Mr Saints Posted 30 March, 2019 Share Posted 30 March, 2019 Under Hasenhuttl Saints are averaging enough points per game for a top 8 finish over a 38 game season. Suggests the player quality wasn't the problem... it was the poor management choices of Pellegrino & Hughes. Of course I'd like Saints to spend in the summer but the squad is not as bad as many like to make out. Disagree. Our bench and backup options are Championship standard. That’s what packing out the squad with ****e leads to. A clearout is needed in the summer and I’m relieved Ralph will be spearheading it. Link to post Share on other sites
Plumstead_Saint Posted 30 March, 2019 Share Posted 30 March, 2019 Great result PEH's goal was massive. Nice to be playing meh and winning. And a clean sheet! Link to post Share on other sites
striker Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Wonder how long before Liverpool comes calling for PEH? Link to post Share on other sites
hasper57saint Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Well done Saints . Always happy to see Mr. Pundit proven wrong again. Great day to be a Saint. Link to post Share on other sites
supersonic Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Without counting our chickens, on the last day we're at home to Huddersfield whereas Cardiff are away to Man Utd so we should get 3 points more than them that day. That puts us 8 points ahead with only 6 games in between. I can't see Cardiff making up 8 points and a 15 goal swing in GD in 6 games on us... Link to post Share on other sites
Nordic Saint Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Wonder how long before Liverpool comes calling for PEH? Head of Sales, Les Reed has gone so there is no need to worry. Link to post Share on other sites
Pilchards Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Without counting our chickens, on the last day we're at home to Huddersfield whereas Cardiff are away to Man Utd so we should get 3 points more than them that day. That puts us 8 points ahead with only 6 games in between. I can't see Cardiff making up 8 points and a 15 goal swing in GD in 6 games on us... It makes sense but Huddersfield have no pressure now while Utd could have a champions league final on the mind. Link to post Share on other sites
alehouseboys Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Never a bad time to pop this one up unfortunately, only blind faith suggests we'll get anything out of this game Link to post Share on other sites
alehouseboys Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Never a bad time to pop this one up unfortunately, only blind faith suggests we'll get anything out of this game Needless to say, wrong thread! Link to post Share on other sites
skintsaint Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Vital win and things look a bit nicer down there now. The goal itself was very similar to a goal by RBL that was linked when RH was appointed. Let the opposition pass around and then close down quick when it gets tight, and spring forward at pace. Goal. Bit rocky at the end but again we see it out. Bring on Liverpool, most likely lose but anything else is a massive bonus! Link to post Share on other sites
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Wonder how long before Liverpool comes calling for PEH? They will come calling in........ let`s think...............................erm.............................. they wont Link to post Share on other sites
John Boy Saint Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 (edited) I couldn’t get a thread to work so was relying on here and Sky Soccer Saturday, just made me smile as Matty was on the Man U v Watford game, so he was commentating Watford’s last minute free kick. The free kick came to nowt ref in that game blew, no sooner had he said “that’s it game over” in the last bit of breath he cheers the final whistle in our game rather enthusiastically before Stelling could say anything. Edited 31 March, 2019 by John Boy Saint fat fingers everywhere and applemakeyoulookatitautocorrect everywhere! Link to post Share on other sites
markr27 Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 I couldn’t get. Thread to work so was relying on here and Sky Soccer Saturday, just made me smile as Marty was on the man U v Watford game, so he was comentating Watford’s last minute free kick. The free kick came to nowt ref in that game blew, no sooner had he said “that’s it game over” in the last bit of breath he cheers the final whistle in our game rather enthusiastically before Stelling can say anything. Charlie Nicholas was watching Brighton/Saints and in traditional fashion suddenly shouted "GOOAALLLLL!" An arm started waving hysterically, visible to the extreme left of the screen, gave a small clue which way it had gone..... Link to post Share on other sites
saint1977 Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Without counting our chickens, on the last day we're at home to Huddersfield whereas Cardiff are away to Man Utd so we should get 3 points more than them that day. That puts us 8 points ahead with only 6 games in between. I can't see Cardiff making up 8 points and a 15 goal swing in GD in 6 games on us... Plus we have Bournemouth and Wolves home - not easy but certainly you’d expect a bit more hunger from the team to win those. West Ham away not impossible to get something either. Only gimme Cardiff have is Fulham home and that’s a few games away, inbetween what they have is nasty. Chelsea today are unpredictable - Cardiff could turn them over, but the long term injuries to key players is hurting them. Link to post Share on other sites
LGTL Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Turgid game but who cares, massive 3 points and a brilliant day! Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Wayman Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 3 points is all that matters Link to post Share on other sites
