skintsaint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I do like that tone of articles i've seen today has shifted to us not wanting to sell. Still think the amounts being talked about for a likely attacking england starter at the peak of his career are insulting. £20M is a joke, add another 15M at least to that. Considering Felliani went for 27.5m I would agree we should get at least the same amount. Although Felliani has had a ****e season he was an influential player at Everton playing well, like AL. Similar ages too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Is £20m a joke? Things might have changed in a Bosman-esque way of sorts. FFP rules mean that clubs do have to think about how much they spend (or rather, most clubs do) so maybe the days of the vastly over priced transfer is over. Maybe not - I guess time will tell, and the rich will get richer, while the poor just look on and help support these "elite" clubs make even more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Its cringeworthy watching this WUM troll backtracking, at least Barry Sanchez held his ground (RIP). Don't you mean spit on his grave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Well sorry to disappoint you, but there really isn't anything to say. The club probably don't give minute by minute updates to players parents regarding transfer news, and nor do their sons for that matter. Besides, despite the fact that he is pretty open and happy to talk about Adam, I really don't feel comfortable about taking advantage and grilling him. Well done kpturner great attitude and absolutely the correct way to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 If you can't reveal your source then fair enough although it would be nice to know some details about them I.e. Another player, coach, director, taxi driver etc I would also say if not true you should be banned from the forum for giving us all false hope. Will you agree to that or are you honest enough to admit its bull**** now? I do hope you are right btw just can't see it. Ewell right or wrong he is not answerable to you and free to post whatever he may have heard even if it turns out to be false! Just like every other potential ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Its cringeworthy watching this WUM troll backtracking, at least Barry Sanchez held his ground (RIP). cringeworthy is your post holepuncture. Ever heard of Freedom of Speech. This is a Forum nothing more. If you want to know the truth then you will have to wait until official word. Otherwise accept word of mouth and speculation until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 (edited) A perfect example of headlines versus fact right here.... http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/475795/Adam-Lallana-prepares-TRANSFER-REQUEST-to-seal-Liverpool-move Journalists... Edited 14 May, 2014 by farawaysaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 cringeworthy is your post holepuncture. Ever heard of Freedom of Speech. This is a Forum nothing more. If you want to know the truth then you will have to wait until official word. Otherwise accept word of mouth and speculation until then. This is a private message board. Why in earth is anyone entitled to freedom of speech on such a place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 This is a private message board. Why in earth is anyone entitled to freedom of speech on such a place Good point, if I may say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 He has a 4 year deal why does he need to sign another? All sorts of reasons but probably for more money. It may be that the club now feel more secure about staying in the Premier League than when the present one was offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Considering Felliani went for 27.5m I would agree we should get at least the same amount. Although Felliani has had a ****e season he was an influential player at Everton playing well, like AL. Similar ages too. Lallana's english too which adds an extra premium on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 A perfect example of headlines versus fact right here.... http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/475795/Adam-Lallana-prepares-TRANSFER-REQUEST-to-seal-Liverpool-move Journalists... Good spot and good post. Another person 'gets it' thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan17 Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 5m Liverpool Echo reporting a new improved bid for Adam Lallana #saintsfc Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 A perfect example of headlines versus fact right here.... http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/475795/Adam-Lallana-prepares-TRANSFER-REQUEST-to-seal-Liverpool-move Journalists... Love the concept of him "preparing" a request. Is he sitting at the kitchen table with a pencil and paper saying "Mum, how do I spell 'request' and does my address go at the top right of the letter?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Well the Star are certainly covering all the bases. Ads is off to Spuds with MP now????? http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/378843/Liverpool-fear-LOSING-Adam-Lallana-to-Tottenham-if-they-poach-Southampton-s-Pochettino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 5m Liverpool Echo reporting a new improved bid for Adam Lallana #saintsfc Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More Well, with 2 bids in 3 days, we should sit tight and wait to see how badly they want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Well the Star are certainly covering all the bases. Ads is off to Spuds with MP now????? http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/378843/Liverpool-fear-LOSING-Adam-Lallana-to-Tottenham-if-they-poach-Southampton-s-Pochettino "pacey winger" they've clearly done their research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Considering Felliani went for 27.5m I would agree we should get at least the same amount. Although Felliani has had a ****e season he was an influential player at Everton playing well, like AL. Similar ages too. Regardless of his very poor season at Utd he was very very good last year at Everton. And basically it was a rushed signing after Utd had failed with other transfers summed up by the fact Moyes bought him after his buy out clause ran out, Everton knew that. Though I do think Lallana should be worth 30m its hard to quantify any fees when you get the likes of costa and aguero going for similar prices to Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Regardless of his very poor season at Utd he was very very good last year at Everton. And basically it was a rushed signing after Utd had failed with other transfers summed up by the fact Moyes bought him after his buy out clause ran out, Everton knew that. Though I do think Lallana should be worth 30m its hard to quantify any fees when you get the likes of costa and aguero going for similar prices to Carroll. Aguero and Costa had buyout clauses - puts a lid on what they could fetch in a truly open and insane market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Aguero and Costa had buyout clauses - puts a lid on what they could fetch in a truly open and insane market. I did know that, I was just making a point that the market tends to be pretty unpredictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I did know that, I was just making a point that the market tends to be pretty unpredictable It wasn't a very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 It wasn't a very good point. Id expect you to struggle with footballing analagies anyway TBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 It wasn't a very good point. every point is a good point in premier league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Paddy Power offered me 2/1 for Lallana to stay last night but it was via special request to their traders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Good spot and good post. Another person 'gets it' thankfully. Medals all round... Don't equate Express reporters with journalists generally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 5m Liverpool Echo reporting a new improved bid for Adam Lallana #saintsfc Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More this cant be true, PATRED on the uglies says this is all work of NC trying to stir it all up he is ITK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 (edited) Kracken, you have until to 9am 14/5 to accept bet Accepted! £20 it is. Am I too late? Edited 14 May, 2014 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Sorry Krackenbet, I talked a bloke at work into giving me 2-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Sorry Krackenbet, I talked a bloke at work into giving me 2-1 i talked a bird at work into giving me 1 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 this cant be true, PATRED on the uglies says this is all work of NC trying to stir it all up he is ITK When people talk about the good posters that no longer post here...he certainly isn't one of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 14 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Well sorry to disappoint you, but there really isn't anything to say. The club probably don't give minute by minute updates to players parents regarding transfer news, and nor do their sons for that matter. Besides, despite the fact that he is pretty open and happy to talk about Adam, I really don't feel comfortable about taking advantage and grilling him. My mum and sister do not even know where I work, the fact I quit my job and started a new one, or if it was for more or less money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 i talked a bird at work into giving me 1 too Can I just state for the record, you Bear have been in exceptional form today. If I wasn't so scared of what I might meet, I'd gladly buy you a pint in the real world for the laffs and giggles you've supplied just this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I was told tonight (and believe me the person would know) that Adam genuinely hasn't made up his mind and was only focused on the world cup. I accept that the person who told me could have done so just to shut me up (as I have been badgering her for some info), but I did get the feeling it was true. I was also told some of the details of what Liverpool are offering, but am not going to post that. Only that the conversation ended "what would you do"? And a laugh. But it was "what would you do" in a "its a no brainer" way which worried me. People can believe me if they want or think I'm full of pony, but I know it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Cheers for posting mate. Goes with what I've heard really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I was told tonight (and believe me the person would know) that Adam genuinely hasn't made up his mind and was only focused on the world cup. I accept that the person who told me could have done so just to shut me up (as I have been badgering her for some info), but I did get the feeling it was true. I was also told some of the details of what Liverpool are offering, but am not going to post that. Only that the conversation ended "what would you do"? And a laugh. But it was "what would you do" in a "its a no brainer" way which worried me. People can believe me if they want or think I'm full of pony, but I know it happened. Do you get a sense anything will be tied up before the WC, as Hodgson seems to be urging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 (edited) Article via the scousers in tonight's times - suggesting the bid is only £17m. A good read on the whole. Franchising out youth development expertise is a new one. Edited 14 May, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Rory Smith is the best football writer in the country and he's nailed it there, as he does in everything he writes. A great read and very fair-minded. Should remind everyone that nothing is done and we only have hunches to rely on as a guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Good read that. Worrying that he suggests the offers have not been rejected as reported. Also worrying that the Lallana bid is lower than I would of anticipated. Indeed it would be interesting to see how this all played out with Don Cortese at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPete Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Good read that. Worrying that he suggests the offers have not been rejected as reported. Also worrying that the Lallana bid is lower than I would of anticipated. Indeed it would be interesting to see how this all played out with Don Cortese at the helm. Surely a £17 million pound bid would be rejected out of hand, especially with the 25% sell on clause. That'd only leave us with £12.75 million for an English international who made the PFA player of the year shortlist and has four years left on his contract. We bought two players for about that much last year. Would be madness to sell our best player for the same amount, especially considering the length of his contract, his status within the club, the "English premium" and with all the extra TV money coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 Absolutely no chance they'll get him for £17M If that figure's correct and we haven't already rejected it, it's either because we're not going to bother replying at all, or we're just waiting to eat up transfer window time and leave them with less to play with and push his value up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 Absolutely no chance they'll get him for £17M If that figure's correct and we haven't already rejected it, it's either because we're not going to bother replying at all, or we're just waiting to eat up transfer window time and leave them with less to play with and push his value up. Or, there is a release clause in AL's contract, just thinking aloud here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 Or, there is a release clause in AL's contract, just thinking aloud here! I would be surprised it would be that low with the 25% included. Especially with NC doing the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 No chance we would accept £17m. How much did they pay for Carroll again? And Henderson? £25 million seems more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 Surely a £17 million pound bid would be rejected out of hand, especially with the 25% sell on clause. That'd only leave us with £12.75 million for an English international who made the PFA player of the year shortlist and has four years left on his contract. We bought two players for about that much last year. Would be madness to sell our best player for the same amount, especially considering the length of his contract, his status within the club, the "English premium" and with all the extra TV money coming in. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 No chance we would accept £17m. How much did they pay for Carroll again? And Henderson? £25 million seems more realistic. £25m is realistic if we wanted to sell him. Taking in to account the fact he is our most important player, the fact he's in the PFA player of the year, he is English, the new TV money, the remaining 4 years on his contract and the fact that the club (I hope) don't want to sell him, tell them its £40m or nothing. If they want him it should be on our terms, not theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 £25m is realistic if we wanted to sell him. Taking in to account the fact he is our most important player, the fact he's in the PFA player of the year, he is English, the new TV money, the remaining 4 years on his contract and the fact that the club (I hope) don't want to sell him, tell them its £40m or nothing. If they want him it should be on our terms, not theirs. Then he hands in a transfer request and we have to sell for a knock down price, IF (and it's a big if), the rumours are true and Adam is at least considering his options we'll just aggravate him if we set unrealistic terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 Then he hands in a transfer request Then he loses $$$$ personally. Not sure AL would do that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 Beginning to wonder if Liverpool are getting cold feet on this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 I read on the Red Button that apparently he is going to be off to Spuds with MP (according to the Star). Oh it's so tedious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 15 May, 2014 Share Posted 15 May, 2014 I read on the Red Button that apparently he is going to be off to Spuds with MP (according to the Star). Oh it's so tedious. Can't see Spurs needing him with Erikson there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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