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Anyone else expecting a quiet transfer window?

 

In rough terms, I’d expect the loaned players to not return and little other activity.

 

I think a quality CB is a top priority, not so sure on CF (need quality, rather than depth in this role, whereas at CB I think we need someone to relegate Stephens to 5th choice, not necessarily a £20m first choice)

 

Obviously, we have zero cover at RB, but other than that, I’d expect to simply replace what we lose (eg if Lemina goes, a new CM...if Bertrand goes, a new LB etc).

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Why include Ings?

 

He's ours. He signed a 4 or 5 year pre-contract last summer, which kicks in during July 2019 when the obliged transfer with Liverpool for £18m finalises. He won't go back and we won't be selling him after buying him.

 

Exactly. He's come in for a bit of stick recently but he's done a great job for us this season. where would we have been without his goals? Also, his work rate and link up play has been superb at times. his performance against Wolves a couple of weeks ago was brilliant.

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Anyone else expecting a quiet transfer window?

 

In rough terms, I’d expect the loaned players to not return and little other activity.

 

I think a quality CB is a top priority, not so sure on CF (need quality, rather than depth in this role, whereas at CB I think we need someone to relegate Stephens to 5th choice, not necessarily a £20m first choice)

 

Obviously, we have zero cover at RB, but other than that, I’d expect to simply replace what we lose (eg if Lemina goes, a new CM...if Bertrand goes, a new LB etc).

 

I wouldnt rule it out given how little the owners seem willing to contribute financially. However it would be shameful to not back RH and stick with a group of players who have performed poorly the last two seasons. Think we need a new outfield spine, quality CB is a must, DM as Romeu at times is poor and at least one CF, likely two. A backup RB would be useful too. Five players in would be more than enough but im more concerned about clearing out those who arent in RH's plans. Theres alot of wages to clear there.

 

A full pre season under RH will be huge. The longer he has with the team, the better i think we'll get.

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I think it would be far better to spend the budget on 2 very good players rather than 5 average ones.

 

A central defender and a striker, preferably. Then try to reduce the size of the squad to 18-20 senior players again, as Ralph says he prefers that the squad not be bloated.

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Best to expect very little from Saints unless the owner suddenly decides to invest.

 

Our January window was a disgrace (Swansea-esque in negligence) but thankfully Ralph had enough to pull us over the line.

 

Our best hope is that Ralph is aware of some cheap potential or manages to get something decent out of Boufal and or Carillo

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Anyone else expecting a quiet transfer window?

 

In rough terms, I’d expect the loaned players to not return and little other activity.

 

I think a quality CB is a top priority, not so sure on CF (need quality, rather than depth in this role, whereas at CB I think we need someone to relegate Stephens to 5th choice, not necessarily a £20m first choice)

 

Obviously, we have zero cover at RB, but other than that, I’d expect to simply replace what we lose (eg if Lemina goes, a new CM...if Bertrand goes, a new LB etc).

 

Quality over quantity this summer needs to be the mantra.

 

& somehow try to shift the deadwood quickly.

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I think 3-5 will come in and similar will go out.

 

Everyone thought we wouldn't do anything last year, but still got 5 in.

 

Quality is the key though, we need players who'll come in and upgrade what we have, not just add depth.

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I think 3-5 will come in and similar will go out.

 

Everyone thought we wouldn't do anything last year, but still got 5 in.

 

Quality is the key though, we need players who'll come in and upgrade what we have, not just add depth.

 

I think the one thing we can be certain of is that far, far more will be going out than coming in. The number of players we have under contract is ridiculous.

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The big fear is that whilst I totally trust Ralph to know what we need I have zero faith in Wilson actually delivering it.

 

All the non top 6 sides have similar targets like Adams. Its hard to actually get deals done unless you are willing to slightly overpay.

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I think 3-5 will come in and similar will go out.

 

Everyone thought we wouldn't do anything last year, but still got 5 in.

 

Quality is the key though, we need players who'll come in and upgrade what we have, not just add depth.

 

Guessing you’re not including loans in those ‘outs’.

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all the loans will be impossible to shift permanently, which will restrict us financially, again. You can bet that any that do go out the door, will do so towards the latter end of the window (why pay them during the summer if you don't have to), which again will tie our hands a little.

