Brentford 3-0 Saints - Match Thread

[AlexLaw76]

With the greatest respect, that tosser of a manager will likely have us lose this game

what is the bet we go toe-to-toe with them and play 3 at the back, or a line up with Lyanco or Salisu at fullback.

Jones out 

 

[supergoose]

I like your positivity.

[StrangelyBrown]

With the greatest of respect with Janny B back to save the day what can possibly go wrong? God willing we'll get a result - we'd be foolish to solely rely on players being able to understand tactics or on picking the right team.

Edited 1 February, 2023 by StrangelyBrown

[Pamplemousse]

I have absolutely zero expectation that we will get anything from this game.

Our best hope is the 2 week break has stunted their momentum somewhat and they have a major off day.

[Pilchards]

Pick the right team and go for it.

I would rather go down trying than sitting back and hoping the opposition have an off day.

The team? well that’s why we pay Jones mega money so stop watching previous videos and use common sense by putting all players in the correction position.

I personally would like to put Lavia as a defensive midfielder with Perrard LB and Breen RB. 

[LGTL]

No doubt a good day out ruined thanks to that dwarf. 

[Viking Saint]

If the team were set up with four at the back and players being played in their actual positions, I'd be hopeful of getting something out of this game and 3 points isn't unrealistic.

Unfortunately, with the clueless prick we've got in charge, we can expect 5 at the back, Ely and Walcott starting in a midfield that gets overrun, a flurry of changes being made after they've scored twice and zero points. 

Jones is so obviously and palpably out of his depth that it's embarrassing. Get him out now and give us a cat in hell's chance of staying up.

Edited 1 February, 2023 by Viking Saint

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Scene of one of the worst displays under Ralph. Couldn't happen again, surely?

[kwsaint]

We now have a really bloated squad and a manager who is out of his depth.  Can't see him being able to get this lot organised to stay up in the same way that Eddie Howe managed at Newcastle last season.  Think that we are going down and the summer is going to be carnage as lots of players then leave.

[Osvaldorama]

He will play 5 at the back to try and match their formation. 
 

It won’t work.
 

At around 60 minutes, at 2-0 down we will change to a back 4 and look really good. But as usual it will be too late. 

[Disco Stu]

Any update on the KWP injury?

[Toussaint]

Think we'll do OK, Jones in.

[Nolan]

My word all the perpetual negative whingers are out in force this morning.

60 million spent with some exciting statistics to back them up.

7 of our losses this season have been by one goal, 5 of those as we couldn't score one goal. It is true that it is fine margins.

It wont take much to change those into wins. We can start on Saturday.

 

 

 

[S-Clarke]

51 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

Any update on the KWP injury?

Tight hammy, taken off as a precuation. 

[S-Clarke]

43 minutes ago, Nolan said:

My word all the perpetual negative whingers are out in force this morning.

60 million spent with some exciting statistics to back them up.

7 of our losses this season have been by one goal, 5 of those as we couldn't score one goal. It is true that it is fine margins.

It wont take much to change those into wins. We can start on Saturday.

 

 

 

The new players won't be in the mix though I wouldn't have thought, they're both still waiting for Visa's and haven't even trained with us yet. So I expect much of the same against Brentford with Elyounoussi putting in a diasterclass of how not to be an attacking midfielder.

[Saint86]

With the greatest respect to Jones, i cannot abide managers that throw cup semi finals. Absolutely unacceptable - Will take while to forgive him for that, even if i can see what he's trying to do generally with the side.

But regardless, I suspect we'll comfortably lose this next game and probably see a limited debut from both the new signings.

Edited 1 February, 2023 by Saint86

[Saint86]

1 hour ago, Disco Stu said:

Any update on the KWP injury?

Precautionary substitution, tight hamstring. Wouldn't be surprised if he is rested on the weekend though.

[InvictaSaint]

If anybody has a spare ticket (I know - glutton for punishment), please consider me first. 07515008001. Cheers. 

