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There was an athletic article on how spurs ended up with nuno as their manager at the start of last season. Apparently Ralph was one of the people being considered for the job but they felt he might destabilise a settled dressing room. Article didn’t go any deeper than that but does seem to suggest that Ralph has a style which doesn’t always please everyone. Personally I don’t think it matters too much, as long as he has the respect of the players then that is generally all that matters 

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29 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

We should be in for Gibbs-White.

Why? Seen upwards of 25m being banded around, largely based on one good season in the Championship. If he was that good he would be an established PL player for Wolves by now

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8 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

The trick is recognising which players need an arm around the shoulder and which need the tough approach

It’s also the ability to be able to do it. Some managers are more one dimensional than others. Some explanation and examples here… https://www.theguardian.com/football/the-set-pieces-blog/2022/jun/23/secret-man-management-football-redknapp-ferguson-mourinho-klopp-benitez

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15 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

Why? Seen upwards of 25m being banded around, largely based on one good season in the Championship. If he was that good he would be an established PL player for Wolves by now

Up against Moutinho and Neves?

Good on the ball, very forward thinking and just had a very impressive season in the Championship.

He has Premier League experience as well.  I don’t understand people creaming their pants over an average Swede in Bologna and turn their nose up at MGW.

Maybe he isn’t very good on Football Manager.

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3 hours ago, revolution saint said:

There was an athletic article on how spurs ended up with nuno as their manager at the start of last season. Apparently Ralph was one of the people being considered for the job but they felt he might destabilise a settled dressing room. Article didn’t go any deeper than that but does seem to suggest that Ralph has a style which doesn’t always please everyone. Personally I don’t think it matters too much, as long as he has the respect of the players then that is generally all that matters 

Perhaps the Hojberg relationship had broken down

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41 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Up against Moutinho and Neves?

Good on the ball, very forward thinking and just had a very impressive season in the Championship.

He has Premier League experience as well.  I don’t understand people creaming their pants over an average Swede in Bologna and turn their nose up at MGW.

Maybe he isn’t very good on Football Manager.

Who is creaming their pants about Svanberg? 

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2 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

We should be in for Gibbs-White.

If we were looking at  the Sheffield Utd  squad last season Sander Berg as a DM might be a decent option. (Yes, fully aware Gibbs-White was on loan there from Wolves).

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16 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Colwill is a Soton lad and is quality. Ordinarily we should be all over this, but we can't have too many young CBs which may be why we aren't mentioned.

 

We have struggled to bring young CBs through our youth system, so buying lots of them might actually be a wise move, depending on the size of their wages.

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21 minutes ago, Badger said:

If we were looking at  the Sheffield Utd  squad last season Sander Berg as a DM might be a decent option. (Yes, fully aware Gibbs-White was on loan there from Wolves).

big powerful player, but haven't Sheffield got another parachute payment year, so perhaps could afford to keep him, all be it his value will start to drop off a cliff.  Currently two years left on his contract.

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13 minutes ago, Chez said:

big powerful player, but haven't Sheffield got another parachute payment year, so perhaps could afford to keep him, all be it his value will start to drop off a cliff.  Currently two years left on his contract.

Just found this, two years left. Linked with Leeds in this article, although I'd have thought they'd already added some decent MF options.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/sheffield-united-issue-fresh-financial-stance-over-leeds-united-summer-target/

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1 hour ago, Dusic said:

Colwill is a Soton lad and is quality. Ordinarily we should be all over this, but we can't have too many young CBs which may be why we aren't mentioned.

 

If we managed to shift Stephens, Bednerak and Lyanco, there would absolutely be space for Colwill. 

Salisu, That new chap, Colwill and Ben Mee would be a significant upgrade on what we currently have and would complement each other well, imo. 

interestingly, Colwill grew up playing with Jamal Musiala, (who now is starting for Byern Munich and Germany) before both being snapped up by Chelsea. Both of them can be considered ‘one who got away’. 

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2 hours ago, Badger said:

If we were looking at  the Sheffield Utd  squad last season Sander Berg as a DM might be a decent option. (Yes, fully aware Gibbs-White was on loan there from Wolves).

He'd be a decent signing, and would suit our style well imo.  

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We won’t be in for Ben Mee. I imagine he’ll end up at either Newcastle (close to home), or West Ham (will offer stupid wages). Can’t see him moving to the south coast away from family at the back end of his career.

Is Bednarek still here, ffs… Just go. Get rid of him and bring in another CB with more experience.

