washsaint Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Its not that, our model has become very risk averse. We came up and immediately signed players so our squad was the best of the championship - Morgan, Clyne, Lallana, Lambert, Fonte etc etc. That is directly what all our success stemmed from. But we have thrown it out the window and gone already are the days where we used to have a core of talented, driven and energetic players used to english football. We aren't even linked with championship players, when the simple fact is we should be all over players like Ryan Sessegnon, Cariney, knockaert, brown etc. Its actually very poor from the club and we have completley lost our "way". Even Poch played gallagher, and will finish better than both Puel and Pellegrino... And whilst you need the addition of some foreign class (Wanyama, Mane, VVD etc.), the core should remain as a progressive and energetic squad, who are used to the tempo and aggression of english footy. Right now, saints have zero identity. And that is why we are struggling. What utter codswallop....as CB Fry posted not one of those players you mentioned was purchased when we got promoted to the Championship. Blimey, Lallana was from the Academy, Morgan was signed years previously, Fonte was signed when in L1, Clyne when we got promoted to the Prem, Lambert in L1, etc, etc Other than that, you are spot on............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 If you follow that 101goals link, There was a flight from Bournemouth and it landed at JLA and was met by a Liverpool club car ...... Unless somebody has been really sad Not sure what is sadder to be honest....a bunch of grown men (none of the female posters are being hysterical unless I have something wrong) hanging on every word posted on the bastion of truth that is Twitter and taking the word of a fake reporter (he is not an ESPN reporter) and getting their knickers in a twist over it all. Not for the first time, the mass hysteria has taken hold............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 The plane they are tracking is a private jet When he flew to Blackpool Im pretty sure it was from Farnborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Where has this theo story come from? It came from the Sun, who got it from the Star, who got it off some guy called Giulianelli on Tribal Football: http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/giulianelli-exclusive-arsenal-target-draxler-walcott-for-van-dijk-conte-in-mahrez-talks-4196636 So it's clearly nailed on to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 "Sources close to the player" sooo his agent. Or online bookies rustling up a few more swans before Friday comes and the golden goose goes into hibernation for a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 55 hours to go before we can park this thread for a few months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 When he flew to Blackpool Im pretty sure it was from Farnborough. why on earth would he go to Bournemouth to meet a plane? As you say, there is Farnborough as well as Blackbushe. Private jets come to where you are, you don't go to catch them where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 No well that Arsenal will be selling Ox, Theo & potentially Sanchez in the same window!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 why on earth would he go to Bournemouth to meet a plane? As you say, there is Farnborough as well as Blackbushe. Private jets come to where you are, you don't go to catch them where they are. Doesnt the team usually fly into Bournemouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 To be fair, I don't think anyone has ever gone to the detail they have. In terms of finding out the plane, what the interior looks like, and what sort of car picks him up. Slightly sad, given that fact that obviously no one else in the entire world will ever fly on that plane. Come on, you live for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 (edited) Their lot seem certain that he's on his way. Private jet did indeed go into JLA from Bournemouth and it was indeed met by an official LFC car. Doesn't exactly take much working out does it? It was all weird as **** from a city inhabited by utter freaks, but it does all seem rather genuine. Edited 29 August, 2017 by LGTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 No well that Arsenal will be selling Ox, Theo & potentially Sanchez in the same window!! Arsenal are walking in to a disaster of their own making - they're a shambles. Sanchez and Ozil, their two most gifted and valuable players, are out of contract at the end of the season and it doesn't seem like they're in a hurry to sign new contracts, meaning Arsenal either sell them now or lose them for free at the end of the season. They have no Champions League this season because of Wenger's stubbornness to do the decent thing and leave, meaning it's tougher to attract top, top players. They have had poor recruitment for ages, already shipping out Mustafi and looking to ship out Elneny - Lacazette goes against that flow but even he was being linked with West Ham until this year. Their players regularly get played out of position. They have 3 centre backs, two of whom are old, and one who is young and raw. Oh, and Chambers who has not been trusted for some time now. It's very possible Arsenal could lose their 'top 6 membership' over the next couple of seasons - which is annoying as they're the most tolerable top 6 club IMO. As for Walcott, not that I think he'll leave this summer, but I'd have him back here if we could compromise on his wages, but as for all players with pace, his shelf life is limited. It's interesting to see what will happen with them over the next couple of years. My mate, an Arsenal fan and well known bedwetter, is extremely worried. I'm seeing rumours of VVD bids of £75 million+ online, though I'm highly dubious of their authenticity, I'm pretty sure that would be the kind of money that our club wouldn't turn down. Even if it is to Liverpool, which would be a bitter pill to swallow. 