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    Can see us giving the scousers a good game and coming away with a point.

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    McCarthy

    Bertrand
    Bednarek
    Stephens
    JWP*

    Romeu
    Hojbjerg

    Djenepo
    Redmond

    Ings
    Long

    (* Torn between playing JWP out of position, when he's been one of our best midfielders during our recent top 4 form, versus the alternative of playing a weaker RB.)
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    Good to see Long training we missed his running and movement last Saturday


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    No sign of Armstrong in training photos

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    When do we have to sign players by for them to be eligible for this? Is it lunch time on the 31st? I would assume KWP would be done by then, but whether they'd risk him without training is another question. I'd rather play with a specialist right back in this rather than a square peg, even if he hasn't trained with the team much (as long as he's fully fit).

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    McCarthy

    JWP bednarek Stephens bertrand

    Djenepo romeu Hoj redmond

    Ings long

    I think the team picks itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beavis17 View Post
    No sign of Armstrong in training photos
    Nor Valery unfortunately.
    JWP at right back then.

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    Going for 5 straight away wins and to be honest with you we shouldn’t have any problems.
    Liverpool are not too good at home and they are certainly there for the taking.
    Usual 1-3 with Ings getting a couple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    Nor Valery unfortunately.
    JWP at right back then.
    Would hope KWP comes in for a (tough) debut!

    Keep JWP where he is best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNSUN View Post
    When do we have to sign players by for them to be eligible for this? Is it lunch time on the 31st? I would assume KWP would be done by then, but whether they'd risk him without training is another question. I'd rather play with a specialist right back in this rather than a square peg, even if he hasn't trained with the team much (as long as he's fully fit).
    If the report from Give it to Ron on the KWP thread is accurate then it looks like we'll have the signing completed and announced tomorrow.

    Probably still be too soon to throw him in against Liverpool though. If it was a home game against a lesser team then it might be OK, but if he gets roasted on his debut for us then it could destroy his confidence completely.

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    Kevin Friend is the ref!
    Premier league taking the ****!

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    No Mane for them at least.

    Think we have to be realistic here and after our recent results at least it’s a free hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fookwit View Post
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    **** sake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheaf Saint View Post
    If the report from Give it to Ron on the KWP thread is accurate then it looks like we'll have the signing completed and announced tomorrow.

    Probably still be too soon to throw him in against Liverpool though. If it was a home game against a lesser team then it might be OK, but if he gets roasted on his debut for us then it could destroy his confidence completely.
    KWP has a hamstring problem atm

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWar View Post
    McCarthy

    JWP bednarek Stephens bertrand

    Djenepo romeu Hoj redmond

    Ings long

    I think the team picks itself.
    I think Ralph will pick it

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    Quote Originally Posted by waylander View Post
    KWP has a hamstring problem atm
    Just like us to sign someone ready for the first team. Well he'll keep Cedric and Yan company then in the treatment room as we struggle on at right back with Danso.

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    Send the U23s and give Ralph the weekend off.

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    Fancy Ings to score although I think they'll have too much for us in midfield. Dreading to see who is at RB for us

    Mane out is great for us although I think Armstrong is incredibly important in our 4-2-2-2 system which levels it out.

    3-1 Liverpool

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    Liverpool play away to West Ham tomorrow night, Moyes desperate for points as they get sucked into the bottom 3, hopefully Liverpool suffer a few minor knocks and decide to start a few 1st team players winter breaks early before the weekend.

    We’re playing well away from home but no chance of winning this, draw would be incredible, hopefully a respectable score line but realistically 3-1 Liverpool

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRM View Post
    Liverpool play away to West Ham tomorrow night, Moyes desperate for points as they get sucked into the bottom 3, hopefully Liverpool suffer a few minor knocks and decide to start a few 1st team players winter breaks early before the weekend.

    We’re playing well away from home but no chance of winning this, draw would be incredible, hopefully a respectable score line but realistically 3-1 Liverpool
    Should we do a quick collection and send it to Antonio to do a job on VVD, and Noble on Saleh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRM View Post
    Liverpool play away to West Ham tomorrow night, Moyes desperate for points as they get sucked into the bottom 3, hopefully Liverpool suffer a few minor knocks and decide to start a few 1st team players winter breaks early before the weekend.

