Edmonton Saint Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 So how we feeling 2 weeks before the season starts? I’m a pessimist and think we are going to struggle , the lack of creativity or goals as it stands is very worrying and I’m hoping the next two weeks sees much needed reinforcements I’m going to go all Dalek and think we will finish 17th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 Champions - Man City Rest of Top 4 - Spurs, Man United, Liverpool FA Cup - Chelsea League Cup - Spurs Bottom 3 - Bournemouth, Brentford, Leeds Saints - 15th (Ralph to not last the season) I think Lampard, Marsch amongst others will be gone early, with many managers having Pochettino looming over them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 (edited) These threads are really hard before the season has started and the window has closed, so we can all have a laugh when we look back at our predictions in a few months! I fancy Man City winning the league, quite comfortably this time. Liverpool to drop to 3rd or 4th. I think losing Mane will hit them more than they realise, they'll lose a lot of their fluidity in their attack and Nunez will require them to play totally differently. Man Utd will be Man Utd, they have so much shit and haven't done anything in the market to fix that. Ten Haag isn't going to make McTominay the next Pirlo or Fred the next Scholes, so until they get better players in their team they'll never really be in contention for the top 4. The ownership probably don't appreciate that though, so they'll probably pull the trigger on Ten Haag because a few players will go crying to the board because of his harsh treatment. Bottom 3, as it stands, Fulham, Bournemouth, Everton. I think Fulham are your typical yo-yo team, too good for the champ but ultimately a little short on quality for the PL. Bournemouth are just not good enough at all, they need to do a hell of a lot of work to be competitive. Everton could be real entertainment this year, I can see Dyche rocking up there in January or something. The place is in a mess, the squad is lacking quality and they've already lost their best player. Even now they don't seem to have the money to change that, but they really need it otherwise they're screwed. Southampton....anywhere between 10th-17th. If we end up with Lavia, Mara, Bella-Kotchap, Bazunu coming in and exciting everyone then we could have a good season. Likewise if they struggle to adapt due to their age we will be in for a long hard battle. Edited 23 July, 2022 by S-Clarke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 15 minutes ago, Edmonton Saint said: So how we feeling 2 weeks before the season starts? I’m a pessimist and think we are going to struggle , the lack of creativity or goals as it stands is very worrying and I’m hoping the next two weeks sees much needed reinforcements I’m going to go all Dalek and think we will finish 17th. This is pessimistic. We have had a 'window' with investment. We have a new coaching staff. We have a new Head of Recruitment , We have owners who are deeply involved and have a new vision. What's not to like? We will see a fresh dynamism. It may take a while to settle but when it does we will be challenging for Europe. 9th or 10th this season, 6th next season 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 Champions - Man City Top 4 - Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea FA Cup - Arsenal League Cup - Liverpool Relegated - Fulham, Bournemouth, Brentford Saints - 16th, Ralph to last the season despite end-of-season collapse Signing of the season / Golden Boot - Haaland World Cup winners - Brazil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 I think we will struggle first half of the season due to all the new faces needing time to bed in. I think we will also struggle in the second half of the season due to half of those new faces not being up to it. Relegation could be on the cards. I hope I am thoroughly wrong believe me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 I can't see Ralph doing much as I'm not a huge fan of his style of play. I think we may have enough to stay up if we get the required offensive reinforcements. I'm going to go with 16th but maybe higher if some of our gambles pay off. Will probably be sacking Ralph though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 I'm still not totally convinced by Ralph's tactics and game management but with this influx of decent fresh young players I am hopeful of more success. I will predict our finish to be somewhere between 11th and 15th. We may well benefit by the enforced break due to the World Cup and I can't many of ours being involved. Premier League Liverpool Top 4 City Spurs Utd Relegated Fulham Bournemouth Leeds FA Cup Spurs League Cup City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 Champions: Man City Relegated: Everton, Leeds, Bournemouth Saints: 9th Now Southampton are adopting my old Championship Manager strategy I can see no way it can go wrong. Am seriously excited about some of the players we're bringing in. This is the window I've been most excited about for years and I think (hope) we'll look back on it like Koeman's first transfer window. That being said I can see it exploding in our faces but I'm an optimist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 (edited) City Liverpool Chelsea Spurs United Arsenal West Ham F*** knows x 7 Forest Everton Leeds Brentford Bompey Fulham Pochettino to replace Brendan Rodgers Vieira to replace Arteta Liverpool to win nothing City to win treble but fail in Europe again United no better I think we’ll be fine, a more exciting team with some good days and some really infuriating days. Think Ralph will see out the season and will be resigned. England will have a bad World Cup. Truss will be PM MLT will still be annoying