Saint_lambden Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 On Marsch, I think whoever followed Bielsa at Leeds was on a hiding to nothing because he was so idolised. He did keep them up though despite them falling like a stone and getting carved apart every week when he arrived. Performance wise whenever I've seen them this season I've been fairly impressed and they've dominated plenty of games, but just haven't been clinical (case in point the match v Man Utd yesterday). They lost Raphinha in the summer who pretty much kept them up single-handedly last season so they were never going to pull up any trees this time around. Tactically it makes sense - he gets his teams playing aggressive and in a four at the back which is everything we've been crying out for - and he's (apparently) a good man manager which is the opposite of everything we've been told about Jones and particularly Hassenhuttl. The accent would grind I'm sure but he's clearly made an effort to cut out the Americanisms since arriving in England so the Ted Lasso comparisons are just lazy. We could do a lot worse, basically. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth_kenobi Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 2 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Thing is I can see them losing tonight which wouldn’t be great for us. But then Klopp could be available 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Turkish said: an appointment for the ladies Why is he eating his T Shirt? Surely it can't be that long till snack time? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 34 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said: Let Selles have his cup final on Saturday. Saints beat Chelsea. Potter gets sacked. Hey Presto, Saints have their new manager. 😉 If that happens and you go into self-congratulatory overdrive again, remember that I came up with this very scenario before you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 10 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said: On Marsch, I think whoever followed Bielsa at Leeds was on a hiding to nothing because he was so idolised. He did keep them up though despite them falling like a stone and getting carved apart every week when he arrived. Performance wise whenever I've seen them this season I've been fairly impressed and they've dominated plenty of games, but just haven't been clinical (case in point the match v Man Utd yesterday). They lost Raphinha in the summer who pretty much kept them up single-handedly last season so they were never going to pull up any trees this time around. Tactically it makes sense - he gets his teams playing aggressive and in a four at the back which is everything we've been crying out for - and he's (apparently) a good man manager which is the opposite of everything we've been told about Jones and particularly Hassenhuttl. The accent would grind I'm sure but he's clearly made an effort to cut out the Americanisms since arriving in England so the Ted Lasso comparisons are just lazy. We could do a lot worse, basically. The beauty of following Jones is that whoever it is has no expectations to follow, just don't lose every game you play. It would be one hell of an effort for us to find someone WORSE than Jones (I'm sure we'll give it a good shot though....) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 I reckon they’ve crunched the numbers and have come up with Sarina Wiegman as the best candidate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Am I the only one thinking that Marcsh appointment doesn’t seem set in stone? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintscummer Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Wasn’t there a geordie chap who managed a team ( Canada ) at the World Cup who done well ? Think he managed the women’s team successfully too before the men’s. basically getting a crap team to play above itself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunit Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Just now, stevy777_x said: Am I the only one thinking that Marcsh appointment doesn’t seem set in stone? Sounds like an early rumour. He's one of the names we're looking at but not 'the one' yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 16 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said: On Marsch, I think whoever followed Bielsa at Leeds was on a hiding to nothing because he was so idolised. He did keep them up though despite them falling like a stone and getting carved apart every week when he arrived. Performance wise whenever I've seen them this season I've been fairly impressed and they've dominated plenty of games, but just haven't been clinical (case in point the match v Man Utd yesterday). They lost Raphinha in the summer who pretty much kept them up single-handedly last season so they were never going to pull up any trees this time around. Tactically it makes sense - he gets his teams playing aggressive and in a four at the back which is everything we've been crying out for - and he's (apparently) a good man manager which is the opposite of everything we've been told about Jones and particularly Hassenhuttl. The accent would grind I'm sure but he's clearly made an effort to cut out the Americanisms since arriving in England so the Ted Lasso comparisons are just lazy. We could do a lot worse, basically. Yeah but we don’t want Ted fucking Lasso in charge of our Soccerball team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 So,looks likely that the Qatari royal family want to buy Man Utd. Bid in today. yep, I’d sell my soul for that investment in Saints. couldn’t give a toss about the political ramifications. 