    We’re playing well away from home but no chance of winning this, draw would be incredible, hopefully a respectable score line but realistically 3-1 Liverpool
    Embarassing. atleast our players dont have this attitude.

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    I think Ralph May switch to three at the back for this one. Would always have been an option at Liverpool, but the right back situation may make that an easier decision and play JWP at right wing back. So I think it could be:
    Alex
    Stephens, Yoshida, Bednarek
    JWP, Romeu, PEH, Bertrand
    Boufal
    Ings, Obafemi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forester View Post
    I think Ralph May switch to three at the back for this one. Would always have been an option at Liverpool, but the right back situation may make that an easier decision and play JWP at right wing back. So I think it could be:
    Alex
    Stephens, Yoshida, Bednarek
    JWP, Romeu, PEH, Bertrand
    Boufal
    Ings, Obafemi
    Thought same thing earlier Liverpool threat is from full backs , wing backs stopping them getting forward and 3 in middle defending crosses


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    Quote Originally Posted by Forester View Post
    I think Ralph May switch to three at the back for this one. Would always have been an option at Liverpool, but the right back situation may make that an easier decision and play JWP at right wing back. So I think it could be:
    Alex
    Stephens, Yoshida, Bednarek
    JWP, Romeu, PEH, Bertrand
    Boufal
    Ings, Obafemi
    Boufal and Obafemi you having a laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forester View Post
    I think Ralph May switch to three at the back for this one. Would always have been an option at Liverpool, but the right back situation may make that an easier decision and play JWP at right wing back. So I think it could be:
    Alex
    Stephens, Yoshida, Bednarek
    JWP, Romeu, PEH, Bertrand
    Boufal
    Ings, Obafemi
    Redmond and Long instead of Boufal and Obafemi and you may be onto something there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Pete View Post
    Redmond and Long instead of Boufal and Obafemi and you may be onto something there.

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    Exactly this

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    IF we perform as we did in the recent weeks, or even better (RH: "We are getting better each week") then 1 or 3 points can be taken from Liverpool.

    But they are so strong, will be a challenge for the defense. Maybe a fast goal from Ings and, when they attack for the equalizer, make another one or two :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pilchards View Post
    Going for 5 straight away wins and to be honest with you we shouldn’t have any problems.
    Liverpool are not too good at home and they are certainly there for the taking.
    Usual 1-3 with Ings getting a couple.
    yeah, bout time Ings out a shift in.

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    Don’t think we’ll be taking any points from Klippity Klopp this weekend with a weakened team. A draw would be remarkable, but I reckon on 3-0 to the bin dippers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRM View Post
    Liverpool play away to West Ham tomorrow night, Moyes desperate for points as they get sucked into the bottom 3, hopefully Liverpool suffer a few minor knocks and decide to start a few 1st team players winter breaks early before the weekend.

    We’re playing well away from home but no chance of winning this, draw would be incredible, hopefully a respectable score line but realistically 3-1 Liverpool
    Pathetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Pete View Post
    Redmond and Long instead of Boufal and Obafemi and you may be onto something there.

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    That does solve the issue of not having a right back, and puts JWP slightly further forward. Yes I can see this, although changing the formation that has done us proud of late is risky. No Mané is definitely a plus for us, but they’ll still have enough quality. I’d love for us to give them a good game though. I think a loss, but not a bad one, maybe 3-2 to keep it exciting. Hojbjerg with a 30 yard screamer to open the scoring. Ings with our other.

    McCarthy, Stephens, Bednarek, Yoshida, JWP, Romeu, Hojbjerg, Bertrand, Redmond, Long, Ings. Subs: Gunn, Danso, Smallbone, Djenepo, Boufal, Adams, Obafemi.

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    The scouse win bubble has to burst at some stage just hope it is against us and not the bubble blowers tonight!!

    What a shame BFS didnt get the WHU gig .... he'd have had them on a diet of raw meat and given instructions to kick anything that moves!!

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    Would love to be the first team to beat them this season, think most world football fans would love us as well, but highly unlikely.