everyone Turkish will bump the Rainbow Shirt thread every six weeks to try and snag a bite And despite getting all of the above right, I will still fail miserably at predicting the lottery numbers. Edited 23 July, 2022 by Chewy Spelling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 Champions - Man City Top 4 - Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea FA Cup - Liverpool League Cup - Man City Relegated - Fulham, Bournemouth, Saints Ralph gone by WC start. Lack of full back cover, creative midfielder and proven striker will see us struggle…..unless addressed in next few weeks 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Give it to Ron said: Champions - Man City Top 4 - Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea FA Cup - Liverpool League Cup - Man City Relegated - Fulham, Bournemouth, Saints Ralph gone by WC start. Lack of full back cover, creative midfielder and proven striker will see us struggle…..unless addressed in next few weeks 🙂 Ralph will be gone but not because of the positions above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CylonKing Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 I'm an optimist when it comes to Saints, so top 4 will do, top 6 will be a disappointment. 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 We won’t finish any higher than 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 19 minutes ago, danjosaint said: Ralph will be gone but not because of the positions above I hope not. The Club is committed to a long term strategy, he has survived the bad days of no investment from owners, now begins the better part and he will reap the reward he deserves 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 Top 4 probably the same as last season, maybe Spurs ahead of Chelsea unless they sign a striker. FA Cup - let's go for Man City League Cup - Man City Champions League - Man City World Cup - Man City Relegated - Fulham, Brentford, Bournemouth Saints will start slow but pick up to finish 13th, get to one cup quarter final and suffer at least 1 heavy defeat to keep everyone happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 Rough start where we’ll pick up a point or two by being solid and uninspiring. Perhaps a heavy defeat thrown in. Then we’ll find improved performances and wind up 12th with much optimism surrounding our now experienced young talent. Out of the league cup early, FA cup 1/4s where we’ll draw Liverpool or City and none of the big teams will be drawn together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 17th or worse I'm afraid. Not confident at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 Champions - Man City Top 4 - Liverpool, Chelsea, Man UTD FA Cup - Man City League Cup - Chelsea Relegated - Fulham, Wolves, Brentford Ralph loses his job by October and is replaced by the current Luton manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints1988 Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 16 minutes ago, Pilchards said: Champions - Man City Top 4 - Liverpool, Chelsea, Man UTD FA Cup - Man City League Cup - Chelsea Relegated - Fulham, Wolves, Brentford Ralph loses his job by October and is replaced by the current Luton manager. Nathan Jones? - that’s a bit left field….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 6 minutes ago, saints1988 said: Nathan Jones? - that’s a bit left field….. It should release the pressure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 25 minutes ago, saints1988 said: Nathan Jones? - that’s a bit left field….. He’s been gone too long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 My prediction for 2022/23 is that I will definitely have increasingly brutal hangovers due to the ageing process. Man City to win the title Manure to hopefully finish 8th or below and the main news sites finally realise they’re aren’t the biggest club anymore and don’t deserve stories about their ball boys above other clubs activity. Looking at you BBC, you’re the nation’s service, not Man Utd website. Tottenham to hopefully be shite. Everton finally relegated. It’s basically Revel Roulette for us with Ralph. Could get an occasional toffee but mostly a duff packet with orange dominating. We will probably get a weird parma violet flavour in there as well during the season. New coaches will hopefully be listened to by the rabbit house. We are still seriously lacking goals so give me 17th today and I would take it. I wasn’t far off last season being happy with the same thing and ending up with 16th. That said, a couple of strong signings and I’d revise to 12th to 15th. The new players are too inexperienced and surrounded by average squad for anything more. It’s a rebuilding year as long as the foundations don’t collapse around us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 My only prediction will be IF we sack Ralph mid season, we will end up relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 (edited) From the limited amount I’ve seen so far of our new signings, I’m erring on the side of negativity. I think we are in real danger of getting relegated. Bazunu aside, I haven’t seen anything at all that makes me think we’ve signed anyone a good bit better than we’ve already got. We’ve got more players, which may well help, but I don’t see our first team level as having gone up very much since last term. Our form at the end of last term was a disaster and I’d hoped to see us become a bit more exciting going forwards, but three pre season games haven’t enlightened me there so far. I also think the 3 at the back doesn’t look like a particularly wonderful formation for us. A proper striker will change us in a big way, so we’ll see what happens there, IMO right now it’s utterly crucial we get someone in who can get very close to double figures for the season. Edited 23 July, 2022 