🤷🏻♂️ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 12 minutes ago, trousers said: If that happens and you go into self-congratulatory overdrive again, remember that I came up with this very scenario before you... and me before you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 14 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said: I reckon they’ve crunched the numbers and have come up with Sarina Wiegman as the best candidate. She would rightly turn us down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 10 minutes ago, saint lard said: So,looks likely that the Qatari royal family want to buy Man Utd. Bid in today. yep, I’d sell my soul for that investment in Saints. couldn’t give a toss about the political ramifications. 🤷🏻♂️ All feels a bit muddy to me. That will be Newcastle, PSG, Man City, Man Utd owned and funded by middle eastern states. I wouldn't say no to a mega backer if they came knocking, but by the same token I wouldn't go searching or selling my soul for one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: All feels a bit muddy to me. That will be Newcastle, PSG, Man City, Man Utd owned and funded by middle eastern states. I wouldn't say no to a mega backer if they came knocking, but by the same token I wouldn't go searching or selling my soul for one! #sportswashing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Marsch in as #2 to Selles 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Just now, Master Bates said: Marsch in as #2 to Selles 🤷♂️ There's football clubs, and then there's M&S football clubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Bruce wouldn't actually be the worst shout, as long as it's just till the end of the season. He tends to get teams playing well at first before stagnating. Could do a Mark Hughes for us. Won't happen though Have a look at what he did at WBA Bruce is a dinosaur and busted flush Edited 13 February, 2023 by Give it to Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/13/southampton-hold-talks-with-jesse-marsch-after-dismissal-of-jones 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 47 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Bruce wouldn't actually be the worst shout, as long as it's just till the end of the season. He tends to get teams playing well at first before stagnating. Could do a Mark Hughes for us. Won't happen though There's a very strong, and recent, body of evidence which demonstrates that he very much doesn't get the best out of a squad of players. No thanks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 TalkSport reported just now that we've spoken to Jesse Marsch but it didn't happen because we shouldn't believe everything that's on the internet or something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyprussaints Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Ivan Juric. The owners would certainly know him well given he’s Croatian and doing well at Torino. If I was there, I would give Poch what he wants even if it’s takes a £10m bonus to keep us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, obelisk said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/13/southampton-hold-talks-with-jesse-marsch-after-dismissal-of-jones Can't possibly be true because Fareham Saints said something about the bloke who said this on the internet or something had not many followers or something and that people that believed it were gullible or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Selles get it at least until the end of the season. Whatever we think of him SR like him and they brought him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 I love how talksport just copy the athletic. Means I don’t have to pay to read that shit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 12 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Have a look at what he did at WBA Bruce is a dinosaur and busted flush That's one club. Meanwhile there's people on here who want to give Lampard and Gerrard a go after their failures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Chatting to fans of other clubs - relegation rivals if you like. they can’t believe that we have escaped Jones and that we are now considering Marsch. They’re all happy for us to announce him though… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, Highfield Saint said: Chatting to fans of other clubs - relegation rivals if you like. they can’t believe that we have escaped Jones and that we are now considering Marsch. They’re all happy for us to announce him though… we have established, that fans usually know f-all about the game...... Weirdly, most of us called it right with Jones early on..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 55 minutes ago, Saintscummer said: Wasn’t there a geordie chap who managed a team ( Canada ) at the World Cup who done well ? Think he managed the women’s team successfully too before the men’s. basically getting a crap team to play above itself Herdman. No thanks. He's done fine with Canada but often makes really bizarre decisions and rather stupidly spouts his mouth off. We've had enough of that this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: we have established, that fans usually know f-all about the game...... Weirdly, most of us called it right with Jones early on..... The Jones appointment was just odd on so many levels. Hiring Marsch is totally different in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 with us now offering marsch a contract, it is almost time for the greatest meltdown we’ve seen in some time on this forum. (no I am not hoping for this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 hour ago, Turkish said: an appointment for the ladies or the boys, let's not be homophobic about this. There's enough Bruce love to go round.