SaintRichmond Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 Not really. Def missed out on A which seems to be a wholly unrealistic Hernandez, but then maybe some realism took over. No one has quite managed, while saying how awful this is, to convince me of any other worth while targets with the requisite PL experience (Hypo - Koeman has confirmed that this was an important factor) and who was affordable and wanted to come here. And why are people going on and on about resale value?[/QUOTE] I expect it is because a lot think that we will be going through the same old "knock the house down and build it up again" scenario Contracts SHOULD mean what they say, sadly they are only as good as the escape clauses The Sweet F A are at fault. They should have addressed this problem long ago Schneiderlin is a prime example. Signs a long contract with the verbal agreement he can leave within a year ?? Why sign the Contract in the first place, if you know it is your intention to break it. I'd love it if Leibherr/Krueger made him actuall "honour" his contract. And if he throws his toys out of the pram, then LET HIM ROY Sadly, no owner has the Bottle to do that, but it is the only action that will ever bring sanity back to Player Contracts and Transfers IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 Lowdown (with added WBA input):- http://georgeweahscousin.com/2014/08/14/the-long-and-the-short-of-it-shane-is-a-saint/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 I think Long has a lot of attributes we were missing last season. Pace, movement off the ball, somebody who can get behind defenses. Without J-Rod we need that. Think he'll do well. Quoted price is crazy,but who knows what the real price is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 £12m seems high but if he gets the goals we will all forget it. If we had paid £12m for Bambi Wellbeck then I would be worried why would he get the goals? hes never scored ten in a season ever we obviously didn't buy him for that role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 why would he get the goals? hes never scored ten in a season ever we obviously didn't buy him for that role You are of course right in that he has not scored more than 10. This season he is not playing as an out and out striker, that is Pelle's job as RK said yesterday so he might not get 10 this season. But I (mostly) trust the scouting network (esp when Chief Execs aren't interfering) and if they have seen something that we need - which £12m suggests that they obviously have - then I'm fine with that and I'l refer to hindsight later on down the path to judge as to whether he is worth it. I would find it very hard to believe that he can be any worse value than Osvaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 why would he get the goals? hes never scored ten in a season ever we obviously didn't buy him for that role I think maybe it's better to say if he's involved in a lot of goals then he's justified his price tag, there's more to Long's game than just scoring, hence why we paid a lot for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 I think maybe it's better to say if he's involved in a lot of goals then he's justified his price tag, there's more to Long's game than just scoring, hence why we paid a lot for him. agreed we brought him for the huge workrate off the ball and he has a little pace apparently, lets just hope he isnt another brett omerod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/vine-shane-long-impresses-on-first-day-with-southampton-with-beautiful-control-and-volley-finish-30511064.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/vine-shane-long-impresses-on-first-day-with-southampton-with-beautiful-control-and-volley-finish-30511064.html Looked offside to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/vine-shane-long-impresses-on-first-day-with-southampton-with-beautiful-control-and-volley-finish-30511064.html Kelvin beaten at his near post. Suprising that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 Pretty rubbish signing, he is very average on FM14 so going on that basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 We are going to rip Liverpool a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 Looked offside to me. Ditto..Whats the point of pace if always offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 Hopefully he'll be a sort of opposite Kevin Davis. Good Luck Shane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 I have to laugh when people question his resale value ! I don't think there is any team which has profited as much as Saints in the transfer market in recent years, even accounting for 2 demotions and an administration, we have still managed a very healthy plus in terms of youth development and player trading in general ! All this whilst including the odd shocker like Osvaldo too ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 (edited) I have to laugh when people question his resale value ! I don't think there is any team which has profited as much as Saints in the transfer market in recent years, even accounting for 2 demotions and an administration, we have still managed a very healthy plus in terms of youth development and player trading in general ! All this whilst including the odd shocker like Osvaldo too ! Newcastle and Arsenal do very much alright. (Well, barring Arsenal's spend the last two seasons they were doing very well.) Edited 15 August, 2014 by farawaysaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 One big plus with Long, he was brought up as a kid playing Gaelic sports, football and hurling, very physical fast sports where body checks, shoulder charges are happening all the time. That makes him such a hand full as he is strong and physical as well as fast, so enjoys mixing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 One big plus with Long, he was brought up as a kid playing Gaelic sports, football and hurling, very physical fast sports where body checks, shoulder charges are happening all the time. That makes him such a hand full as he is strong and physical as well as fast, so enjoys mixing it. I think you have to be a little bit mad to play hurling. Really an all or nothing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 15 August, 2014 Share Posted 15 August, 2014 I think you have to be a little bit mad to play hurling. Really an all or nothing game. I played both when I was young. Great character building, but highly likely to get a slap now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 (edited) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2730291/Steve-Bruce-eyeing-12m-rated-Blackburn-striker-Jordan-Rhodes.html So the £12m we gave Hull, seems that it might be going on Jordan Rhodes. Rhodes, aged 24, scored 25 last season and 28 the season before (I think that the most Long got was 21). Out of interest, would people have preferred Rhodes to Long? Edited 20 August, 2014 by angelman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 20 August, 2014 Share Posted 20 August, 2014 (edited) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2730291/Steve-Bruce-eyeing-12m-rated-Blackburn-striker-Jordan-Rhodes.html So the £12m we gave Hull, seems that it might be going on Jordan Rhodes. Rhodes, aged 24, scored 25 last season and 28 the season before (I think that the most Long got was 21). Out of interest, would people have preferred Rhodes to Long? Different types of player, Long, as has been discussed isn't all about the goals but rather chance creation through being a general nuisance. Rhodes would (if we were to have bought him) be instead of Pelle and if one were to discount resale value