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 Champions Man City top 4 Liverpool,chelsea,manure 5th. Spuds 6th. Arsenal fa cup. Chelsea league cup. Man City relegation. Cherries, Fulham , Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 July, 2022 Share Posted 23 July, 2022 Champions - City CL - Liverpool, Chelsea, United Saints - 14th Relegated - Forest, Bournemouth, Brentford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 If the window closed today we’d be gone. But it isn’t closing today so I haven’t a clue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 12 hours ago, Chris cooper said: Champions Man City top 4 Liverpool,chelsea,manure 5th. Spuds 6th. Arsenal fa cup. Chelsea league cup. Man City relegation. Cherries, Fulham , Everton So we don’t even feature? That’s even more pessimistic than my prediction, at least I don’t have us relegated before the season starts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Left Back Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 This is often the only time of year to dream big, to be optimistic, to be ruled by hope not fear, to see that glass as not just half full but overflowing. We're a mystery side. Our owners have a cunning plan and seem to know what they are doing. It's a season with a massive break in the middle. Ralph says we'll sign another striker. So I'm going to go for it and say 7th place, and a cup final. ...waits for mass condemnation by fellow forum members. I'm happy to be called deluded or whatever else you want to chuck at me. That's my prediction and I'm sticking with it. As for everything else, I'm not interested enough to make a prediction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, The Kraken said: From the limited amount I’ve seen so far of our new signings, I’m erring on the side of negativity. I think we are in real danger of getting relegated. Bazunu aside, I haven’t seen anything at all that makes me think we’ve signed anyone a good bit better than we’ve already got. We’ve got more players, which may well help, but I don’t see our first team level as having gone up very much since last term. Our form at the end of last term was a disaster and I’d hoped to see us become a bit more exciting going forwards, but three pre season games haven’t enlightened me there so far. I also think the 3 at the back doesn’t look like a particularly wonderful formation for us. A proper striker will change us in a big way, so we’ll see what happens there, IMO right now it’s utterly crucial we get someone in who can get very close to double figures for the season. Agree with this. We are on track to be in the worst six teams in the league yet again, and right now feels to me we are closer to the worst three that we were even last season. That Christmas purple patch seems so far away now. Can these kids handle it? A bunch of young kids on the back of four morale-sapping defeats early in the season and we could be a club in tailspin. It's a lovely experiment to go for all this potential and youth but we fans could get to the world cup break collectively reflecting on how anyone thought that it could possibly work in the 2022 Premier League. A big gamble. Edited 24 July, 2022 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 I don’t see too many people being bold and brave as per this seasons strap line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 Unless the new coaches are some kind of miracle workers and can over ride some of Ralph's stubborn decisions I fear we are in for a struggle to rise above the bottom six. Whether that translates into relegation I'm not sure but maybe we are running out of lives. It's getting harder to compete with those who spend a lot more than we do so maybe our expectations should be low. We've shelled out a bit this summer but it will be hard to rely on so many untried youngsters especially if we make our usual very slow start to the season. Still time to bolster the squad with some proven class but not sure the owners are going to go down that route so it's all a gamble on unproven youngsters - be lovely if it works, if it doesn't prepare for a car crash. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmidlandsaint Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 1st - Man City 2nd - Liverpool 3rd - Spurs 4th - Arsenal 18th - Brentford 19th - Fulham 20th - Bournemouth Saints to finish 11th FA Cup - Chelsea League Cup - Man City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 For the first time in many years I am predicting relegation. Our form over the last few months of last season was atrocious and I don’t think RH is good enough even with better players at his disposal. I know a new season should bring optimism but I am struggling this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 14 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: For the first time in many years I am predicting relegation. Our form over the last few months of last season was atrocious and I don’t think RH is good enough even with better players at his disposal. I know a new season should bring optimism but I am struggling this year. Apologies, maybe I’ve missed it but can you remind us of a season when you were optimistic? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 (edited) All the promoted sides will be shit and yes including Forest with their wonder manager. Lingard a very odd signing Hard to say with Saints and consistency- the same side that looked world beaters against Spurs can seem bereft of any cutting edge against Watford at home. Going to be weird season with 2 month break but hinges on start. Poor start and Ralph will have to go. String start and won’t be too long to regroup and take stock although could say that with weak start so like a mini season. 