    A few things in our favour, them playing today so having less rest and Mane being likely out, but still a massive ask.

    I think we will give them trouble, we have shown we are a dangerous away team but I reckon they'll either fluke a goal, or get a wonder goal or some favourable VARing to get a 2-1 win.

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    If Armstrong is out that will be a big miss as his extra work rate will be needed in midfield.

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    I was honestly hopefully of getting at least a point for this one BUT having seen that Kevin 'Friend to the big clubs' is the ref, he will do everything in his powers to help the scousers. One of the most inept refs in the Prem & there is certainly a low bar!

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    I think we have to be compact at the back, like at Palace, Leicester and Chelsea as Liverpool are very good on the counter.

    So for me

    Mc Carthy
    JWP Stephens Bednarek Bertrand

    Djenepo Romeu PEH Redmond
    Ings Long

    Keep a solid back 8 and try long balls up the channels to Long to get their full backs looking over their shoulder

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    Let's go and make it as boring as possible, but still offer something going forward. I'd play almost a back 4 in front of the back 3, then let the front 3 just press as much as possible and stay forward. That pace will help if we're go get anything.

    Mccarthy
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    JWP Romeu Højbjerg Bertrand
    Long Ings Redmond

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    We play a very similar style to the Bindippers so maybe Ralph has been a very keen follower of Klopp's fashion. They will certainly not be taken by surprise by our aggressive in-their-faces style as they do exactly the same thing. This might come down to a match-up of quality, who can play keep ball longest and everyone as scared as **** to give it away at which Hojberg should excel.

    Might not turn out the way most expect, a draw is eminently possible 2-2 or 1-1 - it's hard to imagine them not scoring. First defeat for them this season is a pious hope 'though

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    I just want to give them a good game, get a goal, and not to get stuffed. If it's a 1 goal defeat then we've done pretty well and we move on.

    More concerned that the Spurs and Burnley games are so close and we really need to win both. Who do we rest. I'd imagine we'd play Ings in the league and rest him Wednesday. Maybe Obafemi v Spurs, back to Long/Ings for Burnley.

    This is really where we need extra midfielders as without Armstrong and with JWP right back we're screwed. I'd keep one of Boufal/Djenepo fresh for Spurs and start the other v Burnley, least that's one area we can change it up.

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    When sweepers were popular the way to counter them was to push one of the strikers on them – almost like having a striker marking a sweeper. It took away their time and space, and often their composure.

    Of course, VVD is much more than a sweeper. So much of Liverpool’s defensive shape and solidity revolves around him, and he’s the initial launch point for a lot of their attacks.

    It would be interesting to see how those things look if Long was snapping at VVD’s heels all through the game. It’s not like we’d be losing our main goal scoring threat by sacrificing Long like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenue_Saint View Post
    Pathetic
    I mean the dream is Liverpool get 4 men sent off and a couple of injuries but still manage to beat west ham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fookwit View Post
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    Thats us f....d then.

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    For those driving don't forget about the m27 closure this weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by hasper57saint View Post
    Thats us f....d then.
    Apparently Liverpool fans reckon he is terrible too

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    More concerned that the Spurs and Burnley games are so close and we really need to win both. Who do we rest. I'd imagine we'd play Ings in the league and rest him Wednesday. Maybe Obafemi v Spurs, back to Long/Ings for Burnley.

    This is really where we need extra midfielders a
    There is TEN days between them. How much rest do they need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenneth_kenobi View Post
    Apparently Liverpool fans reckon he is terrible too
    Their definition of terrible is probably that he only gives them a free kick/penalty 90% of the time Mohammed "Greg Luganis" Salah and company go to ground.

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    There's a spare ticket going. Friend of mine got one for me but I can't make it now. If anyone wants it I can put you in touch with him so you can meet outside the ground.

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    is kwp fit to play / is there enough time to get him up to speed if he is

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    Can’t see us getting anything from this tbh. Absolute best a draw but like I say can’t see it. No disgrace in that mind.

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    I have one of those feelings... they're going to batter us all game, we nick it with the last kick of the game. Van Dijk own goal off his penis.

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