Sour Mash Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Its becoming clearer than it was before that as a club we are not able to keep players or managers, we are not attractive enough long term and Les Reed (and others) are not persuasive enough of the club's ambitions (probably because our ambitions are not as great as the Board would like us to believe). Of course, we will no doubt replace Victor with some one else and maybe it will work out, and maybe it won't. Really bad in my opinion not to at least wait until we have a new manager in place, and even worse to agree to sell him to Spurs. But making a profit is the goal nowadays. Is this a serious post or just a parody of a bed wetter? I can't work it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Is this a serious post or just a parody of a bed wetter? I can't work it out. Judging by previous drivel he's posted, he actually means this sh it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 (edited) He really won't. He's one of the best DMs around. People said the same about Morgan....saints fans seem to have become quite good at over estimating how good players who leave us are the last few seasons. Edited 17 June, 2016 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Is this a serious post or just a parody of a bed wetter? I can't work it out. I'm going with Joke... can't believe he is being serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 So, ambrose, Ledley and commons played in that game too. Ah OK then, I missed their goals. Are they on YouTube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 (edited) Ah OK then, I missed their goals. Are they on YouTube? Oh right so you're CL if you score a goal. Edit: Top 4 should be snapping up Tony Watt then! Edited 17 June, 2016 by Webby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 I might be making a huge assumption here, but I am getting the distinct impression that you don't like Les Reed? Visible from space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 That's some team (and management team) we have lost in two years. Good enough to win the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 That's some team (and management team) we have lost in two years. Good enough to win the league? We finished higher without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 We finished higher without them. I bet we would have finished EVEN higher with them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 yawn........... We don't know how much Wanyama has been sold for. He was always going. Many seem to forget that Saints are about more than an individual, no matter how talented (or otherwise) they may be. This is why most players struggle (at least for a season) when they leave. Of all the high profile leavers you would have to say Toby is the only one who that could not apply to. Lovren, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Morgan and even Clyne have not performed at the same level as they did at Saints. For me this shows that the club are doing a lot of things right - when people leave they are replaced well and we don't seem to miss a beat. Quite what Wanyama will add to that Spurs side I have no idea. He is not as good as he thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 I really thought when he got suspended for the last time last season that we'd push on without him and be ok, but I'll never forget how his introduction against Liverpool completely changed the game and made me realise just how important he is to us. He will be a huge loss, and tough to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 I really thought when he got suspended for the last time last season that we'd push on without him and be ok, but I'll never forget how his introduction against Liverpool completely changed the game and made me realise just how important he is to us. He will be a huge loss, and tough to replace. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 We've had at least a year to source a replacement, which is the only comfort I can find as he'll be a big loss. Glad to see from the article we've rejected a part exchange with Mason or Bentaleb, although the latter wouldn't have been a huge disaster. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Fine. Wish him well and hope he doesn't suffer the same fate as several other players who left after we bought them into the PL. Club will already have a replacement sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 We've had at least a year to source a replacement, which is the only comfort I can find as he'll be a big loss. Glad to see from the article we've rejected a part exchange with Mason or Bentaleb, although the latter wouldn't have been a huge disaster. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Totally agree with the above. The board have known this has been coming long enough to have identified suitable replacements. He has gone, lets move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 yawn........... We don't know how much Wanyama has been sold for. He was always going. Many seem to forget that Saints are about more than an individual, no matter how talented (or otherwise) they may be. This is why most players struggle (at least for a season) when they leave. Of all the high profile leavers you would have to say Toby is the only one who that could not apply to. Lovren, Shaw, Lallana, Chambers, Morgan and even Clyne have not performed at the same level as they did at Saints. For me this shows that the club are doing a lot of things right - when people leave they are replaced well and we don't seem to miss a beat. Quite what Wanyama will add to that Spurs side I have no idea. He is not as good as he thinks he is. THIS ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Its becoming clearer than it was before that as a club we are not able to keep players or managers, we are not attractive enough long term and Les Reed (and others) are not persuasive enough of the club's ambitions (probably because our ambitions are not as great as the Board would like us to believe). Of course, we will no doubt replace Victor with some one else and maybe it will work out, and maybe it won't. Really bad in my opinion not to at least wait until we have a new manager in place, and even worse to agree to sell him to Spurs. But making a profit is the goal nowadays. Honestly, I do wonder how some people cope when they find out there is no milk in the fridge; is it a complete blubbering wreck on floor time? **** sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Shouldn't Reed at least do the new manager the courtesy of waiting for him to arrive before selling our players? I hope that we can maintain the progress we made under Koeman but I'm beginning to get concerned about the increasing level of Reed's interference in managerial duties. I'm beginning to get concerned that you are a fu cking moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 I'm beginning to get concerned that you are a fu cking moron. only beginning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 I don't understand why people keep pooping their pants when things like this happen - haven't you seen what we've achieved over the last 3 years??? The club will have been aware of this for a while and so will already have been putting our exceptional scouting system into action to find a suitable (and better) replacement. This process that found Wanyama in the first place. Plus, it will probably give opportunities to a very promising young player we have called Harrison Reed who seems to have been frozen out and forgotten recently. This is likely to keep him tied to the club for longer. We really do have some soppy fans who cry for their wet-nurse at the earliest opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Shouldn't Reed at least do the new manager the courtesy of waiting for him to arrive before selling our players? I hope that we can maintain the progress we made under Koeman but I'm beginning to get concerned about the increasing level of Reed's interference in managerial duties. Not a problem. It creates room for the new manager to bring in someone who is his own choice. As for Vic I think he may struggle to fit in at Tottenham. The fans there tend to prefer players who can pass to their teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 I don't understand why people keep pooping their pants when things like this happen - haven't you seen what we've achieved over the last 3 years??? The club will have been aware of this for a while and so will already have been putting our exceptional scouting system into action to find a suitable (and better) replacement. This process that found Wanyama in the first place. Plus, it will probably give opportunities to a very promising young player we have called Harrison Reed who seems to have been frozen out and forgotten recently. This is likely to keep him tied to the club for longer. We really do have some soppy fans who cry for their wet-nurse at the earliest opportunity. Apparently it's all luck..