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    Quote Originally Posted by stevy777_x View Post
    Romeu is technically good but he can’t keep up with the pace anymore.
    Sadly you’re right, a good player but not mobile enough anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Munster View Post
    Yes, but the difference is that for the last few seasons we've often deserved to lose from winning positions due to mistakes. Since the 0-9 there's been a huge turn around mentally and we haven't been doing that. Tonight we didn't deserve to lose.

    The problem now is with JWP and Cedric out the good league form may not continue. Thankfully the run in fixtures look good.
    I agree with what you are saying but in the end we lost missing chances and conceding in the last 15 mins.

    Were you confident we were going to win when we went 2 1 up I certainly was not and neither was the team

    Probably we need a couple of players with the winning mentality

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    On way home from the game (North Circular possibly not the best choice #crawling)... One question... How the f*** did we lose that?

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    My money's on Turkish getting another 7 bites on this

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    We were very good for 70 minutes but too one dimensional when it mattered.

    Son is a whingey **** and they won’t get top 4.

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    I see your 7 and raise you 9

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianC View Post
    The sight of a player (Son) crawling around on the floor waving an imaginary card to try and influence the referee to book the opposition player is the most embarrassing sight.
    That in itself should be a bookable offence.
    It's childish, sad and pathetic.
    Man up and grow a pair.
    I noticed that as well, couldn't agree more, somebody needs to have a word with him but unfortunately i think that kind of behaviour is probably encouraged by some managers. Not the sort of thing that i would like to see our players doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    I see your 7 and raise you 9
    I lighthouse has come running to the rescue to cover up your hypocrisy.

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    On my way home and gutted. Too angry to post now. Will sleep on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    I lighthouse has come running to the rescue to cover up your hypocrisy.
    If you want to carry this on, it's nice and safe on the Duck Rape thread. Fill your boots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    I lighthouse has come running to the rescue to cover up your hypocrisy.
    Enough of that.

    You have no reason to question what someone else believes, or to harass them over it.

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    Feel almost like we lacked belief.
    Played really well till we actually took the lead and then let spurs off the hook rather meekly.
    Very annoying long trek home when looked like being a fab trip home based on much of the display.

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    Dog dirt

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    Same old story


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    Feel almost like we lacked belief.
    Played really well till we actually took the lead and then let spurs off the hook rather meekly.
    Very annoying long trek home when looked like being a fab trip home based on much of the display.
    Yes it seemed like we worked so hard throughout the match to get in front, dominating for much of the time really. But once we were in front, it looked like we stopped doing what we had done so well defensively up til then. At the end of the day we are still frail at the back and need more quality and know how. Spurs upped their game just a bit when they went behind and defensively we couldn't handle it.

    Annoying as we should have won this game comfortably based on performances of the 2 sides.

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    Only watched the second half. The Ings goal was the best birthday present ever. We seemed to fold after that. Gutted.

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    Anyone know why that bloke in the bottom tier was dragged out? Was all getting very messy, lots of people filming.

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    All that's happened is we had an extra game that we could have done without and 2 players picked up injuries. Would have rather lost the first game 1-0 and not had this fixture. The players could have had a rest and we could focus on finishing as high up the league as possible. I'm still not convinced that we won't end up in a relegation scrap, having facing two of our south coast rivals in the last three games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd View Post
    All that's happened is we had an extra game that we could have done without and 2 players picked up injuries. Would have rather lost the first game 1-0 and not had this fixture. The players could have had a rest and we could focus on finishing as high up the league as possible. I'm still not convinced that we won't end up in a relegation scrap, having facing two of our south coast rivals in the last three games.
    At least I've got something ludicrous to laugh at now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Same old story


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    And what story is that?

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    Really annoyed we lost that. The players deserve credit on one hand, as again we've gone away to a "big" club and been the better side. But at some point if we're to get anywhere we need to stop messing up games where we play this well.