[a1ex2001]

3-5-2 whith lyanco at centre half and the new big man upfront trying to pull the ball down from the heavens every two minutes, Jones finally has his target man so expect full on hoof ball, we will go two down then revert to a back four and play the ball sensibly and suddenly look much better rinse and repeat until Jones is sacked of someone beats some sense into him (note I'm not actually advocating someone beats him it's a figure of speach!) as clearly he is incapable of learning from direct experience!

Edited 1 February, 2023 by a1ex2001

[LGTL]

3 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

The new players won't be in the mix though I wouldn't have thought, they're both still waiting for Visa's and haven't even trained with us yet. So I expect much of the same against Brentford with Elyounoussi putting in a diasterclass of how not to be an attacking midfielder.

Unless, of course, you're NJ mate and you walk straight into the team for the biggest match of your life and look like a rabbit caught in headlights. 

[Appy]

3 hours ago, Saint86 said:

Precautionary substitution, tight hamstring. Wouldn't be surprised if he is rested on the weekend though.

Any excuse to play another centre back.

[saintwbu]

4 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

The new players won't be in the mix though I wouldn't have thought, they're both still waiting for Visa's and haven't even trained with us yet. So I expect much of the same against Brentford with Elyounoussi putting in a diasterclass of how not to be an attacking midfielder.

Seems a bit weird to single out Elyounoussi when he didn’t play a minute in that shit show last night, and actually most of his recent game time has been in periods when we’ve looked like we might have a chance of scoring. 

[Saint86]

3 minutes ago, Appy said:

Any excuse to play another centre back.

Imagine we'll see Bree and Perraud - which i don't have a huge issue with. It would be not playing DCC and Salisu to complete a back 4 that will make me mad.

[Bad Wolf]

8 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

With the greatest respect, that tosser of a manager will likely have us lose this game

what is the bet we go toe-to-toe with them and play 3 at the back, or a line up with Lyanco or Salisu at fullback.

Jones out 

 

Looking forward to being relegated to get rid of the likes of you when you switch to Chelsea or something

[AlexLaw76]

26 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Looking forward to being relegated to get rid of the likes of you when you switch to Chelsea or something

#Bantz

[mickn]

8 hours ago, Pilchards said:

Pick the right team and go for it.

I would rather go down trying than sitting back and hoping the opposition have an off day.

The team? well that’s why we pay Jones mega money so stop watching previous videos and use common sense by putting all players in the correction position.

I personally would like to put Lavia as a defensive midfielder with Perrard LB and Breen RB. 

It's rumoured that one of my neighbours pays a young lady for this

[fanimal]

Has to be Baz behind Bree DCC Saly and superstar striker RP

with JWP and Lavia in the middle 

Dozy and AA wide

Che and Mara up top

too tough a game for all the new lightweight signings

[Ed Rooney]

9 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

With the greatest respect, that tosser of a manager will likely have us lose this game

what is the bet we go toe-to-toe with them and play 3 at the back, or a line up with Lyanco or Salisu at fullback.

Jones out 

 

[Saint Matty 76]

Currently got absolutely no expectation but I'm sure I'll talk myself into it by Saturday, where I'll be in Norway at the time so I can at least distract myself from watching (probably won't, but). 

Bazunu
Bree - DCC - Salisu - Perraud
JWP - Lavia - Alcaraz
Edozie - Che - Orsic

Subs: Caballero, Lyanco, Bednarek, Diallo, Aribo, Elyounoussi, Sulemana, Onuachu, Mara

Salisu was absolutely garbage yesterday so I wouldn't (can't believe I'm saying this) be opposed to Bednarek, the issue with that is you will not see a slower CB pairing in the history of the Premier League. Lineup is also obviously assuming that KWP is missing this one.

The wing options are a little bit up in the air at the moment... wouldn't ever be surprised to see him start Elyounoussi and you can't really justify a spot for Orsic based on what he's done so far, it's just a hope that he can be better than he's shown, whereas we already know Moi's level. Could see any of Edozie, Orsic, Armstrong, Elyounoussi, Aribo or Sulemana (if ready) taking the two spots, providing he isn't a twat and reverts to the formation we tend to look okay in.

Edited 1 February, 2023 by Saint Matty 76

[Dark Munster]

10 hours ago, Nolan said:

My word all the perpetual negative whingers are out in force this morning.

