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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    If he's their Eriksen replacement, or their scouts are even considering that, then Spurs are in trouble.
    Eirksen has 9 goals and 16 assists this season JWP has 7 goals and 0 assists (obviously JWP has played less minutes). Not quite a Tadic for Moi replacement but certainly I'd be disappointed as a spurs fan.

    I imagine spurs are only considering it because they think they can get JWP cheap I expect Levy to offer us 10 million while getting poch to text James love notes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    Eirksen has 9 goals and 16 assists this season JWP has 7 goals and 0 assists (obviously JWP has played less minutes). Not quite a Tadic for Moi replacement but certainly I'd be disappointed as a spurs fan.

    I imagine spurs are only considering it because they think they can get JWP cheap I expect Levy to offer us 10 million while getting poch to text James love notes.
    I cant see JwP leaving unless it is for a big offer and we have not shifted as many others we we hoped

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    I cant see JwP leaving unless it is for a big offer and we have not shifted as many others we we hoped
    Probably not but if the ITK is right spurs do tend to be ****s about this sort of thing Morgan, Victor, Berahino to name a few. They love to unsettle a player to make them push for a move while make stupid low ball offers to the parent club. I doubt they would offer saints anything like a enough money its not the spurs way to pay the going rate.

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    I thought Spurs wanted Grealish?

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    JWP covered the second-most amount of ground over the Christmas period. Engine.

    Which players ran furthest?
    N'Golo Kante (Chelsea) 48.01km
    James Ward-Prowse (Southampton) 46.71km
    Fred (Man Utd) 46.49km
    Ashley Westwood (Burnley) 45.52km
    Dele Alli (Tottenham) 45.3km
    Source: Opta

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNSUN View Post
    JWP covered the second-most amount of ground over the Christmas period. Engine.

    Which players ran furthest?
    N'Golo Kante (Chelsea) 48.01km
    James Ward-Prowse (Southampton) 46.71km
    Fred (Man Utd) 46.49km
    Ashley Westwood (Burnley) 45.52km
    Dele Alli (Tottenham) 45.3km
    Source: Opta
    Dele Alli clocked up most of his distance holding his arms like a penguin pursuing Mike bloody Dean round the SMS pitch begging for a penalty or 2!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Boy Saint View Post
    Dele Alli clocked up most of his distance holding his arms like a penguin pursuing Mike bloody Dean round the SMS pitch begging for a penalty or 2!!
    To be fair to Alli, the one where McCarthy spilled it and then blocked his follow up he didn't appeal and actually congratulated McCarthy on his block, its Kane and Eriksson that were running around after the ref asking for a pen.

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    Sugest you have a lok back at earlier pages, try 9-11 for a few laughs. Jeez what a load of trolls, WUMs, ignorant fu ckwits there are on this site

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajjuk View Post
    To be fair to Alli, the one where McCarthy spilled it and then blocked his follow up he didn't appeal and actually congratulated McCarthy on his block, its Kane and Eriksson that were running around after the ref asking for a pen.
    Indeed he did. I’m glad somebody else noticed that.

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    Looks like Mosin was right all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SFC View Post
    Looks like Mosin was right all along.
    Not really. The main question was who -JWP or Redmond- was having a better season last season. And that was question was answered pretty emphatically given Redmond was voted player of the season by fellow players and fans alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    Not really. The main question was who -JWP or Redmond- was having a better season last season. And that was question was answered pretty emphatically given Redmond was voted player of the season by fellow players and fans alike.
    For you maybe, my argument was that he was doing a good job creating and scoring chances for a cm who missed half the league games and redders had the full season....... And still finished behind him on league goals, and looks like he will yet again be out scored by a defense / central mid lol. Ohh and that he will be a great mid in the future and he will be one of our best players blah blah blah.. Its OK, I was wrong on redders obviously as Henry is on fire and banging ng in the goals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    Not really. The main question was who -JWP or Redmond- was having a better season last season. And that was question was answered pretty emphatically given Redmond was voted player of the season by fellow players and fans alike.
    Ohh, 1 more thing, jwp is a better player than redders hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosin View Post
    Ohh, 1 more thing, jwp is a better player than redders hands down.
    The bit that is bizarre is why you only ever compare JWP to Redmond.

