James Ward-Prowse

[Fabrice29]

3 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Substituted at half time for Forest. 
 

The ones who thought he’s over rated on here, and is actually bang average are being proved right again. 
 

 

Think this is a bit over the top (although I am one who believed he was over rated) but the biggest thing it sums up is the squad we had previously was really bad. At no point were we in any position to think about subbing him off and other clubs are happily shipping him off.

[david in sweden]

On 21/09/2024 at 11:45, SotonianWill said:

We ended our last Premier League season on a 13 game winless streak with him as captain.

He may well have done better in an attacking position in our current team - his safe passing in any defensive position is enough to bore anyone to death

- but he isn’t a massive change. 

1) JWP has no more responsibility for the relegation that the other 10  who filed in their roles.

2) I always felt he was most effective ín an attacking role , but he succeeded Stephen Davis in that midfield spot and that was it

3) the boring style of safe passing is what " Russball's possession game " is all about, but this league is all about grinding out  results, and learn 

that you have to leave all that"  entertainment stuff " to the likes of Man.City, Liverpool and Villa.

[gio1saints]

I always liked JWPs attitude, work rate and willingness to play wherever asked. His time at right back for example shows he put his team ahead of his personal preferences. When he left it was fair enough though I’d hoped he would have got a better team. 
Those here who still denigrate one of our best players of recent years are really just moaning for the sake of it. Good bloke, Intelligent, great SOH, hard worker, very good player. Will be a Club Manager one day, maybe even at Saints IMO. *

* on that managerial note have to say Adam Lallana is absolutely bossing it out there when he’s on the pitch. Instructions a go-go from him every minute. He is Putting in some fine credentials for a near future club management role for sure. 
 

Edited 24 September, 2024 by gio1saints

[beatlesaint]

5 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

* on that managerial note have to say Adam Lallana is absolutely bossing it out there when he’s on the pitch. Instructions a go-go from him every minute. He is Putting in some fine credentials for a near future club management role for sure. 
 

Totally agree, he's destined to be a coach/manager when he retires from playing.

[Chewy]

1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

Totally agree, he's destined to be a coach/manager when he retires from playing.

He has the hair and beard for it for sure

[SotonianWill]

4 hours ago, david in sweden said:

1) JWP has no more responsibility for the relegation that the other 10  who filed in their roles.

2) I always felt he was most effective ín an attacking role , but he succeeded Stephen Davis in that midfield spot and that was it

3) the boring style of safe passing is what " Russball's possession game " is all about, but this league is all about grinding out  results, and learn 

that you have to leave all that"  entertainment stuff " to the likes of Man.City, Liverpool and Villa.

1) I didn’t say he did. I merely replied to the comment that captain JWP wouldn’t let this happen. 

3) I don’t care about entertainment as long as we actually start to get results. The problem is we are boring and losing.

[Turkish]

On 22/09/2024 at 09:41, FarehamSaintJames said:

Funny how you remember that but seem to erase the Ramsdale and Fraser signings I called six weeks before it happened. Just saying 

Guess you got your info off the CoT thread where Ramsdale was called after the play off final and Fraser in June.

[hypochondriac]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Guess you got your info off the CoT thread where Ramsdale was called after the play off final and Fraser in June.

Although I'd hate to argue with the COT, I was actually the first person to mention signing Ramsdale. 

[Toadhall Saint]

21 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Although I'd hate to argue with the COT, I was actually the first person to mention signing Ramsdale. 

Aye you were

[Weston Super Saint]

Just to bring a little bit of cheer.

Every time you think about our transfers and how poor they have been, please remember the cash we got for JWP and how shit he's turned out to be since leaving.

[redandwhitey]

I’d rather have him than Downes right now.

[Convict Colony]

21 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Just to bring a little bit of cheer.

Every time you think about our transfers and how poor they have been, please remember the cash we got for JWP and how shit he's turned out to be since leaving.