    Spurs aren't a good side. They got extremely lucky against a city side who would have had 5 or 6 on another day. And we outplayed them for large parts of the match tonight.

    We were great before and after their lucky first goal. Right up until Ings superb goal. After that, we just didn't threaten at all. We sat back, we backed off and we let them back in. Poor defending to let Moura have the shot, but Gunn should save it IMO. Too many shots you see many top flight keepers save just creep in. He's not good enough for us yet, needs a season in the championship playing each week. Annoying we had our best team out there but didn't play our best keeper.

    Shame we didn't have anything left for injury time and any fightback. But everyone did their best. If we'd had Stephens at CB, JWP in midfield and a proper right back, we'd have won it comfortably.

    Ings and Long superb, Boufal and Redmond always a threat. The four of them just need to realise that they do have the ability to go into these games and score 3 or 4.

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    At least the good news seems to be that JWP's injury isn't as bad as it looked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    Really annoyed we lost that. The players deserve credit on one hand, as again we've gone away to a "big" club and been the better side. But at some point if we're to get anywhere we need to stop messing up games where we play this well.

    Spurs aren't a good side. They got extremely lucky against a city side who would have had 5 or 6 on another day. And we outplayed them for large parts of the match tonight.

    We were great before and after their lucky first goal. Right up until Ings superb goal. After that, we just didn't threaten at all. We sat back, we backed off and we let them back in. Poor defending to let Moura have the shot, but Gunn should save it IMO. Too many shots you see many top flight keepers save just creep in. He's not good enough for us yet, needs a season in the championship playing each week. Annoying we had our best team out there but didn't play our best keeper.

    Shame we didn't have anything left for injury time and any fightback. But everyone did their best. If we'd had Stephens at CB, JWP in midfield and a proper right back, we'd have won it comfortably.

    Ings and Long superb, Boufal and Redmond always a threat. The four of them just need to realise that they do have the ability to go into these games and score 3 or 4.
    Agree with all of this! This team need to be more clinical, full stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadoldgit View Post
    Only watched the second half. The Ings goal was the best birthday present ever. We seemed to fold after that. Gutted.
    Great spirit celebrating that goal, whole team in the corner really feeling it. Amazing scenes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianC View Post
    The sight of a player (Son) crawling around on the floor waving an imaginary card to try and influence the referee to book the opposition player is the most embarrassing sight.
    That in itself should be a bookable offence.
    It's childish, sad and pathetic.
    Man up and grow a pair.
    He's a cnt. First half he took a poor touch and our defender made a good interception to clear and we broke. Son just remains on the floor in the box whining and pretending to be injured. No one even touched him. He's one of those horrible players many don't seem to notice is a cheating little cnt.

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    I’m gutted. I fear Pellegrino-esque performances without JWP from now until the end of the season. I think 10 Points will be hard To find IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shroppie View Post
    At least the good news seems to be that JWP's injury isn't as bad as it looked.

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    Answered prayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    Answered prayer.
    Thanks to Adam Blackmore for requesting divine intervention on this one. Praise the lord!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie May View Post
    I’m gutted. I fear Pellegrino-esque performances without JWP from now until the end of the season. I think 10 Points will be hard To find IMO.
    Even without him we looked v good in parts. And he'll be back for Burnley anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie May View Post
    I’m gutted. I fear Pellegrino-esque performances without JWP from now until the end of the season. I think 10 Points will be hard To find IMO.
    His injury is not serious, it is a deep cut. He may even be back for the next game.

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    I watched the penalty in slow motion for 20 sec's and you can see Son on his way down before he gets to Gunn, and Gunn does not even touch him. So how does VAR not pick that up in 2 min's??

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    Gotta say the fans in lower section were great tonight. Great scenes when Ings scored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    Really annoyed we lost that. The players deserve credit on one hand, as again we've gone away to a "big" club and been the better side. But at some point if we're to get anywhere we need to stop messing up games where we play this well.

