Jaime Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: He destroyed our under 18s team a few years ago. We couldn't cope with his strength and speed. Thanks for posting this. I was hoping to get in there first about it.
Jaime Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Super important to utilise the Premier League loans and he’s a great start. Would also be happy to get a winger on loan. JJ Gabriel please 🙏
HarvSFC Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago I was expecting to read rave reviews on the Stoke forum, but errrr..... https://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/317513/divin-mubama?page=18&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google
Jaime Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 5 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Max Alleyne can come home too. Only caught him once for City when he was recalled but he looked composed. Makes the CB spot stronger. Agreed.. Alleyne adds pace to the backline. Give the armband to Tay too 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Who is JJ Gabriel? Divan Mukamba, is he any good?
SuperSAINT Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: Who is JJ Gabriel? Divan Mukamba, is he any good? JJ is about 3 years old at Man Utd & looks a ridiculous talent.
Appy Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 15 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: I was expecting to read rave reviews on the Stoke forum, but errrr..... https://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/317513/divin-mubama?page=18&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google Seems similar to chat about Larin before he signed. 1
Colinjb Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Appy said: Seems similar to chat about Larin before he signed. Looks like the kid was hung out to dry there.
SuperSAINT Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 18 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: I was expecting to read rave reviews on the Stoke forum, but errrr..... https://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/317513/divin-mubama?page=18&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google 2 minutes ago, Appy said: Seems similar to chat about Larin before he signed. Exactly, youth football & loans are choppy waters in terms of predicting future outcomes. Reading / Blackpool / Cambridge fans probably wouldn’t be saying Dom Ballard is going to boss League one in the 2025/26 season.
CSA96 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 19 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: I was expecting to read rave reviews on the Stoke forum, but errrr..... https://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/317513/divin-mubama?page=18&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google First pro loan and he was in a crap team. Probably best off not paying too much attention to it. Clearly highly regarded and was in demand again this summer by decent coaches
SouSaint Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 37 minutes ago, James said: Yeah, he got a bad ankle injury. That was from January to March. Hope this isn't our Stewart replacement because he looks a pretty significant downgrade.
coalman Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 24 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: I was expecting to read rave reviews on the Stoke forum, but errrr..... https://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/317513/divin-mubama?page=18&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google Bearing in mind how wrong I was about Larin I'm not going to judge. Seem to remember him being a handful against us before he got sent off last season. This is a great chance to offer him minutes in a side that's going to get a lot of crosses in without expecting him to do it all on his own or expecting him to play 90 minutes every game. West Ham fans reckon they'd happily take him back on loan. Edited 21 hours ago by coalman
CSA96 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SouSaint said: That was from January to March. Hope this isn't our Stewart replacement because he looks a pretty significant downgrade. I think we probably have to accept that any Stewart replacement would/will be a perceived downgrade. The only reason we'd have had a striker as good as Stewart as our backup striker is because he is made of biscuits 1
VectisSaint Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, Ken Tone said: Sorry to see Shea go but we have plenty of midfielders so no need to replace as such. Use (some of) the money to buy a striker now please. Another Larin type but maybe a bit younger and we'd have a bloody good side. We don't have 'plenty' of midfielders. We need 4 CMs for the system and way we play. Critical that we replace Shea. Also critical that we bring in one or more like 2 strikers (and get rid of BBD/Down). Also need a backup keeper. 3
Give it to Ron Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 18 minutes ago, SouSaint said: That was from January to March. Hope this isn't our Stewart replacement because he looks a pretty significant downgrade. Hopefully an upgrade on BBD though
qwertyell Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, VectisSaint said: We don't have 'plenty' of midfielders. We need 4 CMs for the system and way we play. Critical that we replace Shea. Also critical that we bring in one or more like 2 strikers (and get rid of BBD/Down). Also need a backup keeper. Not particularly enamoured with our wing options either, Scienza aside. I was hoping Dragan's bullish talk of absolutely going for it this season would have looked a bit more ambitious, but I guess he said all the right things before season tickets went on sale, and here we are. The squad's good, and we should certainly make the top 8. But the league is stronger this year, so standing still is not going to cut it.