I am not sure that is true.

1st season under moyes he played 37 times and scored 7 goals, moyes gets sacked new manager didnt fancy him and he was on loan to forest as back up to their midfield who are having a excellent season.

 

[Dr. Kucho]

If Potter doesn’t rate we could try to persuade him to join again in the summer. Knows the club, local and he’s not going to get an England call anymore with Bellingham, Palmer etc fighting for the same position. 

[Ted Bates Statue]

On 24/09/2024 at 15:58, hypochondriac said:

Although I'd hate to argue with the COT, I was actually the first person to mention signing Ramsdale. 

Yes and I consider it a real positive that we have been able to benefit from your valuable insight

[Ken Tone]

1 hour ago, Dr. Kucho said:

If Potter doesn’t rate we could try to persuade him to join again in the summer. Knows the club, local and he’s not going to get an England call anymore with Bellingham, Palmer etc fighting for the same position. 

He's surely earning far too much now for us to be able to afford him.

[BILLYDO]

JWP could come back as a right wing back to replace Walker Peters when he moves on. Would be ideal for the Championship. 

[HKsaint]

Is he still one goal behind Beckham’s free kick record?

[Lord Duckhunter]

5 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

and how shit he's turned out to be since leaving.

Since leaving? 

[hypochondriac]

2 hours ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

Yes and I consider it a real positive that we have been able to benefit from your valuable insight

What a bizarre post to respond to after 6 months. 

[waylander]

1 hour ago, Ken Tone said:

He's surely earning far too much now for us to be able to afford him.

Depends on whether he wants to play regularly, or sit on the bench and count his money.

[Matthew Le God]

2 hours ago, BILLYDO said:

JWP could come back as a right wing back to replace Walker Peters when he moves on. Would be ideal for the Championship. 

Why would he give up earning £100k+ per week to play as a right back in the Championship? 

[Lighthouse]

He’ll have Prem suitors in summer, either on loan or permanent deals. If nothing else he’s exactly the kind of player one of the promoted sides should be looking at.

[WALK DMC]

18 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Why would he give up earning £100k+ per week to play as a right back in the Championship? 

It's a fair question, but I think that there are scenarios where he could end-up at Saints next season: 

• He will be 31 years old this year and while he has never been a player that has relied on pace, age does start to become relevant
• This year has been a wasted season to date, which must be frustrating for him. Dropping down a league and playing every game would probably be attractive (particularly as he is getting older - see point above)
• Southampton is his spiritual home
• If West Ham want to get rid, they may pay a large chunk of his wages if allow him to go on loan
• I can't see him moving as right wing back, but somewhere in midfield would probably work 

I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see him put on a Saints shirt next season, although there are plenty of variables that may prevent it happening. Still, it would make a nice change to have JWP from West Ham to Saints rumours in the transfer window instead of the usual Danny Ings ones ..... 

[OldNick]

Not many players in the Championship earning 100K, I wonder why

[Saint Fan CaM]

Move on. This is exactly the type of transfer we don’t need, unless he comes to us on a free, WH pay at least 50% of his salary and we’ve got players that are deemed better to start.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Move on. This is exactly the type of transfer we don’t need, unless he comes to us on a free, WH pay at least 50% of his salary and we’ve got players that are deemed better to start.

Yep, we need pace and raw physical power. Love JWP but far too many lightweight players already. 

[Lighthouse]

1 minute ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Yep, we need pace and raw physical power. Love JWP but far too many lightweight players already. 

He’s clearly a far, far better player than Smallbone and would be a class above most midfielders in the Championship. You’d be nuts not to want him but he won’t be coming back whilst we’re a league below. I’d want someone more physical along side him but you don’t just need big cloggers to get out of the Championship.

[Costa del Solent]

Fuck off with JWP. Later on, in some distant future. He can get his applause. 
 