    Spurs aren't a good side. They got extremely lucky against a city side who would have had 5 or 6 on another day. And we outplayed them for large parts of the match tonight.

    We were great before and after their lucky first goal. Right up until Ings superb goal. After that, we just didn't threaten at all. We sat back, we backed off and we let them back in. Poor defending to let Moura have the shot, but Gunn should save it IMO. Too many shots you see many top flight keepers save just creep in. He's not good enough for us yet, needs a season in the championship playing each week. Annoying we had our best team out there but didn't play our best keeper.

    Shame we didn't have anything left for injury time and any fightback. But everyone did their best. If we'd had Stephens at CB, JWP in midfield and a proper right back, we'd have won it comfortably.

    Ings and Long superb, Boufal and Redmond always a threat. The four of them just need to realise that they do have the ability to go into these games and score 3 or 4.
    Agree with all you have said except I don't think you can blame Gunn for 2nd goal, well placed shot right in the corner.

    I actually think he hesitated slightly in coming out for the last goal though, if he'd have been quicker he would have got there before Son.

    I agree it's daft not picking your No1 keeper for a game like this.

    Both Tottenham's late goals were far too easy the way they cut through the middle of our midfield. Romeu and Hojbjerg definitely should do better, and Vestergaard predictably couldn't then cope with Moura running at him for the 2nd.

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    Anyway - we could upheld our performance more or less. We play on a much higher level consistently than at season start. And we complain about not taking something from LV or Tottenham, that is a good sign! We are not (yet) top four, that is obvious. It is not a drama to loose against such teams this season.

    The other clubs started to analyse our game and our defense, but nevertheless we still put our good performance on the pitch. With the new RB, JWP again on his position and Boufal getting better step by step we should have a good run in the updoming games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GDog07 View Post
    That woman pundit on BT Sport used the words “no doubt it’s a penalty, he’s made contact”

    It shows a close up of Gunn brushing his hand over Son’s knee.
    https://twitter.com/Im_Jammyyyy/stat...335406592?s=20

    Please tell me if I am being blind but I am pretty sure that Gunn gets contact with the ball with his foot before any 'supposed' contact with Son ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom View Post
    https://twitter.com/Im_Jammyyyy/stat...335406592?s=20

    Please tell me if I am being blind but I am pretty sure that Gunn gets contact with the ball with his foot before any 'supposed' contact with Son ???
    You are not blind. Gunn gets a touch on the ball with his foot before his hand brushes Son’s shorts. Ball before man, perfectly legal.

    With proper officiating we might have got extra time out of that.

    What is the point of VAR?

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    Knew we had lost when I woke up with a few texts with the same jokes, about Saints not being able to own a dog due to not being able to hold a lead or some other nonsense.

    Watched the match this morning and a typical Saints performance, don't make our dominance count and just concede willy nilly. End of the season for us. No cups to chase and can't see us going down as we will scrape the points needed. Our away form is not too bad and should be enough.

    Frustrating.

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    That was never a penalty

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    Ings tripped at Liverpool, no penalty. Son takes a dive at Tottenham, penalty. Game changing by the 'experts'.

    We were excellent until just after Ings buried that, conceded too soon and then we tired. ET may not have been kind to us.

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    Glad Ralph called it for what it was....great 70 minutes and then switched off, stopped defending well and ultimately it cost us

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsaint View Post
    Glad Ralph called it for what it was....great 70 minutes and then switched off, stopped defending well and ultimately it cost us
    And the main reason for that being that we had Vestergaard on at CB, and Romeu's legs had gone, which left us far too open and easy to get at through the middle.

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    Feel deflated after that, 'Better' team for most of the game, guilty of missing some very good chances, bit naive defending at times but got nothing from the useless officials, might as well scrap VAR the usual big club bias remains.
    Ward-prowse might just be a deep cut but depends what the cut went through, could still have damaged ligaments, fingers crossed as I think he deserves an England call up end of March.