Polaroid Saint Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 56 minutes ago, saintant said: Is this a new board game? Can't be arsed to work out what it all means. Who is the better player? It's a Spider Graph (I think they probably call them something fancy in the world of footy analytics, like a Player Radar or something) anyway, What this one sort of shows (and given the minutes are similar, it's reasonably useful): Mubama is stronger all-round/physical forward profile. Lankshear: comparable player, with some potentially more interesting attacking numbers. Which, given what we want is fine. We want a classic link-up man to bring the midfielders and wingers up the pitch as well as a finisher. I wouldn't trust just this graph, but it's a decent comparison for sure. 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Edited 21 hours ago by Polaroid Saint 2
a1ex2001 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Hopefully an upgrade on BBD though My gran would be an upgrade on BBD and she has been dead over a decade! Edited 21 hours ago by a1ex2001 3
coalman Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, a1ex2001 said: My gran would be an update on BBD and she has been dead over a decade! Tonda played a blinder showing Spots how much we need to replace Stewart yesterday. 2 1
hypochondriac Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Let's be honest no one has any idea if this is a good deal or not. He has shown a lot of promise in pre season which is good but was pretty underwhelming last season which is a negative. If Larin can stay fit then we won't have to rely on him too much anyway. Let's hope he's blossomed like a Delap or a Kane and in a better team that creates more he can score more and be a handful. Not the sure thing I was hoping for after Stewart left but could still end up as a smart acquisition.
MarkSFC Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago What we all dont know is what his projected development trajectory looks like. Not that every player always ends up where it is forecast but you'd hope that all our analysts and sports science people have a decent idea of where he is. I like the sound of him and it could just be a brilliant signing. Was hoping for someone more established but theres gambles with them too. Larin, Mubama, Archer, Leo, Dobbin, Azaz....should be plenty of goals from them.
saintant Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: What we all dont know is what his projected development trajectory looks like. Not that every player always ends up where it is forecast but you'd hope that all our analysts and sports science people have a decent idea of where he is. I like the sound of him and it could just be a brilliant signing. Was hoping for someone more established but theres gambles with them too. Larin, Mubama, Archer, Leo, Dobbin, Azaz....should be plenty of goals from them. Then you've got the defenders especially THB and Manning. Would be great if Fellows starts scoring but I'm not holding my breath. 1
revolution saint Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, HarvSFC said: I was expecting to read rave reviews on the Stoke forum, but errrr..... https://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/317513/divin-mubama?page=18&utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google Worth reading some of the first pages of that thread where he gets a lot of praise as well. Seems like using a 19 year old kid in his first loan as first choice number 9 was probably a bit too much too soon. 1
Starksj1995 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Based in what? I know Alfie house mentioned him but there was no suggestion he was itk. Alfie house not in the know he works for the de can’t be more local than that
Starksj1995 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 hours ago, hypochondriac said: If they really want something like that then it's going to have to be a top striker and someone like Jordan James. Not sure we can afford both Get this st on loan Tgen a replacement for Shea this week
hypochondriac Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, goodymatt said: That wouldn't be good. Mubama is the Stewart replacement. Losing Archer would leave us weaker than last year. 7
johnnyboy Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Starksj1995 said: Get this st on loan Tgen a replacement for Shea this week 🐷🐖🐽
Saint Scott Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 minutes ago, goodymatt said: 2+2=5. Lazy journalism
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Saint Scott said: 2+2=5. Lazy journalism Wasn't Archer heavily linked to West Brom earlier?
SNSUN Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, VectisSaint said: We don't have 'plenty' of midfielders. We need 4 CMs for the system and way we play. Critical that we replace Shea. Also critical that we bring in one or more like 2 strikers (and get rid of BBD/Down). Also need a backup keeper. With the Shea sale, for me getting a new CM in is the priority, especially as we still don't know if Jander will be here come September. Second is a striker but we're hamstrung with too many of the ones we don't want. Third is a second keeper. After that it becomes replacing anyone we sell or upgrading existing positions if the right player comes along. Thankless task.
MarkSFC Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: That wouldn't be good. Mubama is the Stewart replacement. Losing Archer would leave us weaker than last year. Perhaps theres another striker in the pipeline too which allows Archer to go (and BBD🙏🤞😂) 1
goodymatt Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: That wouldn't be good. Mubama is the Stewart replacement. Losing Archer would leave us weaker than last year. I wonder if Jebbison might come in too if we shift Archer, BBD and Downs? Probs too far down the pecking order for his liking.
hypochondriac Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: 2+2=5. Lazy journalism Hope so. Woukd make very little sense strengthening a direct rival and making ourselves weaker in the process.