For now, however, he was our captain. Team is relegated on his watch. He should have stayed and showed some character. For me, captain goes down with the ship. You accept that when you accept the armband. 
 

No hard feelings. I’m sure he is a thoroughly likeable bloke. But couldn’t get out of here fast enough when we went down. He chose to warm benches for mid-table premier league clubs. Fine. 
 

Move on. 

[Lighthouse]

51 minutes ago, Costa del Solent said:

Fuck off with JWP. Later on, in some distant future. He can get his applause. 
 

For now, however, he was our captain. Team is relegated on his watch. He should have stayed and showed some character. For me, captain goes down with the ship. You accept that when you accept the armband. 
 

No hard feelings. I’m sure he is a thoroughly likeable bloke. But couldn’t get out of here fast enough when we went down. He chose to warm benches for mid-table premier league clubs. Fine. 
 

Move on. 

This post reads like nothing but hard feelings to me. If you only accept players who derive their morals from 17th century naval warfare, you’re going to have a pretty small squad.

[CB Fry]

6 hours ago, Costa del Solent said:

Fuck off with JWP. Later on, in some distant future. He can get his applause. 
 

For now, however, he was our captain. Team is relegated on his watch. He should have stayed and showed some character. For me, captain goes down with the ship. You accept that when you accept the armband. 
 

No hard feelings. I’m sure he is a thoroughly likeable bloke. But couldn’t get out of here fast enough when we went down. He chose to warm benches for mid-table premier league clubs. Fine. 
 

Move on. 

Hate to break it to you but the Captain of a 21st Century professional football first team is not accountable or responsible for the club in the same way as whatever Lord Nelson or Long John Silver figure you have in your head.

[Lord Duckhunter]

I’d prefer Long John Silver in the middle of the park, he’d be more aggressive than Prowse. I know he’s a bit one footed but,then again, so is Prowse. 

Edited 12 February, 2025 by Lord Duckhunter

[franniesTache]

20 hours ago, WALK DMC said:

Southampton is his spiritual home

Nope the skates are, he counted their FA Cup final as one of his favourite days, was a mascot and season ticket holder for them and counted Andy Awford as his favourite player.

Just because he worked here doesn't mean he's not still a skate cunt

[Gloucester Saint]

15 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

He’s clearly a far, far better player than Smallbone and would be a class above most midfielders in the Championship. You’d be nuts not to want him but he won’t be coming back whilst we’re a league below. I’d want someone more physical along side him but you don’t just need big cloggers to get out of the Championship.

I agree with your post in the main, we saw that at Hillsborough, and he won’t be cutting his pay by 75% next season to re-join us. Would definitely need pace and power around him if he did, which is the priority to get into the core of the spine over the summer. 

[disconnect]

At least he stays fit and can last a full match, which is much more than most of our midfield!

[East Kent Saint]

Long time gone now , older and hasn't played much , might be less clueless but not forward thinking enough.

[Saint86]

I'd have him back in a heartbeat - waltzes into our side. Let alone in the champ.

If he isn't getting game time at Spam under the new manager he will surely leave, and surely we'd be in the conversation in that case - would all come down to cost. But if there is a chance he's available this summer and interested in a return, and we then ignore it, then we really are run by donkeys imo.

Edited 12 February, 2025 by Saint86

[Monk]

1 hour ago, franniesTache said:

Nope the skates are, he counted their FA Cup final as one of his favourite days, was a mascot and season ticket holder for them and counted Andy Awford as his favourite player.

Just because he worked here doesn't mean he's not still a skate cunt

Can't argue with that logic. 

 

[ally_uk]

I think we need to move forwards and forget the likes of him and Ings..

Now is a real opportunity to properly reset, clearout the average players who haven't performed for a few seasons now i.e Stephens, Smallbone.

And bring in a bit of height and presence, instead of having powderpuff weaklings..... get some absolute units in! Tough tackling bastards! 

[SaintTex]

On 11/02/2025 at 08:11, HKsaint said:

Is he still one goal behind Beckham’s free kick record?