    They both play every minute, so are not in competition with each other. They play in the same team. They are totally different players whose roles in the team are not similar.

    JWP has been great this season, no question and is playing better than he ever has done for us.

    Last year Redmomd was deservedly player of the year.

    But I don't get why you cannot mention JWP without comparing him to Redmond.

    Its nonsence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusic View Post
    The bit that is bizarre is why you only ever compare JWP to Redmond.

    They both play every minute, so are not in competition with each other. They play in the same team. They are totally different players whose roles in the team are not similar.

    JWP has been great this season, no question and is playing better than he ever has done for us.

    Last year Redmomd was deservedly player of the year.

    But I don't get why you cannot mention JWP without comparing him to Redmond.

    Its nonsence.
    I still claim jwp did have a better season than redders, redders was fans favourite , and as always jwp is the fans whipping boy, I just point out that the amazing redders keeps being beating at his job by a defensive minded player.

    I just point out our amazing forward score and assists less goals than our cm / defensive mid who gets
    Ripped by fans all the time for not scoring and creating chances and yet here we are..... A defensive player scoring more than a winger is crap but the winger who's job it is to score can't beat a defensive mid? Do you see the ironey in that?

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    Sounds like a bit of a dopey argument to me.

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    But enough of last season, so far this season Ings and jwp are our best players, I might be right in thinking redders is out of the picture for poty this time round lol?

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    Any more posts on here about Redmond are getting deleted, it’s a bizarre and pointless argument which seems to be going round in circles.

    Good game from JWP today. Keep it up lad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    Any more posts on here about Redmond are getting deleted, it’s a bizarre and pointless argument which seems to be going round in circles.

    Good game from JWP today. Keep it up lad.
    Yeah, we can save that for religion threads!

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    I have always been a great fan of JWP and this year he has added steel to his tackles. I thought the one on Moussa Sissoko against Spurs was special but may be the reason he is out until April. We won’t need to worry about him (or Kane?) if Spurs get through to the next round of the cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saints4Prem View Post
    I have always been a great fan of JWP and this year he has added steel to his tackles. I thought the one on Moussa Sissoko against Spurs was special but may be the reason he is out until April. We won’t need to worry about him (or Kane?) if Spurs get through to the next round of the cup.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51026934
    Was a brilliant, hard but fair tackle.

    If he can play like he is now til the end of the season there will be offers for him.

    He is turning his off the ball weakness into a strength, fair play to him.

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    "Without the ball, Ward-Prowse has taken his game to another level. His tackling data is hitting bewildering levels. Gareth Southgate will be watching."
    https://www.skysports.com/football/n...betting-column

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    It's a good shout, England are not exactly blessed with midfield quality.

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    He seems to be similar to Schneiderlin in that he grew into playing a deeper midfield role when he hit his mid-20s.

    To be fair, he's never looked really aggressive enough to play as a CM until last year. He's really kicked on and is now easily our best player in that role.

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    Really happy he's found his role and is improving and excelling in it. He was always regarded as a good player but it wasn't clear where he could fit in. A "set piece specialist" not quick enough to be a winger, not strong enough for central midfield, not defensive enough for fullback. Ralph seems to have taught him how to harry, hustle and tackle and added a bit of bite to his game. His fitness (which has never been an issue) is ideal for this type of role. Too bad that due to bad planning on behalf of the club he will probably have to play out of position for a few weeks.

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    Has grown immensely. Wasn’t his biggest fan but I would pick him every time now

    Well done

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    he has turned into an excellent player.

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    Fully expecting him in the next England squad.