53 hours to go to find out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 (edited) What utter codswallop....as CB Fry posted not one of those players you mentioned was purchased when we got promoted to the Championship. Blimey, Lallana was from the Academy, Morgan was signed years previously, Fonte was signed when in L1, Clyne when we got promoted to the Prem, Lambert in L1, etc, etc Other than that, you are spot on............... "Utter codswallop!" Please read before you flame others on a forum . Where do I say that we signed those players in the championship!! GAH, you're as bad as fry! I was merely stating that the fact we had good championship players was a significant factor behind our prem successes. And that is the case. Which you agree with at least Edited 29 August, 2017 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Their lot seem certain that he's on his way. Private jet did indeed go into JLA from Bournemouth and it was indeed met by an official LFC car. Doesn't exactly take much working out does it? It was all weird as **** from a city inhabited by utter freaks, but it does all seem rather genuine.Can we really hold a £60m asset who isn't contributing? For all the bravado, I'm not sure what that really achieves. That said, if we sell now we should have just sold in May and then could have avoided this charade all summer and had an increased budget. If we stick to him being not for sale for months that that has to remain the position now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Their lot seem certain that he's on his way. Private jet did indeed go into JLA from Bournemouth and it was indeed met by an official LFC car. Doesn't exactly take much working out does it? It was all weird as **** from a city inhabited by utter freaks, but it does all seem rather genuine. Josh King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Can we really hold a £60m asset who isn't contributing? For all the bravado, I'm not sure what that really achieves. That said, if we sell now we should have just sold in May and then could have avoided this charade all summer and had an increased budget. If we stick to him being not for sale for months that that has to remain the position now. Exactly. If we end up selling to them now we really are going to look pathetic. Seems more and more likely though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Exactly. If we end up selling to them now we really are going to look pathetic. Seems more and more likely though. agree. probably the plan all along to get another club bidding for him as opposed to playing this season here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Their lot seem certain that he's on his way. Private jet did indeed go into JLA from Bournemouth and it was indeed met by an official LFC car. Doesn't exactly take much working out does it? It was all weird as **** from a city inhabited by utter freaks, but it does all seem rather genuine. An injured Adam Lallana going back up North after visiting his Bournemouth residing parents for the weekend ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Can we really hold a £60m asset who isn't contributing? For all the bravado, I'm not sure what that really achieves. That said, if we sell now we should have just sold in May and then could have avoided this charade all summer and had an increased budget. If we stick to him being not for sale for months that that has to remain the position now. If he was going to leave anyway I would have preferred that we avoid this summer's nonsense as well, and the club could have reinvested the money for other players in a less hurried manner. However, in May VVD was being described as a £50 million player. Now with the transfer market going berserk over the summer, the talk in the press is anything from that to £75 million. It is entirely possible that the club has made a tidy profit just by waiting to the end of the window. I still would prefer that the club maintained its not for sale position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 come on Remember the Paul Allen yacht saga Well there is a bit of a difference between fixated with a stroppy CB, versus the possibility of a multi-billionaire buying your bankrupt club. Not that I was in any way involved in yacht-watching, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 An injured Adam Lallana going back up North after visiting his Bournemouth residing parents for the weekend ? Lallana still lives just outside Ringwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChudSaint Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Maybe he's gone full on Odemwingie and travelled without permission regardless... He's probably as desperate as the scouse fans right now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Exactly. If we end up selling to them now we really are going to look pathetic. Seems more and more likely though. Whilst I'd prefer us not to sell in order to stand up to player power, and if we did have to sell then not sell to the Scousers out of spite. However, as it stands they tried to get him at a knock down price with all their press shenanigans but by dragging it out we will have extracted a competitive price out of them. So regardless how it plays out we've played the hand as well as could be reasonably expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 VVD going to Liverpool ..... what's up with a go on the dodgems and a bag of chips in Blackpool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Lots of stuff suggesting that it was actually Josh King, who's on his way to Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Their lot seem certain that he's on his way. Private jet did indeed go into JLA from Bournemouth and it was indeed met by an official LFC car. Doesn't exactly take much working out does it? It