Anyone who thinks we should be paying £20m+ for Morgan Gibbs-White, have a word with yourself. English overrated. If he was from any other country he’d be half that value.

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Interesting Rangnick / Austria article from 3 weeks ago that encompasses:

- Comments from linkee Sasa Kalajdzic, who’s enjoying the style of training

- Similar comments from Christoph Baumgartner (who’s mentioned as a “sensible transfers” for us article in The Athletic).

- & how they react to a straight, direct talking style of coach.

https://www.unitedinfocus.com/news/austria-players-rave-about-ralf-rangnick-after-first-training-session/?amp

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Sensible transfers - Tifosi Football - Athletic

https://theathletic.com/3382831/2022/06/27/southampton-transfers-christoph-baumgartner/

Every transfer window, we create a video series for the Tifo Football YouTube channel called Sensible Transfers.

In that series, we analyse the problem areas within teams, and suggest solutions in the form of incoming players. It’s a fantasy, but a fun one.

Today, it’s Southampton…

As you’d expect from a team who conceded way too many goals last season, Southampton have moved early to strengthen the base of Ralph Hasenhuttl’s 4-2-2-2. Gavin Bazunu has joined from Manchester City, Mateusz Lis will provide further goalkeeping depth, and centre-back Armel Bella-Kotchap has been signed from the Bundesliga’s Bochum. 

Together, those three account for more than £20million and without a major sale, that’s likely a big chunk of the summer budget spent already. Well spent, perhaps, but gone nonetheless and Hasenhuttl still needs to broaden his attacking options. Particularly behind the forward line, where he needs some variation among and improvement upon his wide No 10s.

All of his existing players have virtues, but they each have their flaws too. Mohamed Elyounoussi’s decision making often isn’t the best, Stuart Armstrong now has physical limitations impacting his availability, and Nathan Redmond’s tangible output isn’t what it could be. Moussa Djenepo is certainly gifted, but whether he’s really suited to Hasenhuttl is another question. In the past, the Austrian has spoken of Djenepo’s instinctive style of play and how, at times, that’s made it difficult to evolve him into the kind of component that would really suit this side. With just one year left on his contract, it wouldn’t be a surprise if Djenepo wasn’t part of this conversation come September.

But the real problem to address is area, rather than player specific: whatever combination is used, the band of two behind the forwards lack goals, but are also short on craft, guile and — above all — speed. The addition of a player who could offer a threat closer to the touchline as well as in-field, while also bringing more menace to Hasenhuttl’s “red zone”, would feel like a big step forward.

Hoffenheim’s Christoph Baumgartner is our pick. He’s 22, an Austrian international, and fits the description above near-perfectly. He spent last season playing behind the forward line in a 3-4-1-2, so any move would involve a change in system and role, but he has a deep suitability to Hasenhuttl’s style of play.

Using smarterscout data, which gives players a rating from 0-99, relating to either how often they do a given action compared with others playing in their position (such as the ball recoveries and interceptions), or how effective they are (such as how well they progress the ball upfield) we can look at Baumgartner’s quality in each metric.

He presses extremely well, he was averaging 7.20 attacking third pressures per 90 minutes in the Bundesliga last season, and he’s certainly a good enough athlete to be of great value in attacking transitions. He’s excellent when it comes to disrupting opposition moves (83, as shown in the chart below) and defending with intensity (60) which will only prove valuable to Hasenhuttl’s Southampton. 

pizza_christoph_baumgartner_CM_2021-22.p

But he’s not a brawny type; he’s an elegant player. He’s an upright dribbler, ranking above average on the carries he initiates (60), who seems to glide with the ball, but who beats defenders with little bursts of acceleration. Actually, despite only being 5ft 10in, he runs with a long stride and seems to push away from opponents very easily; it’s that deceptive speed that players sometimes have. And, perhaps surprisingly, he rates well in aerial duels (red bars above), with a rating of 95.

More importantly, he’s also versatile enough to provide that threat in a range of attacking positions. And that’s what Southampton need. The seven goals he scored last season also speak to a finishing ability and shot volume (90) that they could with, too. Conveniently, he also possesses a battery of creative abilities which – we will not mark him out as a traditional No.10, he’s by no means a scheming playmaker – make him suited to the more dynamic version of the position that exists at Southampton. He does so many things well and should be available for within the region of £20m

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10 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Sensible transfers - Tifosi Football - Athletic

https://theathletic.com/3382831/2022/06/27/southampton-transfers-christoph-baumgartner/

Every transfer window, we create a video series for the Tifo Football YouTube channel called Sensible Transfers.