60 million spent with some exciting statistics to back them up.

7 of our losses this season have been by one goal, 5 of those as we couldn't score one goal. It is true that it is fine margins.

It wont take much to change those into wins. We can start on Saturday.

 

 

 

True that. Replace the clueless muppet of a manager with someone competent. 

[polegategavin]

6 minutes ago, Dark Munster said:

True that. Replace the clueless muppet of a manager with someone competent. 

I’m staggered by the negativity towards our own team on this forum.

we have a new manager who will be here until at least the end of the season, why don’t we just support (him and) the team and give them as much energy to go out and do what we all want them to do, win as many games as possible and not be relegated.

[FarehamSaintJames]

14 hours ago, supergoose said:

I like your positivity.

He’s fucking miserable. But ironically he’s probably right…

Brentford will be really tough.
If we don’t take six or seven points this month then I think that will be curtains for us. 
January and February were out more “winnable” games. 🤷🏻‍♂️

BUT, we need to take the game to Brentford, and actually I think we will, it’ll be very tight! 

As said above, fine margins make a difference, someone to create and finish we have brought in, let’s take it to them! 💪🏻

Edited 1 February, 2023 by FarehamSaintJames

[ErwinK1961]

Bazunu, Perraud, Salisu, ABK, Bree, Lavia, JWP, Alcaraz, Edozie, Adams, Orsic

What it will probably be;

Bazunu, Bree, Lyanco, Bednarek, Salisu, Diallo, JWP, Alcaraz, Moi (to slot in at LWB as required) Armstrong, Adams

[Harry_SFC]

Bazunu; Bree, DCC, Salisu, Perraud; Lavia, Alcaraz, JWP; Edozie, Orsic, Adams.

Could easily switch ABK, Diallo or Mara into that line up.

Just no Armstrong or Lyanco please. 

[Saint Garrett]

Maybe he needs reminding…”Nathan Jones, your football is shit”

He’ll probably pick 5 at the back, and probably play Lyanco and Bednarek. 

I’d go:

Bazunu; KWP DCC Salisu Perraud; JWP Lavia Alcaraz; Edozie Adams Sulemena

Bree RB if KWP out. 

Edited 1 February, 2023 by Saint Garrett

[Baird of the land]

Can’t see kwp being right, no point risking a major hamstring injury. Haven’t seen enough of Bree defensively so i’d Opt for lyanco at rb and versatility and extra aerial ability another cb gives us. Equally while I hope we get to see both new signings it is probably pushing it to throw them in from the start. Going to be a tough game against a good team, hopefully we can sneak a draw.

Bazanu, Lyanco, DCC, Salisu, perraud, Diallo, Lavia, jwp, edozie, orsic, Adams.

[Charlie Wayman]

12 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

The new players won't be in the mix though I wouldn't have thought, they're both still waiting for Visa's and haven't even trained with us yet. So I expect much of the same against Brentford with Elyounoussi putting in a diasterclass of how not to be an attacking midfielder.

You’ll blame Ely even if he isn’t picked

[SaintZamboni]

I’d hope to see something like this:

                       Baz

Bree/KWP  DCC  Salisu   Perraud/KWP

               Lavia    Alcaraz

    Edozie         JWP            Orsic    
                     Adams/Mara

 

I really can’t be sure what’s coming though. Can’t see Lyanco being dropped even though I think he should. Suspect Armstrong will start for his pace and work rate which I don’t mind. Alcaraz or Diallo? I don’t really mind but Alcaraz is clearly the better footballer so let’s play him and get him used to the league. Adams just scored so let’s hope he finds a little run of goals and we can always whip big Paul on later.

     

[SaintsFan86]

Bazunu;

Bree(KWP Injured) DCC, Salisu, Perraud;

Lavia, Alcaraz;

Edozie, JWP, Orsic;

Adams.

Subs; Willy, AbK, Lyanco, Diallo, Ely, Aribo, Sulemana, Arma, Onuachu.

[sledger]

brentford will try to kick us off the park,go toe to toe and we can get a result

[woodsaint1]

Cant be worse than the disgrace of a performance we put in at Brentford last season.....can it?