    Southgate loves JWP, he's been in excellent form and England need midfielders that run a lot and cover a lot of ground, and who are his realistic competitors in CM in a 4-3-3? Henderson you'd have to assume is a shoe-in, but apart from that - Winks? Rice? Both having poor seasons.

    Add in the versatility he has, able to play RB or RM, and obviously the set pieces, I think he'd be perfect for England at the moment.

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    Let’s not get carried away. All he’s done is cement his place in an average premier league side. He may become Saints version of Mark Noble, but we’ll need someone creative next to him if we want to progress. Him, OR & PEH are too one paced & safe for the modern game. Just as Ings has raised the bar in respect of our strikers, we really need some class in centre midfield.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    Let’s not get carried away. All he’s done is cement his place in an average premier league side. He may become Saints version of Mark Noble, but we’ll need someone creative next to him if we want to progress. Him, OR & PEH are too one paced & safe for the modern game. Just as Ings has raised the bar in respect of our strikers, we really need some class in centre midfield.


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    Are you crazy? He is one of the top midfielders in the league right now. Borne out by the stats and pundits.

    If he played for any other Prem team people on here would be gushing about him and he would be absolute miles out of our price range

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    Let’s not get carried away. All he’s done is cement his place in an average premier league side. He may become Saints version of Mark Noble, but we’ll need someone creative next to him if we want to progress. Him, OR & PEH are too one paced & safe for the modern game. Just as Ings has raised the bar in respect of our strikers, we really need some class in centre midfield.


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    Seriously now in the

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    [QUOTE=saint77;2797314]Seriously now in the top half a dozen midfielders in the country Would surprise me if Man City come in for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by washsaint View Post
    Are you crazy? He is one of the top midfielders in the league right now.
    Pony.

    Take the red & white glasses off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by saint77 View Post
    Seriously now in the top half a dozen midfielders in the country Would surprise me if Man City come in for him
    May surprise you, it would ****ing amaze me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by washsaint View Post
    Are you crazy? He is one of the top midfielders in the league right now. Borne out by the stats and pundits.

    If he played for any other Prem team people on here would be gushing about him and he would be absolute miles out of our price range
    No they wouldn't. He is having, at last, a purple patch. But it wasn't that long ago he was playing awfully. All most pundits do is peddle the myth of him being the great set piece specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    No they wouldn't. He is having, at last, a purple patch. But it wasn't that long ago he was playing awfully. All most pundits do is peddle the myth of him being the great set piece specialist.
    JWP seems to be a victim of the idea that to be good at set pieces you need to be scoring from the majority of them. News flash, even the best freekick takers in history missed more than they scored, and even the best corner takers would have had less than 1% of their corners converted in their career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    No they wouldn't. He is having, at last, a purple patch. But it wasn't that long ago he was playing awfully. All most pundits do is peddle the myth of him being the great set piece specialist.
    It's not a myth at all.

    Statistically he is one of the best free kick takers in PL, in terms of goals and hitting the target, he is one of the most consistent.

    In the PL no one has ever scored more than 4 direct free kicks in a season, the consistent players will be getting about 2-3 a season and that is what JWP does, and he does it in a team that until recently won't have been creating as many chances for free kicks round the box as the better teams. If he played for Man City or Liverpool he'd probably be scoring about 4-5 a season as he'd get far more chances.

    In terms of scoring from attempts and making the keeper make the save, he is right up there with the best.

    Also he's not really having a purple patch, hes been playing very well for over a year pretty much since Ralph came in, the whole team wasn't great at the start of the season but he was one of the better ones IMO and has raised his game now above what he did in the 2nd half of the season last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    Let’s not get carried away. All he’s done is cement his place in an average premier league side. He may become Saints version of Mark Noble, but we’ll need someone creative next to him if we want to progress. Him, OR & PEH are too one paced & safe for the modern game. Just as Ings has raised the bar in respect of our strikers, we really need some class in centre midfield.


