SO16_Saint Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 except, we are.only on saints web are people saying we are not/denying itthe team that played against united a few months ago (which was largely the first team)Boruc - on way out - NOT HAPPY NOT BEING NUMBER 1, UNWILLING TO FIGHT FOR PLACECork - on way out - SEEMINGLY NOT NEEDED BY CLUBchambers - gone - OFFERED GOOD MONEY, WENT TOO EARLY IMOlovren - gone - CLEARLY DIDNT WANT TO BE HEREshaw - gone - SAW THE LURE OF MONEY AND BETTER NANDOS IN MANCHESTERlallana - gone - SEE LOVRENlambert - gone - SURPRISED BY THIS ONE, BOYHOOD CLUBmorgan - desperate to leave - SEE LOVRENthrow in rodriguez injured and clearly wants outthat is very different from any team in the league/country (outside of blackpool)Answers above... would you REALLY want players here who dont want to play for us? I wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Answers above... would you REALLY want players here who dont want to play for us? I wouldn't. Cork wanted to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Answers above... would you REALLY want players here who dont want to play for us? I wouldn't. cork wanted to stay. many people here have actually spoken to him and he told them he wanted to stay. his dad, wanted him to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Very disappointed if he is sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 cork wanted to stay. many people here have actually spoken to him and he told them he wanted to stay. his dad, wanted him to stay thats as maybe. What is so hard to understand (not specifically you) - it is a 2-way decision... just because he wants to stay, doesnt mean that the club want him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 except, we are. only on saints web are people saying we are not/denying it the team that played against united a few months ago (which was largely the first team) Boruc - on way out Cork - on way out chambers - gone lovren - gone shaw - gone lallana - gone lambert - gone morgan - desperate to leave throw in rodriguez injured and clearly wants out that is very different from any team in the league/country (outside of blackpool) Here is my exodus XI RODRIGUEZ LAMBERT OSVALDO LALLANA CORK MORGAN SHAW LOVREN CHAMBERS CORK BORUC Not bad team! Not sure we're gonna be able to shift Jay Rod + Morgan this window tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Here is my exodus XI RODRIGUEZ LAMBERT OSVALDO LALLANA CORK MORGAN SHAW LOVREN CHAMBERS CORK BORUC Not bad team! Not sure we're gonna be able to shift Jay Rod + Morgan this window tho that would probably beat the team that stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andoru Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Here is my exodus XI RODRIGUEZ LAMBERT OSVALDO LALLANA CORK MORGAN SHAW LOVREN CHAMBERS CORK BORUC Not bad team! Not sure we're gonna be able to shift Jay Rod + Morgan this window tho I've made a Fantasy Football team along similar lines. Threw in a couple of other former Saints to make up the numbers (Walcott, Chamberlain, Baird, Crouch, Puncheon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 that would probably beat the team that stays 2 Corks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Here is my exodus XI RODRIGUEZ LAMBERT OSVALDO LALLANA CORK MORGAN SHAW LOVREN CHAMBERS CORK BORUC Not bad team! Not sure we're gonna be able to shift Jay Rod + Morgan this window tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Oh I'm playing Cork twice Might have to draft in Guly RODRIGUEZ LAMBERT OSVALDO LALLANA MORGAN GULY SHAW LOVREN CHAMBERS CORK BORUC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Cork is a decent squad player but his problem is that he isnt as good at DM as Wanyama or Schneiderlin; offers little creativly or goal threat, cant play on the wings and isnt as good as Clyne at right back. Which begs the question why would you keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Answers above... would you REALLY want players here who dont want to play for us? I wouldn't. Like Morgan you mean? Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 I really don't see the benefit of selling him for £3m, even if he would go for nothing at the end of the season. He's worth paying £3m for based on how he's played over the past 2 seasons and I'd keep him on that basis. "Seven players" is pushing it a bit - we've got no guarantees re: Schneiderlin, even Wanyama was quoted as "wanting to play CL football" early in the transfer window, and good though he looked in the 20 minutes I've seen of him, Taider might not fit in over a longer period. Reed's got everything to prove, Ward-Prowse is getting to Cork's level but isn't there yet, and of course Davis has been excellent. I just don't think getting rid of Cork is a good idea at the moment. Give it til Xmas when we know how this works during matches, and if we still want to move him on then, there will be a club in the bottom 6 desperate for his type of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Squad player who wants first team football on a regular basis...one year to go on his contract and can't agree terms on a new contract. Club can't offer him better terms or guarantee him more time on the field...what would you do? Personally I think it unfortunate but the outcome inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 It does make you wonder if all the premiership scouts are wandering about with their heads up their jacksies . We have a great little player , available at an unbelievably cheap price and only crystal palace seem interested. Why aren't spurs,Everton,stoke,west ham, villa , hull or wba chasing up this bargain. It appears that not only RK & Les are complete idiots for failing to see how great the guy is, but half the premier league managers and their scouting network are also complete clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 I'd rather keep him around and lose out on the £3m to be honest. On a related side-note - Does this mean we will actually sign a right back now? (Since Corky was earmarked to fill in there as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 I can't believe that we are about to sell one of our best remaining players for 3m and spend 12.5m on Shane Long - have Koeman and the board lost their minds? This season is going to be naff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 I wonder if by selling Cork we can throw more wages at other players who we are trying to keep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Joel Ward the other way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Disappointed by this if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Joel Ward the other way? You heard something CL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirral saint Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Are we really selling Corky? It appears in the paper and is then taken as "Gospel" while other things that appear in the papers are dismissed out of hand! I'll reserve judgement for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Joel Ward the other way? If nothing else it would **** the Skates off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 (edited) selling him just shows that ralph is full of shyte (as if we didnt know that already) Perhaps the decision was made by Koeman or Reed? (assuming this is true) Edited 14 August, 2014 by sadoldgit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 I can't believe that we are about to sell one of our best remaining players for 3m and spend 12.5m on