Paul Onuachu

[Whitey Grandad]

22 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

They will be fucking odd if he gets them. 

Pedant alert!

 

20 is an even number 

[Turkish]

8 hours ago, spyinthesky said:

Wonder how Tall Paul got on with the pre season 'Bleep' tests?

Smashing it. he only needs 3 strides to get to the other end.

[Turkish]

On 26/06/2023 at 14:27, waylander said:

And then didn't give him any chance to play to his strength.

He's good at getting stuff out of gutters i hear.

[swannymere]

What's Happening?

[Saint Matty 76]

Just now, swannymere said:

What's Happening?

There was a link of a return to Genk last night, which basically said both parties are interested but they wouldn't want to pay anything near what we're looking for. Their record transfer fee is about a third of what we paid for him 6 months ago.

[the saint in winchester]

Yeah, Genk have said 5m EUR is their budget and then player has to accept a low wage.

Let's get him up to speed and playing, would be my advice. There HAS to be a player in there. He scored goals before. We are not going to get much back on the empties.

[waylander]

Put the ball into the box in the air then he will score - something we singularly failed to do when he was on the pitch last season

[Dman]

Big Paul feels like the sort of player we will need to loan out or agree to take a massive hit on, just to get him out of the club. We're never going to get anything near what we paid, he's a terrible footballer and has no future here. 

[SherborneSaint]

17 minutes ago, the saint in winchester said:

Yeah, Genk have said 5m EUR is their budget and then player has to accept a low wage.

Let's get him up to speed and playing, would be my advice. There HAS to be a player in there. He scored goals before. We are not going to get much back on the empties.

This might depend on the ability to ‘get him up to speed’. He is such a tall man that I’m not sure he will ever have the fitness or mobility needed for a retention based system…

He could offer an alternative approach, but I can’t see the side being one to get the ball out wide to cross into the box.

Are there any direct sides that need a goal scorer?

[swannymere]

We didn't play that direct with Crouch in the team and he's not that quick.

[FarehamSaintJames]

48 minutes ago, Dman said:

Big Paul feels like the sort of player we will need to loan out or agree to take a massive hit on, just to get him out of the club. We're never going to get anything near what we paid, he's a terrible footballer and has no future here. 

Like Carrillo, he was bought for a specific manager and a specific type of playing style.

On both occasions the manager and the playing style changed.

Doesn't mean they’re crap players, lots on here saying Onuachu was a crap signing, but as I’ve said previously, you can’t judge him on maybe fifteen minutes of football. 😂

As Dman says, he and the other players surplus to requirements need to be shifted if they’re not part of the clubs plans.
Take the hit and move on.

[benali-shorts]

He won’t have the mobility, durability or ability for us. From the little we saw, he couldn’t jump and offers little aerial threat. Not sure what system he would suit, other than dropping into an inferior league. Dman almost certainly correct that we’ll be subsidising his wages for the rest of his contract one way or the other. Shame. 

[LordHester]

8 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Like Carrillo, he was bought for a specific manager and a specific type of playing style.

On both occasions the manager and the playing style changed.

Doesn't mean they’re crap players, lots on here saying Onuachu was a crap signing, but as I’ve said previously, you can’t judge him on maybe fifteen minutes of football. 😂

As Dman says, he and the other players surplus to requirements need to be shifted if they’re not part of the clubs plans.
Take the hit and move on.

I'm not saying he's crap, but Carillo's record since leaving Saints isn't exactly stellar - a couple of goals this season in the Chinese Super League. Onuachu's record pre Saints is far better than Carillo's has been at any time, so there's a chance there's a good player in there with the right system.

[benali-shorts]

Having played a decade in the Danish and Belgian leagues, I suspect it’s less about systems, and more about level. 
 

[davefizzy14]

I still think Onuachu could be an asset. He thrives on balls into the box to attack and head in. 

Edited 26 July, 2023 by davefizzy14

[revolution saint]

2 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said:

I still think Onuachu could be an asset. He thrives on balls into the box to attack and head in. 

He could be but I think it's pretty clear he's not in our plans.  In a way I feel sorry for the lad - he's not had much of a chance at all and would have hoped for at least the opportunity to make a difference.  Suspect it'll be a loan back to Genk that's more likely than anything else.