    Great scenes in our end when Ings shot hit the back of the net, thought he played very well.

    Spurs fans the usual gobby cnts outside the ground, hate playing them.

    Shame to have another year with no cup interest going into spring.

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    Sterling was tripped by Lloris last week and that was not given as a pen, when it looked more like one to me, this looks like a clear dive and if he does get a touch its minimal, given as a pen, both cases not over turned.

    VAR is too scared to contradict refs, that was a clear and obvious error by the ref, Son was already going down and if there was contact it was not enough to bring him down, so they should be over ruling that.

    People make the fuss about the narrow offsides but at least that is objective and to the letter of the law, where VAR annoys me the most is in situations like this because it is confirming bad decisions of refs.

    Another good performance with very little to show for it. It shows I suppose where we really need to strengthen in the summer, our first 11 is good, at its best its very good and can cause problems to everyone, and we can freshen up our attackers and still provide a threat, Obafemi, Boufal, Djenepo etc. have all shown good cameos where they have come in for Ings, Redmond etc. but our rotation/sub options for midfield and central defence are not good enough. Romeu just doesn't cut it, he's never been that mobile and seems to have slowed even more and Vestergaard is clearly not good enough and should be sold.

    Of course signing good players in January for these positions was never going to be easy but if they eff them up over the summer then even if we start much better next season we'll have a season of promise that ultimately will disappoint and frustrate. We have to get some quality in centre-mid to help out Hojberg and JWP, and we have to get a centre-back upgrade. (but we've known that for 3 seasons). Then we might be able to see out games better.

    Had JWP not been injured I doubt we would have lost that game and had he not had to play right back then I doubt we would have conceded 4 against pool.

    The team has 10 days off now, sounds like JWP injury was not too bad, Armstrong has returned earlier and Valery/KWP should be fit and up to speed by then, so barring some training injuries we should have a full fit squad for Burnley and we can push on over these easier fixtures and maybe have a sneaky challenge for Europe.

    It would be very Saints though to play that well vs Pool and Spurs, then produce a flat dull performance at home to Burnley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheaf Saint View Post
    And the main reason for that being that we had Vestergaard on at CB, and Romeu's legs had gone, which left us far too open and easy to get at through the middle.
    The comments about Romeu are laughable ....he played quite well; his legs are not gone and a fit JWP in midfield would not have altered the result.

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    Where was Valery?

    from end of Jan

    Hasenhuttl said: “Yan Valery has been in training since the beginning of the week. Jannik Vestergaard is back from his concussion.
    “Everybody is fit.”

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    Incredibly unjust, and knowing that the media will make nothing of this only makes it worse. **** Son, the cheating horrible bastard.

    Hope we take the many positives from this game, that's what I will be focusing on. We look a bloody good team now and I hope we get to 40 points nice and quickly, to make a daring push for Europe (and beat Spurs to it); we can dream right?

    We played very well for almost the entirety, without a specialist RB. We should have kept the lead and won it, but boy do we play some nice stuff now. A far cry from the last few seasons. Onwards and upwards.

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    A pity but when will we learn that our lads will always be knackered after 60/70 minutes of our high intensity style of play? Once that happens concentration goes and the inevitable happens. Clever of Spurs to allow us to play high speed keep ball and run ourselves into the ground while waiting patiently to pick us off later.

    The lesson once again is that when we are dominant we MUST take our chances. We had plenty but once again our conversion rate is abysmal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd View Post
    All that's happened is we had an extra game that we could have done without and 2 players picked up injuries. Would have rather lost the first game 1-0 and not had this fixture. The players could have had a rest and we could focus on finishing as high up the league as possible. I'm still not convinced that we won't end up in a relegation scrap, having facing two of our south coast rivals in the last three games.
    Love your optimism! Explain how we will be in a relegation scrap having already grabbed 31 pts with 36 likely to be the total needed to stay up.

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