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    Some common sense at last. Too many people getting carried away. It's good to see him become more reliable recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    No they wouldn't. He is having, at last, a purple patch. But it wasn't that long ago he was playing awfully. All most pundits do is peddle the myth of him being the great set piece specialist.
    He's had a lot of purple patches.

    One of the few to do consistently well under Puel. Did ok at times under Pellegrino when we were the most dire boring team around.

    Struggled under Hughes but so did a lot of good players, the manager was a complete joke.

    Since Ralph came in JWP has improved again. He's shown he's adaptable to tactics, positions, managers. Adkins liked him, Poch liked him, Koeman liked him, Ralph likes him. It's no coincidence.

    He'll look better the better the team is around him, the more space he gets, the more can finish off chances he creates, the more free kicks we win. I think he finally knows his best position and how to play it. It's not right midfield (although he can do that role) and it's not further forward, it's a high energy central midfield breaking up play and driving forward. He's been excellent.

    Moving forward, assuming we keep him, our investment should be in the best possible CM partner for him.

    But I can see a bigger club wanting him at some stage. And I bet we'd accept any offer around 40m. Utd, Arsenal, Leciester, Spurs, Everton, can see them all maybe going for him and having the money to do it. I don't think JWP would be that eager to move but then, he's not in the England squad and a big club and CL football would do that. Plus, money.

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    He's basically doing for us now what Morgan did for us at his best, box to box midfielder, pressing hard, tackling and getting forward. He is also more of goal threat than Morgan was and has the set pieces, but is physically a bit smaller in stature.

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    I’m sure this has been covered elsewhere but for those who don’t read the board religiously - some great news re ward-prowse’ injury just being a deep cut, and he may even be fit for Burnley. Given it looked like ligament damage that’s a huge bonus for us and him on a disappointing night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barsiem View Post
    I’m sure this has been covered elsewhere but for those who don’t read the board religiously - some great news re ward-prowse’ injury just being a deep cut, and he may even be fit for Burnley. Given it looked like ligament damage that’s a huge bonus for us and him on a disappointing night
    Good news indeed. A real bonus if he`s fit for the Burnley game but I hope he isn`t `rushed back` too early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barsiem View Post
    I’m sure this has been covered elsewhere but for those who don’t read the board religiously - some great news re ward-prowse’ injury just being a deep cut, and he may even be fit for Burnley. Given it looked like ligament damage that’s a huge bonus for us and him on a disappointing night
    Is it normal to get a deep cut from a momentary tap from studs? Or was Sessegnon wearing blades? #EdwardScissorfeet

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    Quote Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post
    Is it normal to get a deep cut from a momentary tap from studs? Or was Sessegnon wearing blades? #EdwardScissorfeet
    I was thinking the same. Apparently he was cut so deeply that you could see bone. When compared to the possible brush that Son suffered to win a penalty, you'd think that would be a red card offence.

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    Just to opine. His through ball for Ings (which he subsequently powered over Lloris to hit the bar) was a thing of true beauty. The weight was perfect, beat the defence and the keeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic Saint View Post
    I was thinking the same. Apparently he was cut so deeply that you could see bone. When compared to the possible brush that Son suffered to win a penalty, you'd think that would be a red card offence.
    Don’t be silly it was dealt with ... we won a throw in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint86 View Post
    Just to opine. His through ball for Ings (which he subsequently powered over Lloris to hit the bar) was a thing of true beauty. The weight was perfect, beat the defence and the keeper.
    Actually, Lloris was terrible there - he could have come and collected that easily. By the time Ings reached it, the ball had traveled 60 yards and was in the 6 yard box with the keeper retreating.

    Was a lovely pass, but Lloris' ineptitude made it. And then Ings missed the sitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint86 View Post
    Just to opine. His through ball for Ings (which he subsequently powered over Lloris to hit the bar) was a thing of true beauty. The weight was perfect, beat the defence and the keeper.
    Henderson's to Salah against us was even better I think.

    A thing of real beauty was our second goal. Brilliant run and pass by Redmond and superb finish by Ings.

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