14th Edited 24 July, 2022 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piran Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 18 hours ago, beatlesaint said: We won’t finish any higher than 15th. Source? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 Just now, whelk said: All the promoted sides will be shit and yes including Forest with their wonder manager. Lingard a very odd signing Hard to say with Saints and consistency- the same side that looked world beaters against Spurs can seem bereft of any cutting edge against Watford at home. Going to be weird season with 2 month break but hinge on start. Poor start and Ralph will have to go. Sting start and won’t be too long to regroup and take stock. 14th That’s where I’m at. In reality not much as changed. We’ve lost Broja but the first XI is pretty much the same that started last season, in addition we’ve lost a non scoring late sub plus a bang average keeper. This season we’ve got much more depth albeit a lot of them are untested kids. Early signs are that Bazunu looks a good capture so think he’ll start the season and I’d still expect Romeu and Ward Prowse to start the season as our central pairing with Lavia being eased through. the striker signing is going to be key, get someone in who can score 10 a season or more and things look promising. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 I'm one competent striker away from being VERY excited about this season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 Think we looked like we miht have improved at the back. In an attacking sense we are very weak and lack goals. It seems like we still have business to do in this area. The mid-season break may help as the one recent time we had one(Covid), ralph managed to get the team to finish the season on a high rather than his more common lose every game approach. I'll go optmistic and say 11th because the thought of another drab drip over the stay up line is too depressing for words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 Bad start which sees us in the bottom three, Ralph to be gone during September international break. Recover under new manager to finish 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 With the influx of new coaching staff, the appointment of Bazunu to improve the keeper role and some much needed younger legs in defence and midfield, I was starting to get optimistic about the new season. Unfortunately this optimism has been muted at this point by a lack of improvement in tactical nouse and performance in front of goal - yes, it's early days and we've got at least Mara to look forward to joining and others hitting form, but at this point there's little to demonstrate lessons learnt and a corner being turned. Difficult to predict therefore how the season will end, but at the moment I see it going like this - early defeats will mean a significant upswell of anti-Ralph protests leading to a difficult decision by the Board. Would they act early and try to convince Poch to come back and finish the project he started? If we don't fix the lack of goal threat we saw at the end of last season, it will mean one thing - relegation - and I can't see the Board risking that eventuality with the level of investment made this summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 3 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: For the first time in many years I am predicting relegation. Our form over the last few months of last season was atrocious and I don’t think RH is good enough even with better players at his disposal. I know a new season should bring optimism but I am struggling this year. We have better players so the manager who has kept us up with worse players will get us relegated? What? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 2 hours ago, Piran said: Source? Out of the last 5 seasons we have finished above 15th once, the past two seasons both 15th, that’s my source 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 5 hours ago, Turkish said: Apologies, maybe I’ve missed it but can you remind us of a season when you were optimistic? Oh I’m never optimistic (less disappointment) but I haven’t predicted relegation for a long time. I honestly think Ralph has been rumbled (that’s an answer to Pamplemousse). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 8 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: Oh I’m never optimistic (less disappointment) but I haven’t predicted relegation for a long time. I honestly think Ralph has been rumbled (that’s an answer to Pamplemousse). As do I, started with Norwich at home. We won, but you could see how Dean Smith had worked out how to nullify us. Yes we got two goals, before anyone brings that up, but we were very blunt from that day on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 Brentford beaten 4-0 by Wolfsburg but Everton won 4-2 at Blackpool if that helps as a guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 7 hours ago, Toussaint said: If the window closed today we’d be gone. But it isn’t closing today so I haven’t a clue. Why? Many of the clubs around us have had much more disappointing or indifferent summers so far. We look stronger in several positions, we just need a replacement for Broja. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 24 July, 2022 Share Posted 24 July, 2022 Champions - City Runners up - Arsenal 3rd - Liverpool 4th - United 5th - Chelsea 6th - Newcastle 7th - Spurs 8th - Wolves 9th - West Ham 10th - Villa 11th - Palace 12th - Leicester 13th - Brighton 14th - Fulham 15th - Everton 16th - Forest 17th - SAINTS 18th - Leeds 19th - Bournemouth 20th - Brentford ______________ FA cup winners - West Ham Carabao Cup winners - Liverpool Champions League winners - City Golden Boot winner - Che Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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