beatlesaint Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 54 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: The people celebrating this are a bit odd. He's scored 3 goals and got 2 assists in 487 minutes of game time this season, and is only 21 still. Anyone who's happy he won't be on the bench - who do you think steps in that provides a better option? Seriously? Two of those goals were tap ins and if memory serves we were 3 or 4 up at the times he scored. If you saw that pathetic appearence against Coventry last Tuesday you wouldnt be saying that.....and if you did have a word with yourself, he was a bloody disgrace 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm waldron Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 11 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: I believe it happened right at the end just before the 3rd goal went in. The Watford manager and players were complaining about it post match saying there should have been a red card and that Downes handled the ball, so were doubly incensed. Can't say I saw exactly what happened but a Watford player was flat out in the pen area. Some of our so called supporters are more than a bit odd, Mara hasn't been great recently but he was brought on to do a job (at set pieces, defensively) and we won the game after he came on so who is to say that was a mistake. I saw the back end of it, from down the other end of the pitch - only in as much as there appeared to be a coming together, followed by what I thought was Mara wrestling (throwing?) their player to the ground. He was a big lad who I suspect went down very easily and so it will be interesting to understand what footage is available that shows what really happened. I'm not sure what triggered the flare-up, but at the time I was thinking - wow, he's certainly fighting a lot more than in the Cov match.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StDunko Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 It was immediately after Fraser's off-side goal. Whilst some of our players were busy complaining about the off-side to the ref and lino, Porteous was trying to re-start the game with a quick free kick, as several of our players out of position and not paying attention. Mara saw this and "brushed passed" Porteous (ahem, perhaps there may have been an elbow to the body or suchlike). Porteous went down like a sack of spuds and the quick free kick was thwarted. Their goalie, who'd seen it all then started having a tantrum like a toddler who'd been told he wasn't allowed any more ice cream, cos the ref and lino weren't looking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I saw it from the Northam. Mara is an absolute idiot and I’m not the least bit surprised he’s got a ban for it, he was lucky the ref didn’t spot it at the time as it looked like a certain red from where I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Mara is an absolute idiot and I’m not the least bit surprised he’s got a ban for it, Has he been banned? As I saw it, Porteous was hanging on to Mara and shoving him as they jogged along, Mara responded with a weak smack/push in the back. The defender went down dramatically as if assaulted with a baseball bat, the keeper, who himself recovered from the career-ending injury in the same match, ran around trying to get a red card for Mara. The defender then got up because his play-acting hadn't worked - and perhaps realising that simulation when you are already on a yellow is asking for trouble. It looked like handbags to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) I saw it similarly, although wasn't close, thought it was a bit of a nothing tussle then Mara shoved him to the ground. At the time I thought it was free kick level, not even booking level. Their player seemed to make a meal of it once he lost his balance. However, there could have easily been a punch / elbow I didn't see. I guess there was more to it than I saw if RM is expecting a ban. Edited April 16 by West end Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 minute ago, West end Saints said: I saw it similarly, although wasn't close, thought it was a bit of a nothing tussle then Mara shoved him to the ground. At the time I thought it was free kick level, not even booking level. Their player seemed to make a meal of it once he lost his balance. However, there could have easily been a punch / elbow I didn't see. I guess there was more to it than I saw if RM is expecting a ban. I know he's not likely to start etc, but surely if there was a case to answer, this should be sorted out way before we are due to play. Telling a club that a player is banned on the same evening as a match is a bit shit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, beatlesaint said: Seriously? Two of those goals were tap ins and if memory serves we were 3 or 4 up at the times he scored. If you saw that pathetic appearence against Coventry last Tuesday you wouldnt be saying that.....and if you did have a word with yourself, he was a bloody disgrace Young player in having bad game shocker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 41 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Young player in having bad game shocker. The 'young player' stuff being thrown around doesn't really float for me. At 21 in football terms he's not really young, plenty of players aged 20-21 have played and are playing to a high level. Tino, Lavia, Shaw, Bale, Theo, Ox, Palmer, Bellingham to name just a few. Even Edozie has given us more than Mara and he's the same age. He's not had an enormous amount of minutes, granted - so that is an argument to have for sure, but my assumption on that is that he's simply not showing enough to be considered good enough to play. He may make a career for himself but I don't see it being at a high level, he could end up going to a lower French side I reckon. Sometimes it just becomes obvious that a certain player is simply not going to make the grade. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, ally_uk said: The people who are slating Mara are idiots..... the lad is young still learning trade. Previously we have seen glimpses of what he is capable of. Said it before and will say it again technically is one of our better players. He’s fucking shite, and one of the laziest players I’ve seen in a Saints shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 minutes ago, bpsaint said: He’s fucking shite, and one of the laziest players I’ve seen in a Saints shirt. I don't think he's fucking shite, because he clearly has ability. But I completely agree with the second part. That 'performance' against Coventry last week was unforgiveable in terms of effort. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Young player in having bad game shocker. The difference in standards you hold Bazunu and Mara to is really quite remarkable. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 28 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: The difference in standards you hold Bazunu and Mara to is really quite remarkable. If Bazunu was number 2 playing cup games learning his trade I'd be over the moon with him. If Mara was our first choice striker and our main source of goals I wouldn't be particularly happy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 39 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: If Bazunu was number 2 playing cup games learning his trade I'd be over the moon with him. If Mara was our first choice striker and our main source of goals I wouldn't be particularly happy. In other words one of them is good enough to start every game and the other has never looked like getting a start ahead of the thoroughly mediocre Che Adams. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 There's probably a player in there, but it's not worked out here. Time to cut our losses in the Summer and hope we can get some money off the fact he's still a France U21 international He's looked okay off the bench a few times but never grabbed an opportunity from the start. The last couple of sub appearances have been shambolic and the biggest indictment is that I saw he was suspended for 3 games and legitimately believed it to be a good thing Hope he succeeds back in France, but this season should be it for him in Southampton. Had ample opportunity to break into the team and he still legitimately looks lightyears behind Che Adams in terms of his all-round play 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 How on earth is that worthy of a 3 match ban? The defender grabs hold of him and Mara tries to swipe him off... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Yeah if that wasn’t Mara I’d be fuming at that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 minutes ago, trousers said: How on earth is that worthy of a 3 match ban? The defender grabs hold of him and Mara tries to swipe him off... That's not violent conduct for me. Not worthy a 3 match ban. That said, he doesn't deserve any more game time so quite happy that RM has to look to others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 7 hours ago, Saint_clark said: What, when did that happen? I watched the whole thing and don't remember it at all. The people celebrating this are a bit odd. He's scored 3 goals and got 2 assists in 487 minutes of game time this season, and is only 21 still. Anyone who's happy he won't be on the bench - who do you think steps in that provides a better option? What about Rothwell? He's got a good shot, and is a bit too lightweight for the midfield when we're tiring at the end, but is still a reasonable height. I'd rather throw on Dibling - at least we know he'd run his heart out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Watch Adams and Armstrong both get injured tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Watch Adams and Armstrong both get injured tonight. Something else for Stephens to try his hand at. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Mara is a player we should keep, until I get the chance to meet his mother at least. 🥰 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, trousers said: How on earth is that worthy of a 3 match ban? The defender grabs hold of him and Mara tries to swipe him off... Never a red, can't understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, trousers said: How on earth is that worthy of a 3 match ban? The defender grabs hold of him and Mara tries to swipe him off... Player grabs players arm. Player spins round. Player falls over. Nothing to see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 It looked like a much harder swing from behind the goal, the FA will have seen more angles than just that. Regardless of the dubious amount of pain the defender was actually in, the intent was certainly there. Why do it? Just brainless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 First bit of fight this waste of space has shown in 18 months and even that was pathetic. Any chance we can ask the EFL to extend the ban? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Certain he would have got more undeserved time on the pitch tonight had he not been banned awful player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Ralph Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Great news 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 11 hours ago, ally_uk said: The people who are slating Mara are idiots..... the lad is young still learning trade. Previously we have seen glimpses of what he is capable of. Said it before and will say it again technically is one of our better players. Two years and there has been little to no progress. We spent £12m on a footballer who can’t even manage a jog, appears lazy and uninterested and can’t make any form of impact. If he was good enough to have an impact he’d be playing weekly. The fact he wasn’t that in the Premier League and he hasn’t changed in the Championship screams volumes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 12 hours ago, ally_uk said: The people who are slating Mara are idiots..... the lad is young still learning trade. Previously we have seen glimpses of what he is capable of. Said it before and will say it again technically is one of our better players. This used to get posted with regularity on the Sofiane Boufal thread. I’ll be amazed if Mara turns into anything decent in English football. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: This used to get posted with regularity on the Sofiane Boufal thread. I’ll be amazed if Mara turns into anything decent in English football. And Boufal was better than Mara. Time to get rid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 4 hours ago, Lighthouse said: This used to get posted with regularity on the Sofiane Boufal thread. I’ll be amazed if Mara turns into anything decent in English football. Boufal was a year older than Mara is now when he signed for us and left at 26 years old. Mara legitimately is still a young player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 19 hours ago, Lighthouse said: In other words one of them is good enough to start every game and the other has never looked like getting a start ahead of the thoroughly mediocre Che Adams. A "thoroughly mediocre" Che Adams who has now scored 15 league goals making him joint 5th top scorer in the divison. Can we please have some more "mediocre" players like this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 26 minutes ago, waylander said: A "thoroughly mediocre" Che Adams who has now scored 15 league goals making him joint 5th top scorer in the divison. Can we please have some more "mediocre" players like this. Also has the third best minutes to goals ratio from what I could see too, would be top scorer for Leicester and Ipswich, and two away from being Leeds’. Not bad for someone so mediocre. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 16/04/2024 at 17:53, Lighthouse said: In other words one of them is good enough to start every game and the other has never looked like getting a start ahead of the thoroughly mediocre Che Adams. While I agree with you, currently window watch Che is Mbappe/Haaland and Messi rolled into 1 so please do not remind him he's been shit most of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 23 hours ago, coalman said: Player grabs players arm. Player spins round. Player falls over. Nothing to see here That is outrageous he has a 3 match ban for that, that is fucking weak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) Sometimes I despair, this forum is not the real world, thank god ;-) I get its a release valve for some but imagine if you started work in your first year in sales and your boss, the shareholders reviewed you and expected you to be as good as the salesman that has been there 10yrs but we still have another thread slagging him off. Everyone expects our players to be perfect every time including all young players charles, baz, edozie, sully etc but we also have a thread slagging off our captain, manager, owners etc and our main centre forward only scores near transfer windows. Edited April 17 by Convict Colony 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 16 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Sometimes I despair, this forum is not the real world, thank god 😉 I get its a release valve for some but imagine if you started work in your first year in sales and your boss, the shareholders reviewed you and expected you to be as good as the salesman that has been there 10yrs but we still have another thread slagging him off. Everyone expects our players to be perfect every time including all young players charles, baz, edozie, sully etc but we also have a thread slagging off our captain, manager, owners etc and our main centre forward only scores near transfer windows. We're better than the real world. Look at how egalitarian we are. Everyone gets a slagging off thread. We're desperate for everyone to be brilliant, that we need a release for when obviously can't be. Are we the baddies? No! We are... 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 22 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: our main centre forward only scores near transfer windows. That's a massive stretch to blame that on the forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 On 16/04/2024 at 19:05, Patches O Houlihan said: What about Rothwell? He's got a good shot, and is a bit too lightweight for the midfield when we're tiring at the end, but is still a reasonable height. I'd rather throw on Dibling - at least we know he'd run his heart out " too lightweight ? ".....as I see it he's got more height and bulk than anyone else in midfield and still has a bit of pace. Dibling is a very promising youngster (who I'd like to see get the minutes instead of Mara) , but still looks like "a 10 stone weakling". Has time to grow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Absolutely gutted that Mara and Bazunu are unavailable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 6 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Absolutely gutted that Mara and Bazunu are unavailable. Didn't like the way RM put AA in the middle after Che was substituted (when will RM ever learn?), but I agree, now this clown is unavailable, that's one less mistake RM can make by bringing him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 19 hours ago, david in sweden said: " too lightweight ? ".....as I see it he's got more height and bulk than anyone else in midfield and still has a bit of pace. Dibling is a very promising youngster (who I'd like to see get the minutes instead of Mara) , but still looks like "a 10 stone weakling". Has time to grow. To be fair I haven’t watched Rothwell live, on the pitch. Just my impression is that we loose some midfield resilience when he comes on, which is ok if we are still dominating the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalSaintSO50 Posted yesterday at 00:23 Share Posted yesterday at 00:23 It’s a low bar but probably the worst player I’ve seen in 40 years watching us. Get rid 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted yesterday at 05:16 Share Posted yesterday at 05:16 I can take lack of ability, but not lack of effort. He has been cheating the club for a while. Definitely get rid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted yesterday at 05:43 Share Posted yesterday at 05:43 Ta-ra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted yesterday at 06:36 Share Posted yesterday at 06:36 Sadly for us, just that pass against Leeds on its own would disqualify Mara from being our worst player. By virtue of scoring at least one goal, he’s not even in our top ten. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted yesterday at 08:05 Share Posted yesterday at 08:05 (edited) On 16/04/2024 at 14:31, bpsaint said: He’s fucking shite, and one of the laziest players I’ve seen in a Saints shirt. On 16/04/2024 at 14:37, Sheaf Saint said: I don't think he's fucking shite, because he clearly has ability. But I completely agree with the second part. That 'performance' against Coventry last week was unforgiveable in terms of effort. Nope, he’s definitely shite. These Man City transfers want investigating, so much mediocre rubbish for so much money. EDIT: I thought he came from City. Edited yesterday at 08:21 by bpsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted yesterday at 08:10 Share Posted yesterday at 08:10 4 minutes ago, bpsaint said: Nope, he’s definitely shite. These Man City transfers want investigating, so much mediocre rubbish for so much money. Fair enough. We didn't sign him from City though 🫤 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted yesterday at 08:19 Share Posted yesterday at 08:19 8 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Fair enough. We didn't sign him from City though 🫤 Yeah my bad, I thought he came from City! Wonder if we can find a buyer in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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