLaw76]

Absolutely not 

[skintsaint]

6 minutes ago, Saint Keef said:

Imagine if the Spammers sell Rice for £150m

Righto 😄

[Lee On Solent Saint]

His value to us is worth at least 75m, I wouldn't consider anything less than that figure.

[S-Clarke]

This has come up a few times in recent months, but as of this window - no, no matter what the bid is.

Once we've sorted the rest of the team out, the likes of Bazunu, AKP etc have matured as regulars and there's value in other individuals like Salisu/Tino next summer, then we could maybe absorb his loss a little easier. At the moment though, with a squad that already needs substantial work, selling JWP would just create too much to do and leave us with a load of unproven players.

[Bad Wolf]

4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

This has come up a few times in recent months, but as of this window - no, no matter what the bid is.

Once we've sorted the rest of the team out, the likes of Bazunu, AKP etc have matured as regulars and there's value in other individuals like Salisu/Tino next summer, then we could maybe absorb his loss a little easier. At the moment though, with a squad that already needs substantial work, selling JWP would just create too much to do and leave us with a load of unproven players.

So someone offers to buy him for £100 Billion and you turn them down? Obviously that's an extreme example and not realistic however I do feel think that's the issue with this "not at any price" attitude. Everybody has a price and sometimes, it's too good to turn down.

[S-Clarke]

23 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

So someone offers to buy him for £100 Billion and you turn them down? Obviously that's an extreme example and not realistic however I do feel think that's the issue with this "not at any price" attitude. Everybody has a price and sometimes, it's too good to turn down.

No one is going to offer that! But even £100m I'd say no. Selling JWP would equal relegation with the current state of the squad, keep JWP around with the new players we're buying this year, let them mature and we can absorb his loss a bit better next year if all goes well. At the moment, you're taking out 1 of our 2 PL quality players and that would be curtains in my opinion.

Edited 24 June, 2022 by S-Clarke

[OldNick]

Yes, as he is not worth 75m

[Lighthouse]

9 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

No one is going to offer that! But even £100m I'd say no. Selling JWP would equal relegation with the current state of the squad, keep JWP around with the new players we're buying this year, let them mature and we can absorb his loss a bit better next year if all goes well. At the moment, you're taking out 1 of our 2 PL quality players and that would be curtains in my opinion.

16 other clubs have managed to avoid relegation without JWP, I don’t see why we couldn’t if we invested £100m even semi-competently and that’s on top of the money we are able to spend anyway.

[beatlesaint]

I wouldn’t trust Ralph with £75 million, so no.

[Charlie Wayman]

I would sell him now while he still has market value and insist on cash so that we can buy a decent £25m attacking midfielder and proven £25m striker. I doubt we will get more than £50m for him. It's a win-win really, we get much needed reinforcements, JWP gets a bigger pay check and a new challenge for trophies which he ain't gonna get stuck down here.

Realistically though I doubt he has the bottle to leave. He is a home lad by nature and will find it too hard emotionally to leave an area he has known all his life to settle in some outback third world county like Merseyside or Tyneside

Edited 24 June, 2022 by Charlie Wayman

[Charlie Wayman]

1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Whatever Rice is worth

About £1.80 for 2kgs in Sainsbury's

[cynicalsaint]

2 hours ago, trousers said:

I'm in two minds. If we spent the £75m wisely then I'd lean towards 'yes'. 

For those saying an outright 'no', is there a figure above that which would make you reconsider? £85k? £100k? Or is it a 'no' at any price?

85k to 100k seems a bit cheap to me. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Nope. Only unless he wanted to leave and it was affecting his performances.

[Bad Wolf]

1 hour ago, OldNick said:

Yes, as he is not worth 75m

He is if someone wants to pay it

[Bad Wolf]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

No one is going to offer that! But even £100m I'd say no. Selling JWP would equal relegation with the current state of the squad, keep JWP around with the new players we're buying this year, let them mature and we can absorb his loss a bit better next year if all goes well. At the moment, you're taking out 1 of our 2 PL quality players and that would be curtains in my opinion.

I know they're not. Like I said, extreme example I know. Hmmm 100 million is a lot of money! I'd probably take it but I can certainly see the argument against.

[Chez]

Yes, of course, a club our size can't turn down that kind of fee, but no one is spending that. 

I wonder how we'd spend it. It's not easy spending money well. No one knows that better than us. 

 

 

[Chez]

people saying `no', have you considered that he may have had is best season last year and might not reach the same heights, probably will never score as many goals again, perhaps even gets injured....he's overdue one...

OK, so thats the glass half empty scenario, but isn't selling layers at their highest price what we need to do to thrive? 

 

[waylander]

4 hours ago, Dorchester Saint said:

I don’t think he’s worth anywhere near 75 million anyway, ridiculous price when you think Mane has gone to Bayern for 35 million and Haaland to City for £51 million….bonkers media led nonsense. 

And Grealish went for....?

[Dorchester Saint]

2 minutes ago, waylander said:

And Grealish went for....?

A ridiculous price, but he’s a better player than JWP in my opinion. 

[Convict Colony]

yes

[East Kent Saint]

Not sure JWP would shine at a top 6 club , may be better , football wise , to stick with Saints as per MLT .