I believe so. I don't think he has one since leaving Saints. (curse?)

man, at the time it looked like he was going to smash the record.

[Lighthouse]

Sharing this again because it was just ridiculous.

[Ted Bates Statue]

8 hours ago, franniesTache said:

Nope the skates are, he counted their FA Cup final as one of his favourite days, was a mascot and season ticket holder for them and counted Andy Awford as his favourite player.

Just because he worked here doesn't mean he's not still a skate cunt

I wasn't convinced by this argument so I went to find video evidence in the only derby match he's ever been in, under the theory that out of our four goals without reply he didn't score or assist any and didn't even celebrate once.

I invite my fellow posters to watch this damning footage for themselves and make their own judgement as to whether we were harbouring a dirty skate in our XI that night.

 

 

[CB Fry]

8 hours ago, franniesTache said:

Nope the skates are, he counted their FA Cup final as one of his favourite days, was a mascot and season ticket holder for them and counted Andy Awford as his favourite player.

Just because he worked here doesn't mean he's not still a skate cunt

You realise he's not an eight year old child anymore, don't you?

[HKsaint]

1 hour ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

I wasn't convinced by this argument so I went to find video evidence in the only derby match he's ever been in, under the theory that out of our four goals without reply he didn't score or assist any and didn't even celebrate once.

I invite my fellow posters to watch this damning footage for themselves and make their own judgement as to whether we were harbouring a dirty skate in our XI that night.

 

 

Those were the day when our players were all moving and passing forward, including JWP ! But now, even RM has gone, we are still playing Russball. What a contrast. 
 

[Saint_clark]

45 minutes ago, HKsaint said:

Those were the day when our players were all moving and passing forward, including JWP ! But now, even RM has gone, we are still playing Russball. What a contrast. 
 

Come back Ralph, all is forgiven. 

[austsaint]

4 hours ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

I wasn't convinced by this argument so I went to find video evidence in the only derby match he's ever been in, under the theory that out of our four goals without reply he didn't score or assist any and didn't even celebrate once.

I invite my fellow posters to watch this damning footage for themselves and make their own judgement as to whether we were harbouring a dirty skate in our XI that night.

 

 

The thing I learned watching back those highlights, apart from the evidence that JWP wasn’t/isn’t a dirty skate, was just how much we miss a striker like Ings (as he was then) and a midfielder like Romeu.

[franniesTache]

15 hours ago, CB Fry said:

You realise he's not an eight year old child anymore, don't you?

Yup not sure what relevance that has now, unless you think the side you support changes as you get older?

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, franniesTache said:

Yup not sure what relevance that has now, unless you think the side you support changes as you get older?

For professional football players then yes of course it does. Absolutely bizarre that you need that explaining when there are famous examples of that very thing. 

[franniesTache]

2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

For professional football players then yes of course it does. Absolutely bizarre that you need that explaining when there are famous examples of that very thing. 

Nah i'm not having that he's a skate and always will be a skate. Was he decent for us? Yes. Does that stop him being a skate? No.

[Ted Bates Statue]

16 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

Nah i'm not having that he's a skate and always will be a skate. Was he decent for us? Yes. Does that stop him being a skate? No.

I think if there was the slightest indication of antagonisation towards us since joining our academy, I'd understand your viewpoint better. But it's been decades. If there is a hint of mercenary attitude, that's not really the same thing.

I wonder if Spurs supporters feel the same about Harry Kane being a former Arsenal supporter.

 

 

[Gingeletiss]

7 minutes ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

I think if there was the slightest indication of antagonisation towards us since joining our academy, I'd understand your viewpoint better. But it's been decades. If there is a hint of mercenary attitude, that's not really the same thing.

I wonder if Spurs supporters feel the same about Harry Kane being a former Arsenal supporter.

 

 

Or LeTiss supporting Spurs as a kid.