In that series, we analyse the problem areas within teams, and suggest solutions in the form of incoming players. It’s a fantasy, but a fun one.

Today, it’s Southampton…

As you’d expect from a team who conceded way too many goals last season, Southampton have moved early to strengthen the base of Ralph Hasenhuttl’s 4-2-2-2. Gavin Bazunu has joined from Manchester City, Mateusz Lis will provide further goalkeeping depth, and centre-back Armel Bella-Kotchap has been signed from the Bundesliga’s Bochum. 

Together, those three account for more than £20million and without a major sale, that’s likely a big chunk of the summer budget spent already. Well spent, perhaps, but gone nonetheless and Hasenhuttl still needs to broaden his attacking options. Particularly behind the forward line, where he needs some variation among and improvement upon his wide No 10s.

All of his existing players have virtues, but they each have their flaws too. Mohamed Elyounoussi’s decision making often isn’t the best, Stuart Armstrong now has physical limitations impacting his availability, and Nathan Redmond’s tangible output isn’t what it could be. Moussa Djenepo is certainly gifted, but whether he’s really suited to Hasenhuttl is another question. In the past, the Austrian has spoken of Djenepo’s instinctive style of play and how, at times, that’s made it difficult to evolve him into the kind of component that would really suit this side. With just one year left on his contract, it wouldn’t be a surprise if Djenepo wasn’t part of this conversation come September.

But the real problem to address is area, rather than player specific: whatever combination is used, the band of two behind the forwards lack goals, but are also short on craft, guile and — above all — speed. The addition of a player who could offer a threat closer to the touchline as well as in-field, while also bringing more menace to Hasenhuttl’s “red zone”, would feel like a big step forward.

Hoffenheim’s Christoph Baumgartner is our pick. He’s 22, an Austrian international, and fits the description above near-perfectly. He spent last season playing behind the forward line in a 3-4-1-2, so any move would involve a change in system and role, but he has a deep suitability to Hasenhuttl’s style of play.

Using smarterscout data, which gives players a rating from 0-99, relating to either how often they do a given action compared with others playing in their position (such as the ball recoveries and interceptions), or how effective they are (such as how well they progress the ball upfield) we can look at Baumgartner’s quality in each metric.

He presses extremely well, he was averaging 7.20 attacking third pressures per 90 minutes in the Bundesliga last season, and he’s certainly a good enough athlete to be of great value in attacking transitions. He’s excellent when it comes to disrupting opposition moves (83, as shown in the chart below) and defending with intensity (60) which will only prove valuable to Hasenhuttl’s Southampton. 

pizza_christoph_baumgartner_CM_2021-22.p

But he’s not a brawny type; he’s an elegant player. He’s an upright dribbler, ranking above average on the carries he initiates (60), who seems to glide with the ball, but who beats defenders with little bursts of acceleration. Actually, despite only being 5ft 10in, he runs with a long stride and seems to push away from opponents very easily; it’s that deceptive speed that players sometimes have. And, perhaps surprisingly, he rates well in aerial duels (red bars above), with a rating of 95.

More importantly, he’s also versatile enough to provide that threat in a range of attacking positions. And that’s what Southampton need. The seven goals he scored last season also speak to a finishing ability and shot volume (90) that they could with, too. Conveniently, he also possesses a battery of creative abilities which – we will not mark him out as a traditional No.10, he’s by no means a scheming playmaker – make him suited to the more dynamic version of the position that exists at Southampton. He does so many things well and should be available for within the region of £20m

#BaumgartnerWatch

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3 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

#BaumgartnerWatch

Wasn't he part of that very good Austria side in Euro 2020? I am trying to remember who shined in that side. Wasn't it his long haired team mate Grillitsch that stood out? Is he available this summer too?

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4 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Sensible transfers - Tifosi Football - Athletic

https://theathletic.com/3382831/2022/06/27/southampton-transfers-christoph-baumgartner/

Every transfer window, we create a video series for the Tifo Football YouTube channel called Sensible Transfers.

In that series, we analyse the problem areas within teams, and suggest solutions in the form of incoming players. It’s a fantasy, but a fun one.

Today, it’s Southampton…

As you’d expect from a team who conceded way too many goals last season, Southampton have moved early to strengthen the base of Ralph Hasenhuttl’s 4-2-2-2. Gavin Bazunu has joined from Manchester City, Mateusz Lis will provide further goalkeeping depth, and centre-back Armel Bella-Kotchap has been signed from the Bundesliga’s Bochum. 

