VectisSaint Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 But he was poor last season - that's why Koeman dropped him and we've been linked with a new RB. He wasn't. Just Koeman didn't fancy him and he had a lot of mostly head injuries. Hsd one bad game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 what a load of ****** Shurlock (as ever). He was not as poor as some of the idiots on here made out and should be set up for a cracking season. Koeman had his favorites - and Cedric was not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintmike5 Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Worth saying that Portugal conceded 5 in 3 games before Fonte and Soares played, then just the 1 in 4 games after they came in, 3 of which went to extra time. Both made a genuine difference and thoroughly deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Did Fonte forget to pick up his medal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Jose nearly forgets to get his medal FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Cedric was bloody good too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_emu Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 don't forget your medal Jose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 He wasn't. Just Koeman didn't fancy him and he had a lot of mostly head injuries. Hsd one bad game. One poor game He showed some promise at times. But generally had a disappointing season. Hopefully he can bring his euros performances into the new season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 In stark contrast to losing Premier League fans at finals the French politely wait in the stadium to see Portugal receive the trophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Fonte to be added to the banner? agree , rags to riches , well not quite but L1 to Euro Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 What A story for our last remains league one player Take a bow Jose Fonte European Champion He has outdone Lambert Lallana and Morgan and he didn't need to move to achieve it Saw Schneiderlin and Fonte at the end. Ironic one left for 'ambition' and ended up being dropped. Had he stayed maybe he would have played and maybe even won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Saw Schneiderlin and Fonte at the end. Ironic one left for 'ambition' and ended up being dropped. Had he stayed maybe he would have played and maybe even won. Did Morgan even get any playing time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Did Morgan even get any playing time? Nope. And he only got called up to the squad after Diarra pulled out with an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Fonte to be added to the banner? Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Trivia Question Which team is the ONLY team in the Premier League to have EURO 2016 winners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Is it just me or does it look like Fonte is giving Ronaldo a good rogering right there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Trivia Question Which team is the ONLY team in the Premier League to have EURO 2016 winners? Let me think, hang on........ I can do this....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Trivia Question Which team is the ONLY team in the Premier League to have EURO 2016 winners? ������ Lets hope its not Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Trivia Question Which team is the ONLY team in the Premier League to have EURO 2016 winners? Tough one this, was it the Portugal keeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Saw Schneiderlin and Fonte at the end. Ironic one left for 'ambition' and ended up being dropped. Had he stayed maybe he would have played and maybe even won. The Germans have a word.....Scheudengloat, or something.....Which is what I'm doing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Trivia Question Which team is the ONLY team in the Premier League to have EURO 2016 winners? ������ Hmmmmmm. I'm guessing Everton. Glass ceiling, £100m. And stuff. Do I win? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 But he was poor last season - that's why Koeman dropped him and we've been linked with a new RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 In other news: Sam Allardyce to be interviewed for England job this week http://gu.com/p/4zfbq?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Seriously, give him the job. We're basically Sunderland anyway and he can organise a team to get to the World Cup and probably the last eight and then we can come home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 The inclusion of Fonte and Cedric into a Portuguese defence gave it real stability at a time when they were shaky enough to concede 3 vs Hungary. Brilliant stuff to see them play so well in a win in the Final and massively well deserved. Jose for the banner, absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Another fine example of how a TEAM will trump a group of talented individuals. This year for football has been incredibly refreshing in that regard, but it really has been a **** tournament. I'm just proud of Jose though, absolute lad. Born to lead. Our captain is a European Championship winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 But he was poor last season - that's why Koeman dropped him and we've been linked with a new RB. He just needs a decent manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Trivia Question Which team is the ONLY team in the Premier League to have EURO 2016 winners? Swansea! No, wait, they sold the winning goalscorer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 I disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/20160710-jose-fonte-cedric-euro-2016-final-report-portugal-france-3178003.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van Hanegem Posted 10 July, 2016 Share Posted 10 July, 2016 What a great result for the Portuguese, the nicest citizens of Europe! But what a poor EC it was, only the Germans played some attractive football. The others played too often with the intention not to lose so it was mostly boring to watch. Hopefully this won't be the future of football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 What a great result for the Portuguese, the nicest citizens of Europe! But what a poor EC it was, only the Germans played some attractive football. The others played too often with the intention not to lose so it was mostly boring to watch. Hopefully this won't be the future of football... Most boring matches occur when both teams are afraid of losing. As long as one team is desperate for the win, it's usually exciting. With that in mind, here are my suggestions: 1) No more 3rd placed teams in a group advancing. Ever. 2) No more penalties in knockout matches. After extra time, the "highest seeded" (defined below) team advances. That way, at least one team will be going all out for the win. Probably both (see below). Seeding: First round of knockout, easy: Each match is 1st vs. 2nd from group play, so 1st is the higher seed. Bonus here: big incentive to finish first in group stage: more excitement there already. Subsequent rounds: team with highest points from previous matches is the higher seed. The points are the ones got from the group stage (again incentive to win as many as possible there), plus 6 points for each win in 90 minutes in a knockout, or 3 points for each win in extra time. ZERO points for a previously drawn match and going through as higher seed. In the event of two teams having the same number of points, goal difference followed by goals scored in all previous matches is used as a tie-breaker. If still tied, penalties (with zero points for that win). Again, incentive to win as many matches as possible, and to score as many goals as possible. For the final itself maybe use penalties instead of seeding; it wouldn't be satisfying crowning a champion after a draw. Argument against: the seeding is an artificial way of separating teams. Rebuttal: it's done in the group stage anyway, when teams are tied on points. Argument against: the higher seeded team may park the bus. Rebuttal: better to have one team park the bus, and the other go all out in attack, than both parking the bus. Besides, there's a strong incentive to maintain a high seed to win, so unlikely a team will park the bus. Anyway, call me mad, but I think it might work. As a bonus, England won't lose on bloody penalties again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 I personally think 4 groups with 6 teams, top 2 through would be fine. Would mean teams go for the win, as 5 draws wouldn't get you though if this was the case. Plus each team guaranteed 5 games, 5 EURO trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Forest Steve Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 Dear Morgan, Was hoping to run into you tonight but couldn't find you anywhere. I know you must be feeling a bit down at the moment but hey, what a great season you've had .... big games, highest level, two cup finals, silverware (unused subs do still get a medal, don't they ?) Just goes to show what can be achieved with a bit of ambition. Anyway, I'll catch up with you in the Europa's if you're Everton move doesn't come off. Jose xx ps. Cedric says hi !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 Like West Ham claim they won the World Cup, can we claim that we won the Euros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Forest Steve Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 Like West Ham claim they won the World Cup, can we claim that we won the Euros? we can indeed ... COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 The pet Spurs supporter a work made a comment about the game my reply was and how many players did Spurs have in the winning team he went rather quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 How long before the Fail start their stories along the lines of "Fonte and Cedric success gives them opportunity to move to a big club"? Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van Hanegem Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 Most boring matches occur when both teams are afraid of losing. As long as one team is desperate for the win, it's usually exciting. With that in mind, here are my suggestions: 1) No more 3rd placed teams in a group advancing. Ever. 2) No more penalties in knockout matches. After extra time, the "highest seeded" (defined below) team advances. That way, at least one team will be going all out for the win. Probably both (see below). Seeding: First round of knockout, easy: Each match is 1st vs. 2nd from group play, so 1st is the higher seed. Bonus here: big incentive to finish first in group stage: more excitement there already. Subsequent rounds: team with highest points from previous matches is the higher seed. The points are the ones got from the group stage (again incentive to win as many as possible there), plus 6 points for each win in 90 minutes in a knockout, or 3 points for each win in extra time. ZERO points for a previously drawn match and going through as higher seed. In the event of two teams having the same number of points, goal difference followed by goals scored in all previous matches is used as a tie-breaker. If still tied, penalties (with zero points for that win). Again, incentive to win as many matches as possible, and to score as many goals as possible. For the final itself maybe use penalties instead of seeding; it wouldn't be satisfying crowning a champion after a draw. Argument against: the seeding is an artificial way of separating teams. Rebuttal: it's done in the group stage anyway, when teams are tied on points. Argument against: the higher seeded team may park the bus. Rebuttal: better to have one team park the bus, and the other go all out in attack, than both parking the bus. Besides, there's a strong incentive to maintain a high seed to win, so unlikely a team will park the bus. Anyway, call me mad, but I think it might work. As a bonus, England won't lose on bloody penalties again. Sounds fine with me, this should help to make the game less dull for the non biased spectator. You could also choose for penalties before the match instead of seeding, the team who wins the penalties gets a 1-0 lead or something like that. I'm not sure but I believe this was used in the MLS back in the '80s to make the game more attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 July, 2016 Author Share Posted 11 July, 2016 absolutely DULL Euro's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/07/10/euro-2016-final-portugal-1-france-0-player-ratings-from-a-dramat/cedric/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/07/10/euro-2016-final-portugal-1-france-0-player-ratings-from-a-dramat/jose-fonte/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 6 for Cedric seems a bit harsh. He played really well. Especially give that Adrien Silva got a 7, and he was poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 6 for Cedric seems a bit harsh. He played really well. I thought he was brilliant. It even says in the Telegraph link that he bested Payet, arguably Frances most dangerous player. Not quite sure how that means he gets a rating of 6... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 The club should put that picture up in the foyer of Staplewood. Could be a reminder to a players who's agents tell them they need to leave to achieve their ambitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 6 for Cedric seems a bit harsh. He played really well. Especially give that Adrien Silva got a 7, and he was poor. BBC gave Cedric 8 and Fonte 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dark Munster Posted 11 July, 2016 Share Posted 11 July, 2016 Sounds fine with me, this should help to make the game less dull for the non biased spectator. You could also choose for penalties before the match instead of seeding, the team who wins the penalties gets a 1-0 lead or something like that. I'm not sure but I believe this was used in the MLS back in the '80s to make the game more attractive. Yes, that should work too. But still go to extra time if tied (ignoring penalties) after 90, and pre-match penalty winner wins if tied after 120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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