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all the loans will be impossible to shift permanently, which will restrict us financially, again. You can bet that any that do go out the door, will do so towards the latter end of the window (why pay them during the summer if you don't have to), which again will tie our hands a little.

 

Yep, I share this worry. We can't just get rid of much deadwood without making something of a loss on transfers and/or subsidising wages when they depart.

 

On the upside, RH has done wonders with a slimmer squad, maybe we only need a couple of additions.

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Massive summer and I think shipping players out will be just as hard, if not harder, than getting players in.

 

For me, we need the below in:

 

- Commanding leader at CB

- defensive CM in the mould of Wanyama/Kante/fernandinho etc... someone to stop the counter attacks we can’t defend.

- Goal scoring CF

- RB

- Winger (depending on Boufal)

 

Outs

- Forster or McCarthy. Preferably Forster but he’ll be harder to shift and we can’t afford to keep both

- Hoedt

- Cedric

- Austin

- Clasie

- Carillo

- Gallagher

- Reed

- Hesketh

- Elyounoussi

- Stephens

- Romeu (if we can replace him)

 

- Ings, if there is any way we can get out of that deal, which looks unlikely.

 

I suspect a large % of the ours will be loans

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Anyone else expecting a quiet transfer window?

 

In rough terms, I’d expect the loaned players to not return and little other activity.

 

I think a quality CB is a top priority, not so sure on CF (need quality, rather than depth in this role, whereas at CB I think we need someone to relegate Stephens to 5th choice, not necessarily a £20m first choice)

 

Obviously, we have zero cover at RB, but other than that, I’d expect to simply replace what we lose (eg if Lemina goes, a new CM...if Bertrand goes, a new LB etc).

 

 

I'm expecting the following;

 

RH to be grossly mistreated - he'll be given a little bit to spend (we'll bleat that the coffers are empty, probavbly feed it to Jeremy Wilson to leak) but is main remit will be sell before we can buy. Will maybe spend £40m, and be outspent by Bournemouth again.

 

We'll have a significantly better season and finish between 6th-8th.

 

They'd be discussions next March to talk about budget etc. RH will ask to spend a bit more so we can go to the next level, we will either dither or refuse.

 

He'll get p1ssed off and leave at the end of the season, not going to a top four or five club but someone like Everton, or Leicester (who would have lost Rodgers as he will jump at the first career opportunity).

 

We'll then give some moron the RH's role and allow him to spend him £120m the following summer.

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Massive summer and I think shipping players out will be just as hard, if not harder, than getting players in.

 

For me, we need the below in:

 

- Commanding leader at CB

- defensive CM in the mould of Wanyama/Kante/fernandinho etc... someone to stop the counter attacks we can’t defend.

- Goal scoring CF

- RB

- Winger (depending on Boufal)

 

Outs

- Forster or McCarthy. Preferably Forster but he’ll be harder to shift and we can’t afford to keep both

- Hoedt

- Cedric

- Austin

- Clasie

- Carillo

- Gallagher

- Reed

- Hesketh

- Elyounoussi

- Stephens

- Romeu (if we can replace him)

 

- Ings, if there is any way we can get out of that deal, which looks unlikely.

 

I suspect a large % of the ours will be loans

 

Agree with all of this! It will be hard to move a lot on though...Hope the club get the right type of players in so Ralph can work his magic. Looking forward to a full season with Ralph in charge!

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Agree with all of this! It will be hard to move a lot on though...Hope the club get the right type of players in so Ralph can work his magic. Looking forward to a full season with Ralph in charge!

 

Would keep Reed. If he doesn't make it here he'll make a decent career elsewhere - think he'd be great under RH.

 

Would keep Romeu too...

 

 

....tbh though, I only care about selling four players; Hoedt, Forster, Carillo and Stephens. Get rid of those 4, I'd be happy. Very happy.

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That's an interesting bit of sleuthing on your part. Where does this name come from, just from your internet search or anything more ?

 

Obviously there is a Ralph - RB Leipzig connection, but who knows, his departure might be due to the fact he's a German Hoedt.

 

Of German based CB's I suspect Orban will be amongst RH's wishlist, but questionable if we could prise him away.

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That's an interesting bit of sleuthing on your part. Where does this name come from, just from your internet search or anything more ?

