SuperSAINT Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 26 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: Blackmore is not complete gospel, No smoke without fire. And I highly doubt Bild, kicker to all be wrong about our interest. Nixon reported interest too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 17 minutes ago, NorthLondonSFC said: Mate of mine is involved with Chelsea, sent me a message today saying they’ve put an offer in for Bednarek. Tell your mate, "Sorry pal but we are not a selling club" .........and no way will we take Lampard in p/ex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, NorthLondonSFC said: Mate of mine is involved with Chelsea, sent me a message today saying they’ve put an offer in for Bednarek. So he is in a role where he is important enough to be kept in the loop of transfer bids, yet he is not professional enough to not tell his mates. You've got to wonder how he got such a role if that is what he does with important information. 🤔 Edited 8 August, 2020 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 2 hours ago, NorthLondonSFC said: Mate of mine is involved with Chelsea, sent me a message today saying they’ve put an offer in for Bednarek. Their defence is poor, but that's more to do with their manager being clueless about how to set them up. Individually, all Chelsea's CBs are better than Bednarek - and they've got Ampadu to return from on loan too. Pretty dubious about that link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 Eminently believable that Bednarek or Vestergaard will move on this summer. Both of them (and Stephens) have two years left on contacts. Given the prices of CBs recently Bednarek, with 65 premier League games played should be 30-40 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: So he is in a role where he is important enough to be kept in the loop of transfer bids, yet he is not professional enough to not tell his mates. You've got to wonder how he got such a role if that is what he does with important information. 🤔 You'd be amazed how loose lipped some people are, however important their role is. One recently ish departed senior person at our club was, and I've since heard things that flow from within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 5 minutes ago, Nolan said: Eminently believable that Bednarek or Vestergaard will move on this summer. Both of them (and Stephens) have two years left on contacts. Given the prices of CBs recently Bednarek, with 65 premier League games played should be 30-40 million. Selling Bednarek and keeping Vestergaard would be football suicide. That's why that won't happen, if anyone else leaves from the back 4 it's Vestergaard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 11 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Selling Bednarek and keeping Vestergaard would be football suicide. That's why that won't happen, if anyone else leaves from the back 4 it's Vestergaard. That's got to be right. Vestergaard is a shocker and any sensible bid for him should see him go you'd think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 12 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Selling Bednarek and keeping Vestergaard would be football suicide. That's why that won't happen, if anyone else leaves from the back 4 it's Vestergaard. Unless salisu is expected to take his starting spot and bednarek has asked his agent to find him a move... Or the Austrian chap (or another CB) is joining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 The whole point is we get players we sell them for more. At the moment, that's most likely Bednarek. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 18 minutes ago, Nolan said: The whole point is we get players we sell them for more. At the moment, that's most likely Bednarek. Defence is the weakest part of our team and all of our centre backs are mediocre at best, JB included. He won’t be going to Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 Can see Bednarek signing a new contract in the coming weeks, certainly deserves it. Still very young for a PL CB with the appearances he has. His best years are still to come and cant see us selling unless the offer is silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 Bednarek must be on peanuts relative to others as is still on his initial contract when he was young and unproven. I am very suprised he hasn't signed a new contract before now, so the possibility that he doesn't want to cannot be ruled out. Hope he does but if he won't then this summer or next Jan would probably be his highest point in terms of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 On 02/08/2020 at 18:12, Turkish said: Just got a text from my contact, seems like things are happening. I can’t say much but I can share the following.... Salisu is done, work permit due this week. We’re also close to signing talented Spanish full back from Spain. Hojbjerg move to spurs getting closer but spurs yet to meet our valuation, once it’s done expect us to move for a VERY highly rated American playing in the bundesliga , he wouldn’t give me his name but I understand he’s a top player. Club still keen on KWP but may look elsewhere, he thinks Ralph is a fan of Cash at Forest. other news hoedt may be off to a Belgian club, no further news on Vestergaard leaving but club think he will go and when he does we will replace. also expect two key players to sign new contracts soon. I’ll share any other snippets soon as I am allowed to tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 (edited) Why are we linked with Harry Wilson. I’ve no idea what position or if he’s any good? Edited 8 August, 2020 by Pilchards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 Just now, Pilchards said: Why are we linked with Harry Wilson. Because Football Insider used their random dartboard of rumours to make another clickbait article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 3 hours ago, Dusic said: Bednarek must be on peanuts relative to others as is still on his initial contract when he was young and