Shane Long - have Koeman and the board lost their minds? This season is going to be naff. Sums up my view completely. I'm about done with this season and it hasn't even kicked off yet. The club i love being an object of mockery and in utter freefall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 3m for cork is obscene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Are we really selling Corky? It appears in the paper and is then taken as "Gospel" while other things that appear in the papers are dismissed out of hand! I'll reserve judgement for now. Far too sensible mate. Far better to believe everything you read and spit your dummy out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 3m for cork is obscene Gotta agree. £3m for one of our best performers last year & would be a deffo start for me when Morgan goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarmy Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 I can't believe that we are about to sell one of our best remaining players for 3m and spend 12.5m on Shane Long - have Koeman and the board lost their minds? This season is going to be naff. I think he's a good player, but "one of our best remaining players"? In line with the general tone of hysterical overreaction round here ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 that would probably beat the team that stays There is no probably about it, easy win on the cards with that 11. People who think we are almost as strong as last year's squad need slapping. They are happily lapping up the lack of ambition and shameful way our potential has been dismantled. They will also never admit that we have become worse in any way as it means praising Cortese who that camp were always so desperate to be rid of. They wanted to go back to the "old" bumbling around saints... well ladies and gentlemen, they look to be back. Once morgan, cork and jayrod are gone, there really is very little left of the dream or the memories! #ItHappenedButNowAsWeWantedItTo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 The club i love being an object of mockery and in utter freefall. I don't know how I'm going to cope with the thought of never watching the great man in a Saints shirt again. I'll always remember where I was when I heard the news , a true Lady Di moment for me. I don't know if I can face the humiliation of seeing my work mates knowing that we only got £3mil for him, they're going to really rub it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 I am laughing at the stupidity of those that are posting "Dont need Cork, we've got Morgan + others" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Sadly, we've just got to get used to the idea that last seasons team and style is gone and we are in a new era, may be worse might be better but its a different manager with different style, different players and we just have to get behind them. But I shall always wonder what would have happened if Cotese had stayed and we had built on his vision instead of dismantling it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Clearly Cork has no ambition and is happy to plod around the bottom half of the EPL. We don't need players with this 'Dell sized mentality'. If he was good enough, he'd be in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 He's a squad player in our midfield.. least of our worries in terms of squad depth He's more than that. We need him. Especially if Spiderman goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Squad player who wants first team football on a regular basis...one year to go on his contract and can't agree terms on a new contract. Club can't offer him better terms or guarantee him more time on the field...what would you do? Personally I think it unfortunate but the outcome inevitable. Sounds a fair assessment of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Those old contracts must have had some very unsustainable add-ons to want to get rid of everyone on them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Cork is a decent squad player but his problem is that he isnt as good at DM as Wanyama or Schneiderlin; offers little creativly or goal threat, cant play on the wings and isnt as good as Clyne at right back. Which begs the question why would you keep him. Do you really believe the Morgan will be staying? Do you think Wanyama with his style of play, won't pick up a few suspensions and injuries? I thought the aim was to build up a decent squad to ensure competition in all positions? Not decimate it and replace with players unproven at Prem level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 None of those teams have sold their entire first team spine, though. There's tranisiton with the squad, and then there's a total gutting and rebuilding of a team. We're the latter. Very true so we should get behind the club as they build for the future what has happened has happened we can do nothing about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Those old contracts must have had some very unsustainable add-ons to want to get rid of everyone on them... Probably a "get into Europe and you'll get triple wages / huge £xxm bonus" or something stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Gotta agree. £3m for one of our best performers last year & would be a deffo start for me when Morgan goes. Very impressive every since he joined us. Only lost his place for spell when Wanyama arrived and then came back as strong as ever when opportunity arose. Morgan's clearly not staying for long-term whatsoever and getting rid of this excellent performer for peanuts is crazy. He should be a fixture in the line-up not cheap as chips sale to Palace, massively strengthening them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 I think he's a good player, but "one of our best remaining players"? In line with the general tone of hysterical overreaction round here ... Given the general tenor of this thread, I'd hardly say it was an overreaction.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich102 Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Deal of the window for Palace. Inexplicable that we don't want to keep one of our most consistent performers from last year, especially when the rest of the team is getting weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 If I was unhappy at work and wanted to leave, would my firm just let me go? Why is it any different for footballers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 I wonder if by selling Cork we can throw more wages at other players who we are trying to keep? That is unlikely. Cork is not highly paid given that he was signed to a championship contract and we have plenty of salary cap room right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 If I was unhappy at work and wanted to leave, would my firm just let me go? Why is it any different for footballers? But surely you'd just go on a self-imposed strike until you got your way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Puncheon and Cork. Deals of the Year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 I fear that our club is being run by complete clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 14 August, 2014 Share Posted 14 August, 2014 Puncheon and Cork. Deals of the Year! Good point. I remember loads of b*tchng and whinging on here when he was sold, but he hardly set the world alight at Palace did he? In fact I think they still don't really like him that much ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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