was all weird as **** from a city inhabited by utter freaks, but it does all seem rather genuine. Agree. It doesn't look good, for us or Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 If he was going to leave anyway I would have preferred that we avoid this summer's nonsense as well, and the club could have reinvested the money for other players in a less hurried manner. However, in May VVD was being described as a £50 million player. Now with the transfer market going berserk over the summer, the talk in the press is anything from that to £75 million. It is entirely possible that the club has made a tidy profit just by waiting to the end of the window. I still would prefer that the club maintained its not for sale position. The 75m fee has been around for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Lots of stuff suggesting that it was actually Josh King, who's on his way to Everton He only signed a new 4 year contract last week. Not that it means anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Lots of stuff suggesting that it was actually Josh King, who's on his way to Everton [emoji38]Signed new 4 year deal last week so unlikely Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Bah, seems a lot of smoke. Immensely annoyed it's to Pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Les Reed. Sign some bloody good attackers or get your bag and leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Signed new 4 year deal last week so unlikely Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Yeh I know, I just wanted to join in with the absurd twitter rumours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Bah, seems a lot of smoke. Immensely annoyed it's to Pool. It's just their fans making loud noises on social media, they weren't going to go away quietly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 It's just their fans making loud noises on social media, they weren't going to go away quietly No it's not. It's investagive work which strongly links together and doesn't look good. It's not yet in the press, but after the incident earlier this window, is it any surprise both parties are keeping hush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Rumours it was Lallana on the plane, which would be hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Rumours it was Lallana on the plane, which would be hilarious. Yeh, someone mentioned earlier in the thread that it could be him. Owns a property near Ringwood. Very feasible, and likely, that it was him. A choice of spending the bank holiday weekend on the Mersey or on the sunny South Coast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Rumours it was Lallana on the plane, which would be hilarious. It would make far more sense. VVD lives in Winchester doesnt he so Farnborough more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Andy Hunter on the Guardian's transfer page reckons that Saints are so far standing firm in refusing to sell VVD to Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 It's just their fans making loud noises on social media, they weren't going to go away quietly Yep, surprising how many are getting sucked in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 I love the way the fu_ckwits make some comment about Les Reed, such as "you'll be out of a job" as if they have any say whatsoever. I'm still of the opinion he'll be made to stay and I've heard nothing to suggest otherwise. However, if we do sell him it really should be for an insanely eye watering amount but like others I'd feel as if we'd left it too late into the window to get value in the market for a number 10 type player which we are all aware that we desperately need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Andy Hunter on the Guardian's transfer page reckons that Saints are so far standing firm in refusing to sell VVD to Liverpool. Let's hope we stick to our guns and don't go weak at the knees if 'pool flash more cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Yep, surprising how many are getting sucked in They haven't learnt their lesson from Monk's little game with them a few weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Let's hope we stick to our guns and don't go weak at the knees if 'pool flash more cash. Why should we stick to our guns surely we should be planning the way forward without VVD which may entail keeping VVD but on the other hand it may not Lets wait and see what SFC decide to do and what input the new owner gives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Les Reed. Sign some bloody good attackers or get your bag and leave?That told him. Sent from my SM-T580 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry12 Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 No it's not. It's investagive work which strongly links together and doesn't look good. I had this checked out by a legal team that specialises in investigatve work and they found your statement to be inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 All rumour and speculation. There is a chance he was on the plane but just as likely he has gone without permission just in case Saints accept a fee eventually and he can have a medical lined up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 If he is still a Southampton player come midnight Thursday Friday could be an interesting day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 If we sell the club has yet again lied like they did over fonte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 Rumours it was Lallana on the plane, which would be hilarious. snakes on a plane gag anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 29 August, 2017 Share Posted 29 August, 2017 If he is still a Southampton player come midnight Thursday Friday could be an interesting day.If he's still with us Friday I wouldn't want to be his cat. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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