unproven. Contracts can be structured so they improve each year and/or if criteria is met. So he probably isn't on his original wage atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 (edited) https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2020/as-monaco-are-in-talks-to-sign-weston-mckennie-from-schalke/ Looks like McKennie will move sooner rather than later, so we will see if Blackmore's info that we aren't in for him is correct - it usually is. https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Transferts-monaco-piste-weston-mckennie-milieu-de-schalke-04/1159438 If we do like him then its not a suprise Mitchell does as well - we have been in for lots of the same players since he left, most recently Disasi. Edited 8 August, 2020 by Dusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 8 August, 2020 Share Posted 8 August, 2020 Just now, Matthew Le God said: Contracts can be structured so they improve each year and/or if criteria is met. So he probably isn't on his original wage atm. Yes, they can also increase during the year - eg £30k pw but if 10 appearances it becomes £40k, and for 20+ it becomes £50k. He came in as a relative unknown and something incremental would have been sensible. That said, I have no idea what contract Bednarek is on, and as he only has 2 years left if we want to keep him, he'll likely need a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 9 hours ago, Dusic said: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2020/as-monaco-are-in-talks-to-sign-weston-mckennie-from-schalke/ Looks like McKennie will move sooner rather than later, so we will see if Blackmore's info that we aren't in for him is correct - it usually is. https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Transferts-monaco-piste-weston-mckennie-milieu-de-schalke-04/1159438 If we do like him then its not a suprise Mitchell does as well - we have been in for lots of the same players since he left, most recently Disasi. I actually thought we were in for him, but Blackmore’s info but the brakes on that, which is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 Saints possibly in negotiation tactics/games for Weston McKennie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Saints possibly in negotiation tactics/games for Weston McKennie... "#Schalke - #Southampton will (initially) withdraw from advertising for Weston #McKennie. The English are not ready to pay more than 15 million euros for #McKennie, and there is a gap in terms of “salary expectations” (Southampton offers less due to lack of PL experience)" Seems like it. I know we all want to go out and spend loads of money but maybe the salary demands are insane. Enter West Ham I suppose. Edited 9 August, 2020 by TWar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 2 minutes ago, TWar said: "#Schalke - #Southampton will (initially) withdraw from advertising for Weston #McKennie. The English are not ready to pay more than 15 million euros for #McKennie, and there is a gap in terms of “salary expectations” (Southampton offers less due to lack of PL experience)" Seems like it. I know we all want to go out and spend loads of money but maybe the salary demands are insane. Enter West Ham I suppose. West Ham or Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 (edited) Buyer start low and prepare to raise offer Seller start high and prepare to reduce offer All fun and games in negotiations. It doesn't mean Saints are out of it. Edited 9 August, 2020 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's There Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 The wording of The tweet from AB suggests we have not bid for Weston M. It doesn't mean we not interested and in conversation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 I'm pretty relaxed about the PEH replacement. Club have known for ages that he would be off so they've had plenty of time and probably have more than one target they're working on. Weston McKenzie did sound pretty good but won't be long before there's another link to someone unknown that sounds even better. Normally AB is pretty spot on with these things so I don't think WM is gonna happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 29 minutes ago, It's There said: The wording of The tweet from AB suggests we have not bid for Weston M. It doesn't mean we not interested and in conversation... Apparently he’s on surprisingly high wages at Schalke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 16 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Apparently he’s on surprisingly high wages at Schalke... Probably why they’re happy to get rid. And also why we won’t sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 Tenuous Sunday link to West Ham’s Diangana: https://tbrfootball.com/report-southampton-in-race-to-sign-west-hams-grady-diangana/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 55 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Apparently he’s on surprisingly high wages at Schalke... €50k a week my sources tell me. Shalke are in trouble financially and are introducing a salary cap, he is right on it, plus they need to sell to raise funds. I’d imagine he’ll be wanting a big pay rise to come to the premier league hence why there is a gap between that and what we’ll pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 Well if he wants money than he’ll be ok at Monaco. we need to sell him the shop window approach, PEH being the example. Give us a couple of years and you’ll get the big big bucks on the move then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 3 minutes ago, EBS1980 said: Well if he wants money than he’ll be ok at Monaco. we need to sell him the shop window approach, PEH being the example. Give us a couple of years and you’ll get the big big bucks on the move then To be fair, Monaco can play the same game too. It's not a massively unique position, as there are plenty of clubs around the world which players can use as shop windows. Dortmund, Monaco, Ajax, RB Leipzig - far better options if one of those comes in for you, as you'll be in the shop