S-Clarke Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I've given up on him now to be honest. Just get rid of him in the summer, ship him off for free. He looks shit at the level below we actually bought him for. He wouldn't even be useful at L2 level, hideous player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 8 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said: We have such better options. Could not understand that substitution. Agreed. Bizarre to be honest. I know he's not a winger but least he could have done was actually make an effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Surely SAA or Dibling should be on the bench ahead of this guy? Is it worth pissing them off for Mara? Absolutely not. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 10/01/2024 at 21:21, bpsaint said: Sulky Sekou just looks fucked off all the time and I’ve seen nothing so far to suggest he’ll go on to have a career anywhere other than some also ran club in Ligue 1. This was my opinion in January and it’s not changed a bit. Lazy and completely ineffective, he’s a waste of a spot on the bench. A few fans got a bit excited because he scored a couple of tap ins back in January and were convinced he had finally arrived! On 11/02/2024 at 13:12, BERMUDASAINT said: Are we getting another few pages of "I was so wrong about Mara". I hope so, if you could hand out the shite, surely you can eat it when so wrong on players abilities. How about the early Mara haters reflect on their abilty to judge a football players ability and realise they should just shut the fuck up! Also massive LOL at this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 His pitiful contribution this season has come almost entirely from late sub appearances when he has a huge fitness advantage. Somehow he still manages to look sluggish and off the pace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 The annoying this is that there's a player in there, but he just doesn't put the effort in, or appear interested in the cause. I wouldn't give any more minutes. Enough already. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 01/07/2023 at 20:15, SambaMaverick said: Lazy cunt My opinion last year was a bit more succinct, but I think accurate on the whole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 NGL I’ve seen my kids noses run quicker than him when they were 3 Looked like he didn’t realise he’s a “footballer” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 24/11/2023 at 21:16, skintsaint said: Sticking with it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) 7 hours ago, egg said: The annoying this is that there's a player in there, but he just doesn't put the effort in, or appear interested in the cause. This is it. He showed a glimpse of finding a bit of form during our decent run, and I dared to believe he might finally 'come good'. But the apathy he showed last night is just unforgivable. Edit: Thinking about it, maybe he was trying to prove a point to RM that he's not a winger, but there are better ways to do that. And quite why Russ decided to bring him on to play on the wing when we had Edozie and Sulemana on the bench, I will never understand. Edited April 10 by Sheaf Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 If Martin is going to play Mara it needs to be as a striker. He looked better through the middle for the last few minutes. In the same way Adam Armstrong looks better out wide than through the middle. He didn't look sharp last night at all. Still think he's worth persisting with. Obviously he's never going to shin, scuff or handle the ball into the net as often as Adams but then who is. I think he'd put away more conventional opportunities more often and probably trip over his own feet less often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said: Edit: Thinking about it, maybe he was trying to prove a point to RM that he's not a winger, but there are better ways to do that. And quite why Russ decided to bring him on to play on the wing when we had Edozie and Sulemana on the bench, I will never understand. Maybe RM was trying to make a point? "Make it difficult for me to drop you" or "here's a chance to earn a start" or the like. Whatever the motivation he threw the chance away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 9 hours ago, egg said: The annoying this is that there's a player in there, but he just doesn't put the effort in, or appear interested in the cause. I wouldn't give any more minutes. Enough already. We've had far too many of these in recent years unfortunatley. Much like Boufal & Lemina I'm sure he'll go on to have a decent career on the continent but lets get whatever we can for him in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitch Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I've pretty much all but given up. I know he's naturally suited more to a central role, but he came on last night and looked like he wasn't bothered about being there. Even if you're out of position, you can still run and close down etc. It was just a lack of effort. Saddens me as I think Mara is a talent, but hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. Ballard would have done more if he'd had the same opportunities IMO. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 26 minutes ago, kitch said: I've pretty much all but given up. I know he's naturally suited more to a central role, but he came on last night and looked like he wasn't bothered about being there. Even if you're out of position, you can still run and close down etc. It was just a lack of effort. Saddens me as I think Mara is a talent, but hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. Ballard would have done more if he'd had the same opportunities IMO. Was so pissed off with him just wandering around and doing fuck all to help the team out ggrrrrrr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Another classic example of the manager clearly seeing something in a player that 99.5% of those in the stands watching don't. Week in, week out. When a player like that is given so many chances over other (seemingly) more talented/interested players, you can't help but wonder if all that you know about the game is actually nothing at all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Particularly poor show last night. He has had much better games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 10/04/2024 at 10:36, waylander said: Particularly poor show last night. He has had much better games. Ironically I can’t think of many. Huddersfield cameo but no more than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Like Bunz, he definitely will grow and come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 7 hours ago, HKsaint said: Like Bunz, he definitely will grow and come good. Maybe, but not what we need right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Lazy , Lazy player ....the odd glimpse of a talent ....but absolutely shite in my opinion ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Rinse and repeat 🙄 why does Martin keep bringing Mara on!? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 23 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Rinse and repeat 🙄 why does Martin keep bringing Mara on!? Him and Che are the only physical forwards we have and their physicality helps them battle defenders and lay off balls for runners. The rest of our team are smurfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 4 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Him and Che are the only physical forwards we have and their physicality helps them battle defenders and lay off balls for runners. The rest of our team are smurfs. Calling Mara physical is a bit of a stretch, let's be honest. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curse of St Mary's Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 You don't bring Mara on when you only have a one goal lead and lost control of the game. RM needs to stop this madness. Mara is utter crap and so bloody lazy. Even RM recognised that his cameo on Tuesday was awful yet still gives an opportunity today. Truth be told if Ross Stewart was fit then Mara wouldn't even make the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 4 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Calling Mara physical is a bit of a stretch, let's be honest. Ask Martin as thats what he says but he is bigger and is a focal point when he plays in the middle. To be honest he did average today in his 15 mins, attempt at goal and no mistakes so not sure why this thread pops up. As an example today KWP got rinsed on the left so much Martin switched him to the right, so let's discuss that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 09/04/2024 at 23:37, egg said: The annoying this is that there's a player in there, but he just doesn't put the effort in, or appear interested in the cause. I wouldn't give any more minutes. Enough already. Struggling to see it. I think his ‘angled slide rule pass’ v Leeds (August 2022) is up there with, possibly overtaking, the Gaston Ramirez second half v Villa as flattering to deceive and clouding judgement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Lazy fucker. Bellis gave him a bit of a bollocking out there. Should be axed from the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 It's not worked out for him when he's placed out wide. He's clearly not to be relied on to chase lost causes when we're holding onto a lead. I'd like to think he's getting minutes because RM sees other players really tire, or knows he might have to rely on him should we get injuries up front. Even trying to rotate the squad as best he can with the fixture list, knowing the recovery each player has to have. But it does seem that he feels obligated to use all the subs, even when the game in front of him doesn't need it, or they will weaken us. If Che hadn't started he would have come on ahead of Mara. The same with Aribo, and if mobility scooters were allowed, Stewart would be ahead of him too, even injured. If he is on, he can get into decent striker positions. Often, by that stage we've chucked a lead and are struggling to find any pattern to our play, which won;t have helped him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 That sub scared the shit out of me, we weren't cruising in the game and we needed a focal point up top to hold the ball and give us an outlet - so we brought on Mara. I have no problem putting him on when we're 3-0 or 4-0 up, but not when we are in a tight game as he will hinder us. Hope we get a French club offering us something for him in the summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Shouldn’t be in a match day squad ever again. I said months ago was a lazy so and so he was. He brings absolutely nothing to the team other than severe anxiety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 minute ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Shouldn’t be in a match day squad ever again. I said months ago was a lazy so and so he was. He brings absolutely nothing to the team other than severe anxiety. I feel sorry for the likes of Dibling and SAA watching this guy get minutes on the pitch. They should both be way, way, ahead of him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Starting to piss me off. He shows glimpses, but just doesn't do enough. I know he's young, but I find it annoying now. I do think there's a player there. Maybe he'll be a late bloomer? His mum's fucking fit though. Id late bloom her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obstacle1 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Anyone remember how much he ran in the game at Anfield? If he did that every game he'd deserve some gametime, but he doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: I feel sorry for the likes of Dibling and SAA watching this guy get minutes on the pitch. They should both be way, way, ahead of him. They play different positions and are completely different players to him but sure. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miltonroad Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Absolute fraud. A poor man’s Frankie Bennett. No Saints player ever has done less to deserve their song. Imagine that lad at Fratton next year; playing with ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: That sub scared the shit out of me, we weren't cruising in the game and we needed a focal point up top to hold the ball and give us an outlet - so we brought on Mara. I have no problem putting him on when we're 3-0 or 4-0 up, but not when we are in a tight game as he will hinder us. Hope we get a French club offering us something for him in the summer. Maybe we can give him to Valenciennes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 39 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: They play different positions and are completely different players to him but sure. Mara came on and played right midfield, the same position SAA and Tibling play. So, sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Mara came on and played right midfield, the same position SAA and Tibling play. So, sure. For a specific reason that neither of them would have been able to provide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) 1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said: For a specific reason that neither of them would have been able to provide. Can you explain what specific reason Mara was brought onto the pitch for? As he didn't seem to provide anything to helped us. Edited April 13 by S-Clarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, S-Clarke said: That sub scared the shit out of me, we weren't cruising in the game and we needed a focal point up top to hold the ball and give us an outlet - so we brought on Mara. I have no problem putting him on when we're 3-0 or 4-0 up, but not when we are in a tight game as he will hinder us. Hope we get a French club offering us something for him in the summer. garlic......................................................................................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 9 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Can you explain what specific reason Mara was brought onto the pitch for? As he didn't seem to provide anything to helped us. On 10/04/2024 at 15:54, Fabrice29 said: I thought it was obvious this was to deal with the set pieces/physical threat they were having without messing up the set up? As above. Also this was echoed by Martin yesterday in his press conference. And, most pertinently, it was quite obvious that was the reason at the time by anyone watching the game I would have thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Sekou Mara could be handed a three match ban for an off the ball incident with a Watford player on Saturday. Shame… …said no one ever. 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24254507.southampton-forward-hit-three-match-fa-suspension/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 What, when did that happen? I watched the whole thing and don't remember it at all. The people celebrating this are a bit odd. He's scored 3 goals and got 2 assists in 487 minutes of game time this season, and is only 21 still. Anyone who's happy he won't be on the bench - who do you think steps in that provides a better option? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 18 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: What, when did that happen? I watched the whole thing and don't remember it at all. The people celebrating this are a bit odd. He's scored 3 goals and got 2 assists in 487 minutes of game time this season, and is only 21 still. Anyone who's happy he won't be on the bench - who do you think steps in that provides a better option? Jack Stephens 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 42 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: What, when did that happen? I watched the whole thing and don't remember it at all. The people celebrating this are a bit odd. He's scored 3 goals and got 2 assists in 487 minutes of game time this season, and is only 21 still. Anyone who's happy he won't be on the bench - who do you think steps in that provides a better option? I get really nervous when we bring him on in a game that's still on the edge, as when we're up against it he's a non-entity. His showing against Cov was one of the worst I've seen, and I've seen Charlie Austin. If he ran around, made his presence felt, tracked, then we could forgive him for his many technical shortcomings - but when he doesn't do any of the 'basics' it's hard to be too downhearted that he'll be missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 38 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: What, when did that happen? I watched the whole thing and don't remember it at all. The people celebrating this are a bit odd. He's scored 3 goals and got 2 assists in 487 minutes of game time this season, and is only 21 still. Anyone who's happy he won't be on the bench - who do you think steps in that provides a better option? I believe it happened right at the end just before the 3rd goal went in. The Watford manager and players were complaining about it post match saying there should have been a red card and that Downes handled the ball, so were doubly incensed. Can't say I saw exactly what happened but a Watford player was flat out in the pen area. Some of our so called supporters are more than a bit odd, Mara hasn't been great recently but he was brought on to do a job (at set pieces, defensively) and we won the game after he came on so who is to say that was a mistake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 46 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: What, when did that happen? I watched the whole thing and don't remember it at all. The people celebrating this are a bit odd. He's scored 3 goals and got 2 assists in 487 minutes of game time this season, and is only 21 still. Anyone who's happy he won't be on the bench - who do you think steps in that provides a better option? We could put on Sully or Edozie, we could put another in midfield or another centre half and shore it up we don’t have to play 4-3-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 The people who are slating Mara are idiots..... the lad is young still learning trade. Previously we have seen glimpses of what he is capable of. Said it before and will say it again technically is one of our better players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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