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Just now, DT said: #unreliableinternetposters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Just now, DT said: I believe in you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Saintscummer said: Wasn’t there a geordie chap who managed a team ( Canada ) at the World Cup who done well ? Think he managed the women’s team successfully too before the men’s. basically getting a crap team to play above itself John Herdman. He's a great communicator and has indeed done an excellent job with both the women's and men's national teams. I'm amazed he wasn't snapped up after the World Cup (Canada topped the CONCACAF group containing the U.S. and Mexico), but his contract has now been extended through the 2026 World Cup here in North America. He sees it as "unfinished business". I wouldn't say he's been working with a "crap team" when it contains players like Alphonso Davies (Bayern), Jonathan David (Lille), Tajon Buchanan (Brugge) and Stephen Eustáquio (Porto), although he's got the best out of the "plumbers" who aren't at that level. On a side note, the one to watch is Ismaël Koné, who's just 20; he's a central/defensive midfielder who recently signed for Watford, but I don't think he'll be there long. I've always thought that Herdman would do well in England, and could cut the mustard at PL level. (EDIT: Just saw Ottawa's post - funny how we each see stuff differently, but Herdman cut certainly drop the occasional verbal bollock. 🤣) Edited 13 February, 2023 by CanadaSaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 6 minutes ago, DT said: This bloke knows his football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Saintscummer said: Wasn’t there a geordie chap who managed a team ( Canada ) at the World Cup who done well ? Think he managed the women’s team successfully too before the men’s. basically getting a crap team to play above itself You're thinking about John Herdman, currently Head Coach of the Canadian men's team - that disappointed in the last World Cup. But he's good. Super positive, enthusiastic - got the women's team and the men's team playing well. No PL experience and possibly too nice? Will have learnt about handling the media after the Croatia gaff at the World Cup. We could do worse...and of course he would have been 1000% better than Nathan Jones (but then so would a pot plant have been). I think, swallow your pride and bring Ralph back, or Poch. But super long-shot. Please no to any of Gerard, Rooney or Lampard...and I simply cannot believe anyone would think Allardyce-crook is the solution to anything other than dodgy deals and park 10-men on the goal-line. I don't think Marsch is the solution either...a bit reactive...and there must be a reason why Leeds didn't want him despite the spirit his teams clearly show (something to do with not winning football games I think). Edited 13 February, 2023 by Vancouver Saint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 6 minutes ago, CanadaSaint said: John Herdman. He's a great communicator and has indeed done an excellent job with both the women's and men's national teams. I'm amazed he wasn't snapped up after the World Cup (Canada topped the CONCACAF group containing the U.S. and Mexico), but his contract has now been extended through the 2026 World Cup here in North America. He sees it as "unfinished business". I wouldn't say he's been working with a "crap team" when it contains players like Alphonso Davies (Bayern), Jonathan David (Lille), Tajon Buchanan (Brugge) and Stephen Eustáquio (Porto), although he's got the best out of the "plumbers" who aren't at that level. On a side note, the one to watch is Ismaël Koné, who's just 20; he's a central/defensive midfielder who recently signed for Watford, but I don't think he'll be there long. I've always thought that Herdman would do well in England, and could cut the mustard at PL level. (EDIT: Just saw Ottawa's post - funny how we each see stuff differently, but Herdman cut certainly drop the occasional verbal bollock. 🤣) Your summary is fair though. I felt he did well right up to the World Cup, but when the pressure was on he made a few bizarre changes that were not necessary and backfired quite badly. Also the whole "we'll fuck Croatia" was really poor professionalism from him. I think he's probably learned from the WC experience but I fell he isn't what we need right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 29 minutes ago, Highfield Saint said: Chatting to fans of other clubs - relegation rivals if you like. they can’t believe that we have escaped Jones and that we are now considering Marsch. They’re all happy for us to announce him though… Spot on. Would be a crazy appointment; he had Leeds on a terrible run -> the sack, so what makes people think he'd do any different with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Puddings and Monkeys said: Spot on. Would be a crazy appointment; he had Leeds on a terrible run -> the sack, so what makes people think he'd do any different with us? Absolutely batshit crazy. Loons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 22 minutes ago, DT said: #unreliableinternetposters You ok Alpine ? I mean DT 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 hour ago, saint lard said: So,looks likely that the Qatari royal family want to buy Man Utd. Bid in today. yep, I’d sell my soul for that investment in Saints. couldn’t give a toss about the political ramifications. 🤷🏻♂️ Ratcliffe may as well buy Saints then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 hour ago, Sunglasses Ron said: I reckon they’ve crunched the numbers and have come up with Sarina Wiegman as the best candidate. The only manager that guarantees two up top 👀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 What's our old friend Russell Slade up to these days? Or that Yakin fellow. Or dare I say...Stuart Baxter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 2 hours ago, Turkish said: an appointment for the ladies The dinner ladies... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Jones has apparently spoken to Leeds lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Jones has apparently spoken to Leeds lol 👀🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Jones has apparently spoken to Leeds lol You would imagine it was a very short conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Jones has apparently spoken to Leeds lol Doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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