 

Obviously there is a Ralph - RB Leipzig connection, but who knows, his departure might be due to the fact he's a German Hoedt.

 

Of German based CB's I suspect Orban will be amongst RH's wishlist, but questionable if we could prise him away.

 

Not my sleuthing, titbit sent by my son, who spends more time, looking through the rumours. Just posting it for thoughts, given that we may be in for 2/3 CB's.

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Not my sleuthing, titbit sent by my son, who spends more time, looking through the rumours. Just posting it for thoughts, given that we may be in for 2/3 CB's.

 

Has it been a rumour somewhere ? An link though as it meets a lot of the suspected criteria, young, likely to improve, Ralph link etc.

 

At the moment though we have a young CB with potential to improve (Bednarek), in my view what we desperately need is someone experienced and capable of organising the defence. Which isn't to say we shouldn't also look to bring in up and coming players, but with limited funds the organiser is probably the priority.

 

Thanks for posting the link though. Makes interesting reading.

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Don’t get why some don’t rate Ings. He is a quality player. The only problem is keeping him fit.

 

You're right, he is a quality player, excellent in my opinion, and I wouldn't say it's so much that some don't rate him but just that a price tag that goes with that quality is too high for someone who's only available for a limited amount of games. If we are committed to buying then I'm still content that we've got him in the squad and hope he finally gets a break from the injuries that have blighted his career. Big ask though....

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Has it been a rumour somewhere ? An link though as it meets a lot of the suspected criteria, young, likely to improve, Ralph link etc.

 

At the moment though we have a young CB with potential to improve (Bednarek), in my view what we desperately need is someone experienced and capable of organising the defence. Which isn't to say we shouldn't also look to bring in up and coming players, but with limited funds the organiser is probably the priority.

 

Thanks for posting the link though. Makes interesting reading.

 

He also keeps banging on about this guy

 

https://www.transfermarkt.com/richmond-boakye/profil/spieler/119213

 

Say's he would be a good fit!

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IN

 

Pontus Jannson if Leeds don't get promoted.

Che Adams

Maehle or Bartolec for right back.

Bruma or Odengaard

Giroud or targetman

 

Have you watched much of Jannson if you think he is what we need?

Lightweight picks up too many injuries goes missing a lot when it gets tough.

We need better than him.

 

 

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all the loans will be impossible to shift permanently, which will restrict us financially, again. You can bet that any that do go out the door, will do so towards the latter end of the window (why pay them during the summer if you don't have to), which again will tie our hands a little.

 

This unfortunately

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What's the standard of French Ligue 2?

 

I genuinely don't mind being linked with players like this, as I've said before I'm 100% convinced there are still players out there for £3, 4, 5m that could excel in the EPL; it's all down to our recruitment though - which has been recently very, very shoddy.

 

They'll no doubt be a clamour for £15m+ players though.

 

I could probably name 20 players which would cost less than £10m who could perform at PL level all over Europe - I'm sure some others on here can too.

 

They'll leave it all to wee Ross and his team of Apple Mac nerds monitoring the trajectory of run gaits and distance between left and right legs when stood still to make those decisions though.

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I'd sell all the following if possible, which it won't be, but still;

 

Forster

Cedric

Hoedt

Stephens

Romeu

Clasie

Reed

Hesketh

Elyounoussi

Boufal

Austin

Long

Carrillo

Gallagher

 

I’d keep Long, but all the others can go, with Long I just don’t see how many other strikers we could get happy to do a bit part role.

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What are the thoughts on Gary Cahill?

 

I know he's 33 but he's feeling unloved at Chelsea and would bring a wise head to our back line.

 

Problem would possibly be wages and would Ralph prefer to go for a younger prospect?

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Realistic outs...

 

One of Forster or McCarthy - Obvious reasons

Cedric - Be amazed if he is not sold (as opposed to loan). Decent player who has had his time at saints

Hoedt - disgraceful player

Stephens - no where near good enough

Clasie - probably loaned

Austin - surely someone will take a punt on a relatively low fee

 

 

 

Possible outs....

 

Carrillo - God knows what will happen with him

Boufal - Has the talent, and Ralph will probably have a look

Hoj - because we have been 'told' a couple of times that elite clubs are watching him (be gutted if he leaves).