window in major European competition. If Monaco are in for him then there is nothing we can offer really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 6 minutes ago, EBS1980 said: Well if he wants money than he’ll be ok at Monaco. we need to sell him the shop window approach, PEH being the example. Give us a couple of years and you’ll get the big big bucks on the move then Supposedly he wants to come to the premier league so you’d have thought Monaco wouldn’t be in with much of a chance. He also supposedly doesn’t want to go to a top club just yet as he wants to be sure to play. So lots of things appear to be in our favour, as he seems to want the shop window type approach we can offer him, I guess It’ll come down to if there are any other offers on the table better then ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: Supposedly he wants to come to the premier league so you’d have thought Monaco wouldn’t be in with much of a chance. He also supposedly doesn’t want to go to a top club just yet as he wants to be sure to play. So lots of things appear to be in our favour, as he seems to want the shop window type approach we can offer him, I guess It’ll come down to if there are any other offers on the table better then ours. For sure, Premier League could be our only chance really, if he's really keen on that. I just can't see it happening, not sure we have the money for it to be honest. We'd need to shift a few first and I'm not sure he's hanging around for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 55 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: To be fair, Monaco can play the same game too. It's not a massively unique position, as there are plenty of clubs around the world which players can use as shop windows. Dortmund, Monaco, Ajax, RB Leipzig - far better options if one of those comes in for you, as you'll be in the shop window in major European competition. If Monaco are in for him then there is nothing we can offer really. Can something be “massively unique”? Asking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: To be fair, Monaco can play the same game too. It's not a massively unique position, as there are plenty of clubs around the world which players can use as shop windows. Dortmund, Monaco, Ajax, RB Leipzig - far better options if one of those comes in for you, as you'll be in the shop window in major European competition. If Monaco are in for him then there is nothing we can offer really. Monaco finished 9th in 2019/20 They are not in a major European competition in 2020/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 Not sure why anyone would want to live in Monaco rather than Southampton. It's not like they have West Quay and easy access to the New Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Cat said: Not sure why anyone would want to live in Monaco rather than Southampton. It's not like they have West Quay and easy access to the New Forest. Tax status perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 1 hour ago, The Cat said: Not sure why anyone would want to live in Monaco rather than Southampton. It's not like they have West Quay and easy access to the New Forest. Don't forget Bedford place and a slap up meal at Zorbas. Who could resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Monaco finished 9th in 2019/20 They are not in a major European competition in 2020/21 Yeah, but they are richer than us. And much more likely to qualify for Europe in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 5 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Saints possibly in negotiation tactics/games for Weston McKennie... I thought you didn't believe that football clubs and chairmen take notice and play games with the media in negotiations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 6 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Buyer start low and prepare to raise offer Seller start high and prepare to reduce offer All fun and games in negotiations. It doesn't mean Saints are out of it. Someone did a GCSE in business studies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 49 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: I thought you didn't believe that football clubs and chairmen take notice and play games with the media in negotiations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 3 hours ago, The Cat said: Not sure why anyone would want to live in Monaco rather than Southampton. It's not like they have West Quay and easy access to the New Forest. They don't actually live in Monaco. They live in France and pretend that they lo e in Monaco. They go to all sorts of lengths to make it look as though they do, automatic light switches and suchlike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said: I thought you didn't believe that football clubs and chairmen take notice and play games with the media in negotiations? I'm not sure what about that post makes you think I think otherwise? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 11 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: First Zeefuik and now McKennie, Hertha are becoming our nemesis this window! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 7 minutes ago, TWar said: First Zeefuik and now McKennie, Hertha are becoming our nemesis this window! Unlike zeefiulk though Kckennies preference is England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 Hertha I think have had a huge amount of investment. Might be why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 9 August, 2020 Share Posted 9 August, 2020 From reading the reports from Germany and also Blackmore's snippet (and we know where that came from) I am inclined to believe we are/were interested but are also realistic that we aren't going to be spending €25m on anyone this summer and have a wage structure that we won't break for anyone apart from Big Fraser. With other interest and the timing of Blackmore's info it must be highly unlikely that we sign him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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