[stevy777_x]

3 goals 1 assist in 3 games

[Chez]

22 minutes ago, stevy777_x said:

3 goals 1 assist in 3 games

Great news. Hope he gets 40 goals. He will then be in demand and we can get our money back. 

[East Kent Saint]

All headers ??

[JRM]

Recall clause in January? 

[Charlie Wayman]

11 minutes ago, JRM said:

Recall clause in January? 

Especially if we offload that useless prat Adams.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 hours ago, stevy777_x said:

3 goals 1 assist in 3 games

But how many passes out of the hundred in the build up, did he make? 🙂

Good to see him do well.

[Convict Colony]

Happy for him

[JRM]

3 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Especially if we offload that useless prat Adams.

Can see it happening, soon to be out of contract Adams downs tools, Stewart back on the treatment table,  cometh the hour cometh the Tall Paul Southamptons goal machine 

[Turkish]

4 hours ago, JRM said:

Can see it happening, soon to be out of contract Adams downs tools, Stewart back on the treatment table,  cometh the hour cometh the Tall Paul Southamptons goal machine 

tall Paul is the Jonno Quick 2023/24 version 

[southamptonfc]

Never got a fair shake from the manager or fans. He causes panic in the oppo box and is well capable of 15+ goals in this division.

Even though it's against our manager's style, the fact is we are desperate for an outlet for a long ball at times, not having that option even on the bench is ridiculous at any level.

I'd be happy to have him back.

Edited 3 October, 2023 by southamptonfc

[Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan]

5 hours ago, southamptonfc said:

Never got a fair shake from the manager or fans. He causes panic in the oppo box and is well capable of 15+ goals in this division.

Even though it's against our manager's style, the fact is we are desperate for an outlet for a long ball at times, not having that option even on the bench is ridiculous at any level.

I'd be happy to have him back.

Agreed, something we've fallen foul of over the years is a lack of plan B, because we don't have players who offer anything different. A big lump of a striker to chuck on for the last 20 minutes if you're chasing a game and the opposition are just sitting in is always going to be more useful than someone who plays on the shoulder of the last defender, if the defenders are on their own penalty spot to start with. 

[inspectorfrost]

Only Saints could sign a prolific 6ft 7ins sriker and not use him as a target man.

Really pleased he's doing well, his goals record speaks for itself. I hope he comes back but can't see it.

[davefizzy14]

Pleased to see Onuachu doing well. Hope to see him back once his loan spell ends.

 

 

Edited 3 October, 2023 by davefizzy14

[Saint Matty 76]

You can only laugh.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

In a parallel world, we don't concede to 10 man wolves, NJ delivers a series of coherent press conferences, we get Bree delivering to Big Paul who gandoes on a scoring run. The confidence that gives us, keeps us up. 🙂

 

 

 

[Maggie May]

45 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

You can only laugh.

Fair enough but he was garbage for us.

[Bad Wolf]

5 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

Fair enough but he was garbage for us.

If he'd had as many chances as Adams did become he came "good" (by which I mean slightly less bad) he may have done something. 

You can't judge him on 5 minute cameos when the team had given up in the game anyway.

I only remember him having two actual games. Chelsea away which he was very good and Fulham at home which admittedly he was shocking.

I still think he'd have been a better option in this league than Adams.

[bpsaint]

5 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

If he'd had as many chances as Adams did become he came "good" (by which I mean slightly less bad) he may have done something. 

You can't judge him on 5 minute cameos when the team had given up in the game anyway.

I only remember him having two actual games. Chelsea away which he was very good and Fulham at home which admittedly he was shocking.

I still think he'd have been a better option in this league than Adams.

Agreed, especially for the games where we need to dig in and require a shithouse up top.

The amount of times the opposition have bought on a player like that against us and ended up benefiting…..he could have been really important to us in this league.

[Patches O Houlihan]

3 hours ago, bpsaint said:

Agreed, especially for the games where we need to dig in and require a shithouse up top.

The amount of times the opposition have bought on a player like that against us and ended up benefiting…..he could have been really important to us in this league.

We needed a shithouse at Gillingham. That game demonstrated the gulf in attitude and athleticism between Charlie & Tall Paul.  Both came on as subs, one was a spectator and one was a game changer.