Gallagher- probably loaned if no decent fee can be sought

Hesketh - as above

Mo - have no idea. Can see a possible loan if Boufal comes back into the mix

Reed - see gallagher

 

 

Incoming...(all starting quality)

 

A RB

A CB

a Wide attacker with pace

a forward with pace

and replace any 'first teamer' that leaves with actual quality

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I just hope Ralph is stronger than our previous management, if you let Ross take control and start making the transfers then you're ****ed. Basically.

 

I'm sure Ralph has some good contacts, so let him recommend the players, let his contacts scout, and let Ross just play tiddly winks or something.

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For an 18-20 man squad (which is what Ralph says he wants) I'd expect us to have something like this:

 

ST: Ings, Long, ?New Signing?

AM: Redmond, JWP, Sims, Armstrong, (possibly Boufal)

CM: Romeu, Lemina, Hojbjerg (unless he's sold), (JWP can cover here as well, but only really alongside Romeu. Reed might also work in this role if we keep him)

LB: Bertrand, Targett

RB: (Valery, u21), (Possibly Reed)

CB: Yoshida, Bednarek, Vestergaard, ?New Signing?

GK: Gunn, Forster or McCarthey

 

That is between 18 and 20 senior players already (not counting Valery as senior and depending upon Boufal and Reed). Ralph also says that he wants to look at the youth teams to fill out positions, so you can also add Slattery, Obafemi, Ramsey, Ferry, Johnson, Vokins, etc. to the mix. I'd expect we'd look to loan out or sell as many of the other senior players as possible.

 

If we add another wide attacker, we need to sell one of the other players who is older than 21. I don't think it's a good idea to sign a back-up RB as that just bloats the squad and blocks Ramsey who looks promising and might get even better after a full pre-season.

 

We definitely need a better CB and striker, especially if we look to play 4-2-2-2. If we sell Hojbjerg as seems to be suggested by Kruger then we would probably need to add another CM as well.

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Massive summer and I think shipping players out will be just as hard, if not harder, than getting players in.

 

For me, we need the below in:

 

- Commanding leader at CB

- defensive CM in the mould of Wanyama/Kante/fernandinho etc... someone to stop the counter attacks we can’t defend.

- Goal scoring CF

- RB

- Winger (depending on Boufal)

 

Outs

- Forster or McCarthy. Preferably Forster but he’ll be harder to shift and we can’t afford to keep both

- Hoedt

- Cedric

- Austin

- Clasie

- Carillo

- Gallagher

- Reed

- Hesketh

- Elyounoussi

- Stephens

- Romeu (if we can replace him)

 

- Ings, if there is any way we can get out of that deal, which looks unlikely.

 

I suspect a large % of the ours will be loans

 

 

No way that many will go.

 

Why the hell would we sell Romeu? He's been important to our improved form and we literally have one defensive mid.

Nor will Ings go as we are buying him in the summer and again nor should he, he's a good player and been decent this year, just needs to get fit.

 

I doubt Elynoussi will go either, not after 1 year, doubt the club will give up on him and by his recent interview I doubt he wants to quit either. Maybe a loan, but I doubt that.

 

Close to certain outs for me are -

 

Hoedt, hes burnt his bridges, is far too arrogant for his talent, trouble is getting anyone to buy him, we'll have to sub his wages if he ends up at most Italian/Spanish/Dutch clubs, as hes probably on £65k a week.

Clasie, already said he never wants to play here again. Doubt whether Feyenoord will buy him though, seems to have fallen out with his manager.

Austin, wants more football and I think will get offers as hes a proven goal scorer so teams will take a gamble on him. Definitely can see Championship clubs going for him, especially as I doubt we'll ask for much fee. You could see him scoring the goals that gets someone promoted.

Cedric, because hes a decent player, should be takers in Europe and by the sounds of it he basically decided he was better than us and Ralph wasn't impressed by his attitude.

 

The rest are more up in the air.

 

I think Boufal and Carrillo Ralph will look at both,

Stephens is not good enough, but I think it'll depend if he decides to go for more football as I reckon he'll be kept for depth due to him being versatile.

Forster is going to be hard to shift, he might stay as No. 2 and McCarthy might get sold.

Gallagher, Reed, Hesketh, might all get loaned again I reckon. But would need some Championship teams to stump up for them if they were sold and I can't see that, maybe Gallagher someone might pay out for.

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