[SaintJackoInHurworth]

If KWP is fit I would consider going with something a little bit different, assuming neither of our new players are ready to start just yet:

                         Bazunu

Bree           ABK           DCC         Perraud

                          Lavia

               JWP              Alcaraz

KWP                                              Edozie

                    Adams/Mara

If KWP is not fit and assuming S. Armstrong is also not fit yet, I would move Edozie across and play one of Djenepo, Armstrong or Elyounoussi as the other winger (but S.Armstrong if he is fit!). I have no real preference between them: Djenepo has more flair to go past players but zero ability to make the right decisions or to make a telling pass, Elyounoussi has limited flair or ability but does work hard and similar can be said for Armstrong.

In terms of subs, I would probably go with Caballero, Salisu, Orsic, Sulemana, Onuachu, Djenepo, Mara/Adams, Ballard and Diallo assuming the new signings are fit enough to be on the bench.

[Pamplemousse]

6 hours ago, woodsaint1 said:

Cant be worse than the disgrace of a performance we put in at Brentford last season.....can it?

It could be... Mike Dean is the VAR

[Weston Super Saint]

10 hours ago, polegategavin said:

I’m staggered by the negativity towards our own team on this forum.

we have a new manager who will be here until at least the end of the season, why don’t we just support (him and) the team and give them as much energy to go out and do what we all want them to do, win as many games as possible and not be relegated.

Depressing isn't it.

[Midfield_General]

We’ll put out a terrified young goalkeeper behind a load of random players playing in random positions in a series of ever-changing formations, none of which they understand or have been properly coached in. The manager will shout and scowl on the touchline and bite his nails and pick his nose a lot, and huddle round an ipad nodding while Chris Cohen points at things. We’ll go 2-0 down, and then with the game lost and them sitting back we’ll put a half decent passing move together in the 83rd minute and the manager will say in his post match interview that that’s evidence that we’re “so, so close”. We’ll still be stone bottom Saturday night, with another game wasted. 

I’d imagine. 

[Pilchards]

2 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

We’ll put out a terrified young goalkeeper behind a load of random players playing in random positions in a series of ever-changing formations, none of which they understand or have been properly coached in. The manager will shout and scowl on the touchline and bite his nails and pick his nose a lot, and huddle round an ipad nodding while Chris Cohen points at things. We’ll go 2-0 down, and then with the game lost and them sitting back we’ll put a half decent passing move together in the 83rd minute and the manager will say in his post match interview that that’s evidence that we’re “so, so close”. We’ll still be stone bottom Saturday night, with another game wasted. 

I’d imagine. 

Damn I was going on Saturday but it looks like we are going to lose 2 nil according to you.

Actually I know the feeling and I just hope Jones sets it up properly and has a go.

[JRM]

Not feeling confident at all, expect a similar game to Villa at home where we end up losing 1-0 , frustrating near miss or VAR decision. 

Why isn't Ivan Toney suspended yet?

There's rugby at Twickenham Saturday afternoon so expect trains , roads, pubs to be a bit busier than usual   

 

Edited 2 February, 2023 by JRM

[tdmickey3]

Never mind what team it should be but it will be this

Bazuna

Bree  Lyanco  Bednerak  Salisu 

Diallo Ely JWP

Walcott Adams Armstrong

🤮

[S-Clarke]

Just now, tdmickey3 said:

Never mind what team it should be but it will be this

Bazuna

Bree  Lyanco  Bednerak  Salisu 

Diallo Ely JWP

Walcott Adams Armstrong

🤮

I keep seeing this Bazuna guy suggested, is he any good? 

[saintant]

One thing is crystal clear - Lavia must play every minute possible. He was in a different class when he came on against Newcastle - as good if not better than Bruno Guimaeras. He is crucial to us and it's a fine line between wrapping him up in cotton wool and getting the game time out of him that we need. This team without him is night and day because he is one of those players who knits everything together and makes the game flow. Among all the superb stuff he did he also played that defence splitting pass through to AA to give him a one on one.

Edited 2 February, 2023 by saintant