Swaythling Saint Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: That wouldn't be good. Mubama is the Stewart replacement. Losing Archer would leave us weaker than last year. Yeah don't see how the two are related tbh 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Swaythling Saint said: Yeah don't see how the two are related tbh BBD will cook this season. 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Would rather lose Brereton Diaz over Archer. 13
WinglessWonder Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: BBD will cook this season. I did see that they were recruiting in the burger stands in the concourses... 🤔 1 3
Saint Matty 76 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: Would rather lose Brereton Diaz over Archer. And I’m sure everybody would rather buy Archer over Brereton Diaz! 1
Turkish Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, VectisSaint said: We don't have 'plenty' of midfielders. We need 4 CMs for the system and way we play. Critical that we replace Shea. Also critical that we bring in one or more like 2 strikers (and get rid of BBD/Down). Also need a backup keeper. We ain’t signing another keeper whilst Ramsdale and Baz are still here. CM we’ve got 3 and just one I’ve no doubt we’ll replace Charles probably with a YHGTIer as we won’t get better than Jander, Downes and Bragg for our budget Striker looks like the City kid to play second fiddle to Larin until he proves he’s better were well stocked it’s a decent squad and let’s not forget the added bonus it’s been together for a season which is rare in this league Edited 20 hours ago by Turkish 6
Paulwantsapint81 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Would Mubama be straight loan or would there be any chance of signing at pre agreed fee if he is a success?
coalman Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago If we can shift BBD, Sugawara, Bazunu and Ramsdale that'd be grand. Would love to see Edozie get a run but realistically we're getting what we can for him.
saintant Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 minute ago, coalman said: If we can shift BBD, Sugawara, Bazunu and Ramsdale that'd be grand. Would love to see Edozie get a run but realistically we're getting what we can for him. Not sure how many more runs we should be giving Edozie. Don't think he's going to cut it for us. 1
Turkish Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 2 minutes ago, saintant said: Not sure how many more runs we should be giving Edozie. Don't think he's going to cut it for us. I’m not a fan of Edozie and neither is anyone else considering we’ve been trying to sell him for two years and failed but he could offer something off the bench. Hes a typical winger you’ve seen 100000 of got a trick and a bit of skill so on first viewing everyone thinks is decent but delivers very little. Shame really as his move to us has ruined him as he was quite highly rated. Guess 3 years of barely playing does that 2
disconnect Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 41 minutes ago, Turkish said: I’m not a fan of Edozie and neither is anyone else considering we’ve been trying to sell him for two years and failed but he could offer something off the bench. Hes a typical winger you’ve seen 100000 of got a trick and a bit of skill so on first viewing everyone thinks is decent but delivers very little. Shame really as his move to us has ruined him as he was quite highly rated. Guess 3 years of barely playing does that Always thought he was pretty decent but very lightweight when first came to us. Second season was playing well and contributing quite a bit but getting hacked to pieces every game (as he was too good for the defenders), until that almost career ender against Norwich which somehow wasn’t a red card. A truly awful challenge! Pretty sure something must’ve happened behind the scenes for him to be completely overlooked first half of last season (probably wasn’t happy with being loaned out before), but didn’t do terribly when was needed, albeit (understandably) a bit rusty 1
Saint Pete Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 49 minutes ago, Turkish said: I’m not a fan of Edozie and neither is anyone else considering we’ve been trying to sell him for two years and failed but he could offer something off the bench. Hes a typical winger you’ve seen 100000 of got a trick and a bit of skill so on first viewing everyone thinks is decent but delivers very little. Shame really as his move to us has ruined him as he was quite highly rated. Guess 3 years of barely playing does that Yeah, would say he is a decent player to have up your sleeve on the bench and to fill in for a few games if there is an injury. But wouldn't be happy at all if for example Scienza was sold and we said he was then going to be 1st choice! So, I guess it depends if he is OK with remaining in that backup role and also of course whether there is any interest from elsewhere from someone who can match his wages.
Saint86 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, CSA96 said: First pro loan and he was in a crap team. Probably best off not paying too much attention to it. Clearly highly regarded and was in demand again this summer by decent coaches Read a few pages of that and it sounds like his attitude was rotten though - couldn't be bothered, no pressing, turning up late etc. That's a big concern in my book.
Turkish Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 13 minutes ago, disconnect said: Always thought he was pretty decent but very lightweight when first came to us. Second season was playing well and contributing quite a bit but getting hacked to pieces every game (as he was too good for the defenders), until that almost career ender against Norwich which somehow wasn’t a red card. A truly awful challenge! Pretty sure something must’ve happened behind the scenes for him to be completely overlooked first half of last season (probably wasn’t happy with being loaned out before), but didn’t do terribly when was needed, albeit (understandably) a bit rusty He was a weird signing I don’t think we ever watched him or larios as both of them were miles away from being ready for the premier league. A really weird transfer window which some of us said at the time was whilst others said was genius 😂
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