macca155 Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Saints aren't going down, forget that. Much easier run in and a better side than Cardiff, Burnley, or Brighton. Last 20 mins was hard work yesterday. Squeaky bum time as Brighton threw everything at us. That was always going to happen, as they are fighting for survival now. I thought Stephens did well when he came on. Quite a few important interceptions. He has had a rough few months so good to rebuild his confidence. We are an injury away from needing him. Armstrong had a great game as did all the midfielders. Romeo put his body on the line in every tackle. Unsung hero. Gallagher was told to be a nuisance and he was. I rate Dale Stephens and he actually had to do some work for the last 15 mins. However standout for me was Sims. Only on the pitch for a short while but he looked the business, and was causing a lot of problems. So next year buy Dale Stephens (or similar) one or two strikers, a back up RB and we are sorted. Maybe RH will take a look at Carillo. I feel a lot better than a few weeks ago. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
beatlesaint Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Only gimme Cardiff have is Fulham home and that’s a few games away. Its away to Fulham......so might be a bit tougher for them Link to post Share on other sites
saint1977 Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Its away to Fulham......so might be a bit tougher for them Fulham need to turn up wherever it is - and on the evidence of yesterday (I know it was City) Cardiff would be favourites. Still, if Saints keep this up it should all be academic anyway. Vital 3 points yesterday, pretty goal but not a pretty game. Saints better first half, Brighton threw everything at it last 30. Bar Montoya’s shot, not that many clear cut chances but the back four and Gunn absorbed the pressure really well. Link to post Share on other sites
shurlock Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Saints aren't going down, forget that. Much easier run in and a better side than Cardiff, Burnley, or Brighton. Last 20 mins was hard work yesterday. Squeaky bum time as Brighton threw everything at us. That was always going to happen, as they are fighting for survival now. I thought Stephens did well when he came on. Quite a few important interceptions. He has had a rough few months so good to rebuild his confidence. We are an injury away from needing him. Armstrong had a great game as did all the midfielders. Romeo put his body on the line in every tackle. Unsung hero. Gallagher was told to be a nuisance and he was. I rate Dale Stephens and he actually had to do some work for the last 15 mins. However standout for me was Sims. Only on the pitch for a short while but he looked the business, and was causing a lot of problems. So next year buy Dale Stephens (or similar) one or two strikers, a back up RB and we are sorted. Maybe RH will take a look at Carillo. I feel a lot better than a few weeks ago. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk From the Brighton fans at the game yesterday, they’d love for us to buy Stephens. He was getting plenty of abuse. We can do better (and frankly it’s not a position of need). Link to post Share on other sites
Dalek2003 Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 How many points to stay up this year? 39? 40? Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Fulham need to turn up wherever it is - and on the evidence of yesterday (I know it was City) Cardiff would be favourites. Still, if Saints keep this up it should all be academic anyway. Vital 3 points yesterday, pretty goal but not a pretty game. Saints better first half, Brighton threw everything at it last 30. Bar Montoya’s shot, not that many clear cut chances but the back four and Gunn absorbed the pressure really well. Only saw the highlights to MOTD but there was a worrying spillage from a cross. McCarthy or Forster would have been given relentless flak for that. Link to post Share on other sites
Saint Pete Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Only saw the highlights to MOTD but there was a worrying spillage from a cross. McCarthy or Forster would have been given relentless flak for that.Yes he shouldn't have come for that cross, too far out. Almost resulted in a pen to Brighton. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Colinjb Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 From the Brighton fans at the game yesterday, they’d love for us to buy Stephens. He was getting plenty of abuse. We can do better (and frankly it’s not a position of need). Remembering him from his loan spell here in 2011, nothing about him then told me he would ever be able to play in the top flight. Fair play to him for making the most of his ability but, wouldn't improve us. Link to post Share on other sites
Instant Classic Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Was anyone else tempted by Brighton at 200/1 on 89 minutes? I didn't do it but it was mighty tempting. Link to post Share on other sites
Instant Classic Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Remembering him from his loan spell here in 2011, nothing about him then told me he would ever be able to play in the top flight. Fair play to him for making the most of his ability but, wouldn't improve us. I have no memory of his loan spell here and I'm Aspergers so I usually remember pretty much everything. (#playingthecard). I knew the name and knew he'd been with us in some way shape or form but I actually thought he was one that came out of our academy and left having made the odd cup appearance here and there. Link to post Share on other sites
Lighthouse Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Remembering him from his loan spell here in 2011, nothing about him then told me he would ever be able to play in the top flight. Fair play to him for making the most of his ability but, wouldn't improve us. I mainly remember him from a midweek trip to Rochdale, where he was completely outclassed in the middle and we lost. That was a crap away day, didn't even make it to a pub. Link to post Share on other sites
Vienna07 Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Ralph, really gets the most out of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites
shurlock Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 I mainly remember him from a midweek trip to Rochdale, where he was completely outclassed in the middle and we lost. That was a crap away day, didn't even make it to a pub. Spent the night in the 24hr Tesco Superstore. Not one of our finest awaydays. Link to post Share on other sites
stknowle Posted 31 March, 2019 Share Posted 31 March, 2019 Ralph, really gets the most out of the squad. He most certainly does my old Austrian pal. Link to post Share on other sites
captainchris Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 You rate Gallagher and want Ralph to give Carillo a chance!! Made me smile broadly.... From the Brighton fans at the game yesterday, they’d love for us to buy Stephens. He was getting plenty of abuse. We can do better (and frankly it’s not a position of need). Link to post Share on other sites
shurlock Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 (edited) You rate Gallagher and want Ralph to give Carillo a chance!! Made me smile broadly.... Where did I say I rated Gallagher, you utter clown? Perhaps Ralph could run the rule over Carrillo when we are relying on options like Gallagher and he’s got more out of our players than previous managers. Of course, it remains a pretty damning assessment of our transfer record and squad depth that I’m even saying this as I’ve always maintained Carrillo’s shown very little and to date goes down as one of our worst signings ever. Needless to say, you’re likely too dim to understand that there’s no contradiction between the two statements. Edited 1 April, 2019 by shurlock Link to post Share on other sites
Bourne Valley Saint Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 Seems that quite a few on here take no pride in our youngsters making it to the first team at all. "Not good enough" "Championship players" "Send them out on loan" "Get rid of" etc. I for one am delighted that the club were able to include 7 former academy players in the match day squad, 6 of whom played a part in the 1-0 win. I doubt that any other premiership (or even Championship) club can boast of such a percentage of players taking part. These are still young players who will undoubtedly improve if given game time. Embrace and encourage them rather than wishing to discard them. Link to post Share on other sites
stevegrant Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 Only saw the highlights to MOTD but there was a worrying spillage from a cross. McCarthy or Forster would have been given relentless flak for that. I think the lead in both McCarthy and Forster's boots would have prevented them from even attempting to come and take that cross, tbf. Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 I think the lead in both McCarthy and Forster's boots would have prevented them from even attempting to come and take that cross, tbf. Forster I'd agree on, it must be difficult to get that spring and lift to collect the ball when it appears you're playing in wellies most of the time. Bit unfair on McCarthy who once he came into the team last season showed a willingness to come for crosses. Perhaps Watson has coached that out of him since then though. Link to post Share on other sites
Dellman Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 Seems that quite a few on here take no pride in our youngsters making it to the first team at all. "Not good enough" "Championship players" "Send them out on loan" "Get rid of" etc. I for one am delighted that the club were able to include 7 former academy players in the match day squad, 6 of whom played a part in the 1-0 win. I doubt that any other premiership (or even Championship) club can boast of such a percentage of players taking part. These are still young players who will undoubtedly improve if given game time. Embrace and encourage them rather than wishing to discard them. Couldn't agree more. Really unhealthy hostility on here to our own players, I keep thinking it must be fans from down the road, not our own. Link to post Share on other sites
Lighthouse Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 Seems that quite a few on here take no pride in our youngsters making it to the first team at all. "Not good enough" "Championship players" "Send them out on loan" "Get rid of" etc. I for one am delighted that the club were able to include 7 former academy players in the match day squad, 6 of whom played a part in the 1-0 win. I doubt that any other premiership (or even Championship) club can boast of such a percentage of players taking part. These are still young players who will undoubtedly improve if given game time. Embrace and encourage them rather than wishing to discard them. You have a point but JWP and Valery are the only two I actually take pride in seeing play. Gallagher really isn't a Premier League player and will probably end up in League 1. Targett is alright as back-up but that really is a kind way of saying he's a Championship player. May well end up at Fulham afterall. Sims looked good against Spurs but has been very much hit and miss and needs to do something consistently. They're the only academy players I can think of in the squad. You can't count Stephens, he was 17/18 when he joined us and had already made first team appearances for Plymouth. That's 5 academy players, 3 of which would be nowhere near our squad if the other options we have weren't so poor. Link to post Share on other sites
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 Seems that quite a few on here take no pride in our youngsters making it to the first team at all. "Not good enough" "Championship players" "Send them out on loan" "Get rid of" etc. I for one am delighted that the club were able to include 7 former academy players in the match day squad, 6 of whom played a part in the 1-0 win. I doubt that any other premiership (or even Championship) club can boast of such a percentage of players taking part. These are still young players who will undoubtedly improve if given game time. Embrace and encourage them rather than wishing to discard them. Totally on the money. It infuriates me seeing our players get slated in here. The academy is one reason why we differentiate ourselves from the tedious top six. Link to post Share on other sites