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Meh , still not forgiven him for refusing to play in the Europa league ! #wemarchon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Won't be long any sleep over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Apparently it's all luck..... Yes..........., the sort of luck that will hopefully bring Puel to us manager who will then bring Nice's Nampalys Mendy - who is a major upgrade on Victor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Won't be long any sleep over this. I'm totally relaxed about Meltdown3. Tbh I was calm about Meltdown2 as well. This is our model. It's working. Please carry on SFC. If anything we've held onto VW one year too long in terms of maximising profit. However, we couldn't lose MS and VW in the same window. Nice little bit of trickle-down going to Celtic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Oh well, he's been a good signing for us and is very good at what he does, but also rather limited. When he's really on it he is immense, but he is too inconsistent and his attitude is questionable. Think a lot of fans never forgave him for his tantrum before the Midtjelland game. Also a bit surprised he's gone to Spurs as I don't think he suite their style of play. They have a young vibrant team and Vic is quite slow and immobile. Will be interesting to see how he fits in there. It's a blow to lose him but as we showed on occasions when he was suspended last season, we'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Brilliant player and will be almost impossible to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Brilliant player and will be almost impossible to be replaced. Congratulations to Les Reed for making such a brilliant signing then, Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 (edited) Morgan is a great player who like many at man utd performed erratically under a poor manager. He is not a " great " player . Off the top of my head I could name half a dozen better Saints midfielders than him . Edited 17 June, 2016 by Lord Duckhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Brilliant player and will be almost impossible to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Not a great player.... Ok then still young massive potential thank you for the service Victor. Could we put in a bid for Tilemans please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Brilliant player and will be almost impossible to be replaced. bet you said the same about Morgan, Lallana, Lovern, Clyne, Shaw, Chambers, Lambert and poch......and yet the club is doing OK:? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 He is not a " great " player . Off the top of my head I could name half a dozen better Saints midfielders than him . So Saints have only had 6 great midfielders over the years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Celtic get around 20% of that £11m too They get 20% of the profit don't they? So **** all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 They get 20% of the profit don't they? So **** all. Think it's 20% of the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 So Saints have only had 6 great midfielders over the years? Now , I'm sure you're just being obtuse , but to give you the benefit of the doubt as I'm a generous soul . I said " off the top of my head " I could name half a dozen better players than him. " Off the top of my head " is normally used to indicate that without thinking ( something I'm sure you'll accuse me of ) there is something better . I was merely trying to point out that in my humble opinion Morgan is not a " great " player , in fact he's not even " great" in Southampton terms, but you knew that was what I meant , so don't really understand your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Three years with us so I reckon he's done his bit. A transfer to a club in the Champions League probably suits his career progression which he is entitled to pursue, just like anyone else. Move on. Agree with this - Wanyama's been great for us; just about the best DM going around - Spurs have a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 I really thought when he got suspended for the last time last season that we'd push on without him and be ok, but I'll never forget how his introduction against Liverpool completely changed the game and made me realise just how important he is to us. He will be a huge loss, and tough to replace. Quite right; he did get a bit of help from Mane that day, who also came on at H/T. Vic's a big loss, Mane would be an even bigger one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Not sure why some are so critical of Wanyama in this - it's our decision whether we accept a bid for him surely? £11m a very good value signing for Spurs if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Think it's 20% of the sale. It's 10%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 He really won't. He's one of the best DMs around. Spurs have 2 better players than him in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Put in a £25m bid for Krychowiak from Sevilla and see where we get with that Him and Romeu would be outrageously good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Agree it's a big loss but absolutely nothing we could do about it ! In this day and age with one year left and refusal to sign a new contract, you just have to cash in ! Sad but true ! We didn't 'need' to cash in so the fee was rediculously low! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 We will need to replace him with some height. The side has been strong defensively against set pieces for many years with the likes of Lambert. Pelle and Wanayama supplementing the centre backs. We see to be losing a little in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 I'm beginning to get concerned that you are a fu cking moron. Calm down and take a look at yourself mate !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 Agree it's a big loss but absolutely nothing we could do about it ! In this day and age with one year left and refusal to sign a new contract, you just have to cash in ! Sad but true ! We didn't 'need' to cash in so the fee was rediculously low! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 June, 2016 Share Posted 17 June, 2016 See ya mr 87% accuracy. The 13 % are the ones that matter though. #overratedbyplums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 18 June, 2016 Share Posted 18 June, 2016 We didn't 'need' to cash in so the fee was rediculously low! Yeah , let's let him run his contract down , play shiete, and get nothing for him this time next year . Good plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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