in the future, then, at present I'd rather have Pelle... Edited 20 August, 2014 by JxgrSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2014 Share Posted 21 August, 2014 Different types of player, Long, as has been discussed isn't all about the goals but rather chance creation through being a general nuisance. Rhodes would (if we were to have bought him) be instead of Pelle and if one were to discount resale value in the future, then, at present I'd rather have Pelle... Not that I disagree but what is rather having pelle based on? We don't really know anything about pelle he is a bit of an unknown truth be told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 21 August, 2014 Share Posted 21 August, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2730291/Steve-Bruce-eyeing-12m-rated-Blackburn-striker-Jordan-Rhodes.html So the £12m we gave Hull, seems that it might be going on Jordan Rhodes. Rhodes, aged 24, scored 25 last season and 28 the season before (I think that the most Long got was 21). Out of interest, would people have preferred Rhodes to Long? calling PASTOR PATRON to this thread, he has Jordan Rhodes posters in his room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 21 August, 2014 Share Posted 21 August, 2014 Absolutely not. Rhodes gets goals but his allround game and movement isn't PL class and he certainly wouldnt fit our style. There is a reason no PL team has gone for him despite an excellent record at that level for 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 21 August, 2014 Share Posted 21 August, 2014 Could we just sell Hull Mayuka for £11m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2014 Share Posted 21 August, 2014 Rhodes isn't the sort of striker we'd be after, end of. And he will cost more than £12m seeing as Blackburn paid that for him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 27 March, 2017 Share Posted 27 March, 2017 Been getting a fair amount of praise for his actions in Coleman's injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 27 March, 2017 Share Posted 27 March, 2017 Been getting a fair amount of praise for his actions in Coleman's injury. Pregnancy breathing techniques, apparently, to help Seamus breathe through the shock of the injury and the pain. Good for you, Shane. Those classes with the missus came in useful here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 27 March, 2017 Share Posted 27 March, 2017 Been getting a fair amount of praise for his actions in Coleman's injury. So, he can sing and he's now a recognised first aider. Would appreciate a few goals in his repertoire though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 27 March, 2017 Share Posted 27 March, 2017 So, he can sing and he's now a recognised first aider. Would appreciate a few goals in his repertoire though. Goal in second leg of semi was quite handy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 28 March, 2017 Share Posted 28 March, 2017 Goal in second leg of semi was quite handy! Well he had to get one of those chases sooner or later...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 28 March, 2017 Share Posted 28 March, 2017 *chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 28 March, 2017 Share Posted 28 March, 2017 Goal in second leg of semi was quite handy! Yeah but apart from that we've had 3 league goals and one against Norwich. That's poor, no other word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 March, 2017 Share Posted 29 March, 2017 Funny how soon a post praising Long's actions gets turned into an attack on him. You couldn't make it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 29 March, 2017 Share Posted 29 March, 2017 Funny how soon a post praising Long's actions gets turned into an attack on him. You couldn't make it up! Indeed! It's difficult to score goals when you're sat on the bench or jogging up and down the touchline. Maybe some so-called Saints fans need the rules spelling out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 March, 2017 Share Posted 29 March, 2017 Funny how soon a post praising Long's actions gets turned into an attack on him. You couldn't make it up! Where are these attacks? Certainly not much evidence on this thread. Really you have apparently made it up. There are some odd posters who seem to think any criticism of a player should not be allowed, even in a light hearted way. Really very simplistic view on being a supporter of a football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 29 March, 2017 Share Posted 29 March, 2017 Where are these attacks? Certainly not much evidence on this thread. Really you have apparently made it up. There are some odd posters who seem to think any criticism of a player should not be allowed, even in a light hearted way. Really very simplistic view on being a supporter of a football club. :rolleyes:Standard for the usual suspects on here. We have a lot of pompey fans in disguise I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 29 March, 2017 Share Posted 29 March, 2017 Where are these attacks? Certainly not much evidence on this thread. Really you have apparently made it up. There are some odd posters who seem to think any criticism of a player should not be allowed, even in a light hearted way. Really very simplistic view on being a supporter of a football club. You have clearly missed the point but that is par for the course. It is all about context. Someone posts comments about Long's contribution to helping an injured team mate and it gets followed up by comments on his goal scoring record (I have no idea how to do the multi quote business but if you cannot recognise the negative quotes then you are as blind as the proverbial) It has nothing to do with the objecting to the criticism of a player more the context in which it was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 July, 2021 Share Posted 23 July, 2021 Has there been any rumours about Shane yet? I saw the Reading one but not sure I believe it. He’s still down the pecking order with us… Will be interesting to see if anyone makes a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways Jim Posted 24 July, 2021 Share Posted 24 July, 2021 Scored in a 1-1 draw with Fulham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 24 July, 2021 Share Posted 24 July, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sideways Jim said: Scored in a 1-1 draw with Fulham That's his goal until 2023 done with then, underlining the fact we'd be best to offload him now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 24 July, 2021 Share Posted 24 July, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sideways Jim said: Scored in a 1-1 draw with Fulham Hopefully it’ll help us get him out on loan rather than us hear Ralph saying that Shane being back is as good as a new signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 24 July, 2021 Share Posted 24 July, 2021 2 hours ago, Baird of the land said: Hopefully it’ll help us get him out on loan rather than us hear Ralph saying that Shane being back is as good as a new signing. In fairness, Shane being back is as good as a new Les Reed signing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 24 July, 2021 Share Posted 24 July, 2021 No need to hunt around for an Ings replacement,answer already on the books. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 24 July, 2021 Share Posted 24 July, 2021 sarcasm can occasionally be quite amusing. Not always though I fully understand where you are coming from. For me he should have left us before without getting that new contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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