simo Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 Anyone got a link to the goal ? Link to post Share on other sites
OttawaSaint Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 Anyone got a link to the goal ? Link to post Share on other sites
austsaint Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 You have a point but JWP and Valery are the only two I actually take pride in seeing play. Gallagher really isn't a Premier League player and will probably end up in League 1. Targett is alright as back-up but that really is a kind way of saying he's a Championship player. May well end up at Fulham afterall. Sims looked good against Spurs but has been very much hit and miss and needs to do something consistently. They're the only academy players I can think of in the squad. You can't count Stephens, he was 17/18 when he joined us and had already made first team appearances for Plymouth. That's 5 academy players, 3 of which would be nowhere near our squad if the other options we have weren't so poor. Agree with your comments - yet hard on Josh Sims; that half he played v Spurs was exceptional and by any measure, even with tactical considerations he should have been rewarded on merit with more playing time. Difficult to "do something consistently" if you turn in a match changing performance one week and barely feature the next (game. Link to post Share on other sites
austsaint Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 You have a point but JWP and Valery are the only two I actually take pride in seeing play. Gallagher really isn't a Premier League player and will probably end up in League 1. Targett is alright as back-up but that really is a kind way of saying he's a Championship player. May well end up at Fulham afterall. Sims looked good against Spurs but has been very much hit and miss and needs to do something consistently. They're the only academy players I can think of in the squad. You can't count Stephens, he was 17/18 when he joined us and had already made first team appearances for Plymouth. That's 5 academy players, 3 of which would be nowhere near our squad if the other options we have weren't so poor. Agree with your comments - yet hard on Josh Sims; the half he played v Spurs was exceptional and by any measure, even with tactical considerations he should have been rewarded on merit with more playing time. Difficult to "do something consistently" if you turn in a match changing performance one week and barely feature the next (game). Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Bateman Posted 1 April, 2019 Share Posted 1 April, 2019 I think the lead in both McCarthy and Forster's boots would have prevented them from even attempting to come and take that cross, tbf. Absolutely. And anyone sticking up for Gallagher; sorry, but he's not a Premier League footballer. He's better than we all are at football, granted, but I think we've seen his level; which is lower than Saints are at. Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Munster Posted 2 April, 2019 Share Posted 2 April, 2019 I think the lead in both McCarthy and Forster's boots would have prevented them from even attempting to come and take that cross, tbf. Give him time. Dave Watson is currently working hard to also fill young Gunn's boots with lead. Link to post Share on other sites
supersonic Posted 2 April, 2019 Share Posted 2 April, 2019 I have no memory of his loan spell here and I'm Aspergers so I usually remember pretty much everything. (#playingthecard). I knew the name and knew he'd been with us in some way shape or form but I actually thought he was one that came out of our academy and left having made the odd cup appearance here and there. He was here during the ‘Sash’ season I believe. Really nothing special, always thought he was a more limited version of Dean Hammond. Really surprised he’s made it to the PL bit fair play to the lad. Link to post Share on other sites
captainchris Posted 2 April, 2019 Share Posted 2 April, 2019 Where did I say I rated Gallagher, you utter clown? Perhaps Ralph could run the rule over Carrillo when we are relying on options like Gallagher and he’s got more out of our players than previous managers. Of course, it remains a pretty damning assessment of our transfer record and squad depth that I’m even saying this as I’ve always maintained Carrillo’s shown very little and to date goes down as one of our worst signings ever. Needless to say, you’re likely too dim to understand that there’s no contradiction between the two statements. You are an extremely rude bitter individual. Link to post Share on other sites
S-Clarke Posted 2 April, 2019 Share Posted 2 April, 2019 I thought we'd draw this. So this result was a surprise and a massive boost. To get 6 points from the last two games is massive and probably does it for us, I didn't see that happening when we lost to Cardiff at home! I think we only need 1 win from our remaining 6. Maybe 1 win and a draw at a push, but it's fine. Link to post Share on other sites
Lighthouse Posted 2 April, 2019 Share Posted 2 April, 2019 Agree with your comments - yet hard on Josh Sims; that half he played v Spurs was exceptional and by any measure, even with tactical considerations he should have been rewarded on merit with more playing time. Difficult to "do something consistently" if you turn in a match changing performance one week and barely feature the next (game. I said he was very good (although I think exceptional is going a bit OTT) what I said is he will have to do it consistently. A couple of assists 2 years ago are about all he’s really got to go on before that. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSAINT Posted 2 April, 2019 Share Posted 2 April, 2019 I thought we'd draw this. So this result was a surprise and a massive boost. To get 6 points from the last two games is massive and probably does it for us, I didn't see that happening when we lost to Cardiff at home! I think we only need 1 win from our remaining 6. Maybe 1 win and a draw at a push, but it's fine. That f*cking game. I still don't think I've recovered from that game. I thought we'd totally blown it around that time. Link to post Share on other sites
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