Together, those three account for more than £20million and without a major sale, that’s likely a big chunk of the summer budget spent already. Well spent, perhaps, but gone nonetheless and Hasenhuttl still needs to broaden his attacking options. Particularly behind the forward line, where he needs some variation among and improvement upon his wide No 10s.

All of his existing players have virtues, but they each have their flaws too. Mohamed Elyounoussi’s decision making often isn’t the best, Stuart Armstrong now has physical limitations impacting his availability, and Nathan Redmond’s tangible output isn’t what it could be. Moussa Djenepo is certainly gifted, but whether he’s really suited to Hasenhuttl is another question. In the past, the Austrian has spoken of Djenepo’s instinctive style of play and how, at times, that’s made it difficult to evolve him into the kind of component that would really suit this side. With just one year left on his contract, it wouldn’t be a surprise if Djenepo wasn’t part of this conversation come September.

But the real problem to address is area, rather than player specific: whatever combination is used, the band of two behind the forwards lack goals, but are also short on craft, guile and — above all — speed. The addition of a player who could offer a threat closer to the touchline as well as in-field, while also bringing more menace to Hasenhuttl’s “red zone”, would feel like a big step forward.

Hoffenheim’s Christoph Baumgartner is our pick. He’s 22, an Austrian international, and fits the description above near-perfectly. He spent last season playing behind the forward line in a 3-4-1-2, so any move would involve a change in system and role, but he has a deep suitability to Hasenhuttl’s style of play.

Using smarterscout data, which gives players a rating from 0-99, relating to either how often they do a given action compared with others playing in their position (such as the ball recoveries and interceptions), or how effective they are (such as how well they progress the ball upfield) we can look at Baumgartner’s quality in each metric.

He presses extremely well, he was averaging 7.20 attacking third pressures per 90 minutes in the Bundesliga last season, and he’s certainly a good enough athlete to be of great value in attacking transitions. He’s excellent when it comes to disrupting opposition moves (83, as shown in the chart below) and defending with intensity (60) which will only prove valuable to Hasenhuttl’s Southampton. 

pizza_christoph_baumgartner_CM_2021-22.p

But he’s not a brawny type; he’s an elegant player. He’s an upright dribbler, ranking above average on the carries he initiates (60), who seems to glide with the ball, but who beats defenders with little bursts of acceleration. Actually, despite only being 5ft 10in, he runs with a long stride and seems to push away from opponents very easily; it’s that deceptive speed that players sometimes have. And, perhaps surprisingly, he rates well in aerial duels (red bars above), with a rating of 95.

More importantly, he’s also versatile enough to provide that threat in a range of attacking positions. And that’s what Southampton need. The seven goals he scored last season also speak to a finishing ability and shot volume (90) that they could with, too. Conveniently, he also possesses a battery of creative abilities which – we will not mark him out as a traditional No.10, he’s by no means a scheming playmaker – make him suited to the more dynamic version of the position that exists at Southampton. He does so many things well and should be available for within the region of £20m

Well-researched report.

Much better than the ‘sign Carlos Kickaball because he’s good on Football Manager’ type research that is all too common on here.

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34 minutes ago, Ken Tone said:

Is it only me that logs in here every day hoping to see we're signing a new first choice striker?

Every day………I check in every 15 minutes in the vain hope of this happening!! As it with all things Saint’s it’s the hope that kills you!!

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53 minutes ago, Ken Tone said:

Is it only me that logs in here every day hoping to see we're signing a new first choice striker?

You are not alone. We could actually still also do with another quality CB and central midfielder too. Here's hoping

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3 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Wouldnt be a surprise to see Simeu go out to the Turkish gang i think, maybe a nice step up from L2 - not sure what the quality is like but given they were in the top league last year would guess bottom championship ?

Would be a huge suprise IMO. Unless he goes to the SPL I would be amazed if we loaned him outside of the EFL, especially after his first loan went so well.

From his perspective its far from clear cut that he will make it at Saints so as well as developing, the EFL is a great shop window for him.

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1 minute ago, DT said:

You are not alone. We could actually still also do with another quality CB and central midfielder too. Here's hoping

Two  maybe even three strikers depending on what happens with Long and Armstrong. Plus a couple of decent attacking midfielders. Lots of work to be done yet. 

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