Watch that acrobatic goal video back and watch his movement into the box - reminds me of the "It's..." man at the start of Monty Python!

[Dark Munster]

4 hours ago, Maggie May said:

Fair enough but he was garbage for us.

Under garbage managers. Also against PL defenses.

AArmstrong was also garbage as well. I reckon Tall Paul C'veDAJFU in this league.

[HKsaint]

He was not given sufficient opportunities 

[Convict Colony]

Tall paul showing what happens when you cross the ball to him and plays in a team that try's to win games and has forwards in the team to attack rather than their defensive skills.

[Patches O Houlihan]

He's afforded loads more space on the pitch in Turkey than he'd get in the PL or Championship, which will be much easier for his game. I believe the Belgian league is the same.

Rather than pay him for years while he learns how to manage in a congested box I think we were better to loan him out to a league that suits his game better, and get in a player who knows how to manage in that environment (Ross Stewart).

At the pre-WBA press conference RM was asked about him and the first description that came to mind was "He's massive!" and that's not a metaphorical term; he was meaning physically a big bloke. That footage of him scoring after 9 minutes for the Under 21s made him look like he'd gone back to play for his school team!

There would seem to be no lack of effort on Paul's part. I just think it was a wrong choice for all parties. It might have worked if we had dramatically changed our playing style but Selles wasn't wiling.

I'll bet by the time January comes around we'll all be much more confident about which big bloke we loaned out and which one we signed.

Edited 11 November, 2023 by Patches O Houlihan
bloody spell check

[Maggie May]

Lots of rose tinted glasses being worn I’m afraid. He’s currently impressing in a very poor league. You only have to go back to page three to see how most fans were feeling about his performances for us.

[Maggie May]

Very similar posts about Moi when he was performing for Celtic on loan by the way. Poor when he first signed, even worse when he returned:

 

[inspectorfrost]

1 hour ago, Maggie May said:

Lots of rose tinted glasses being worn I’m afraid. He’s currently impressing in a very poor league. You only have to go back to page three to see how most fans were feeling about his performances for us.

Haaland would have been garbage for Man City if they'd signed him and played him at LB the entire time. He had limited opportunities under 2 of the worst managers the premier league has ever seen. No target man would flourish in a team who either passed the ball 5 yards sideways/backwards or gave the ball away.

It's less him being a poor player and more him wondering what the hell he came in to at that time, HCDAJFU in the Championship, but very much doubt he'll be back.

 

[Convict Colony]

2 hours ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

He's afforded loads more space on the pitch in Turkey than he'd get in the PL or Championship, which will be much easier for his game. I believe the Belgian league is the same.

Rather than pay him for years while he learns how to manage in a congested box I think we were better to loan him out to a league that suits his game better, and get in a player who knows how to manage in that environment (Ross Stewart).

At the pre-WBA press conference RM was asked about him and the first description that came to mind was "He's massive!" and that's not a metaphorical term; he was meaning physically a big bloke. That footage of him scoring after 9 minutes for the Under 21s made him look like he'd gone back to play for his school team!

There would seem to be no lack of effort on Paul's part. I just think it was a wrong choice for all parties. It might have worked if we had dramatically changed our playing style but Selles wasn't wiling.

I'll bet by the time January comes around we'll all be much more confident about which big bloke we loaned out and which one we signed.

Tell me you didn't watch the goal without telling me you didn't watch the goal.

[ant]

He's improving the fee we'll get for him. Good.

[davefizzy14]

Quality finish from Onuachu. 

[derry]

To be fair to the man, he operates in the penalty area, that's it. It's the way he has always played. The dumb asses at Saints tried to be different. Forget him let him play around the penalty area and he will get goals. If your looking for a pressing, passing defensive tracker you don't sign him.

[stknowle]

8 hours ago, HKsaint said:

He was not given sufficient opportunities 

Agreed HK my old pal. 

[Master Bates]

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Edited 11 November, 2023 by Master Bates
Already posted

[S-Clarke]

I never thought we gave him enough of an opportunity or even played to his strengths, so he was pretty much null and void here without even playing. I don't have anything against him in any way.

There is no agreed fee in the loan, so this is only going to bump up his value.

[skintsaint]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67767410

Scored again before called off 😅