Convict Colony Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 (edited) Just seen the news and whilst I am an 8th dan streaming ninja and do not pay myself as i am oversea's, it is surely a massive piss-take of the highest level. Edited 9 October, 2020 by Convict Colony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 It’s not a broadcaster decision, it’s been made by the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 9 October, 2020 Author Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Wow..... sky and bt being hung out to dry then. Premier league trying to reclaim some of that chinese tv/attendance money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Surely if I’m paying for IPTV this won’t change anything for me right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 What's the problem? I think all 380 matches should be available on TV. I'd expect to pay more the more matches I can watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divergent Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 However you look at it - it still feels like a rip off! I already had Sky Sports and added BT Sports thinking my refunded season ticket money would cover the additional cost each month and stupidly thinking also that the various broadcasters would continue to show ALL the games live and free if you had the packages. Older but no wiser! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Controversial opinion...it's perfectly reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Saints had the lowest amount of TV games last season, so it will affect our fans more than most, assuming that stays the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Obviously we don’t have details but I would imagine part of what you pay will go to broadcasters like Sky & BT. This will disproportionately affect fans of teams like saints who aren’t on tv as much though... I won’t be paying regardless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September Saint Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 £4.95 yes. £14.95 NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September Saint Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 £4.95 yes. £14.95 NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 They won't be getting any more out of me. Streams from now on 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 1 minute ago, September Saint said: £4.95 yes. £14.95 NO This is my price too. I am a tight arse. I don't mind paying a fiver to watch a game legally and reliably but any more and I'll stream. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 FIFTEEN QUID? To watch a game on TV? No thanks, I'll just watch a repeat of Taskmaster on Dave instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray951 Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Dusic said: Saints had the lowest amount of TV games last season, so it will affect our fans more than most, assuming that stays the same. In 2018/2019 Saints on TV 8 times (which is actually less than the anumber of games stipulated in the TV contract), Liverpool 29 times. If these charges were for a whole season we would have to pay £448 on top of your BT/SkyAmazon subscriptions, Liverpool only £134 extra. Edited 9 October, 2020 by ray951 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 They're setting the ground work for normalising charging you for a Sky/BT subscription and moving all the meaningful games to PPV once the pandemic has passed. This is the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Solent are about to get the highest listening numbers they've had for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Force Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 (edited) I balked at paying an addition $4.99 a month to get peacock so i could watch the saints game not on cable in the us. What has got worse this year is that games that were previously on TV, are no longer being shown when there is no other match also on. This has happened for a couple of our games so far this season. My problem is not the additional 5 bucks, but more the accumulation of subscriptions services if you want to see everything. $17 for Netflix, $10 for disney+, $10 for F1, $30 for Sling etc it all the competing services have diluted the offerings at each individual to make it no longer good value. To get a range of UK shows i am interested in I need, all the main platforms like Amazon , Hulu, Netflix, plus add ons, so it no longer is as good as what it used to be but I pay more. So I refuse to add another one. Edited 9 October, 2020 by Mystic Force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Steve Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Illegal streams will be on the increase again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Not sure why people pay anyway, even a normal monthly Sky or BT subscription is a rip off. There's always a stream available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Don't all rush at once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 20 minutes ago, Plastic said: Don't all rush at once I think they've looked at people having a few extra quid from not going to games and based the pricing on undercutting that. They've forgotten that everyone's been getting those games for nothing extra for months, and that watching games on TV even when the atmosphere on there isn't like a training game is a crap experience compared to being at the match. Never mind that most people are looking at where they can reduce spending at the moment, on top of that, this just encourages people to group together to watch and split the cost. That's a fantastic idea during a global pandemic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Meh, it's a lot less than you pay for tickets to go and see the game in the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 (edited) Just the Edited 10 October, 2020 by SaintsLoyal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Meh, it's a lot less than you pay for tickets to go and see the game in the ground. Yes £14.95 is approx 50% of the refund I get from my season ticket and 50% of what I would have paid to go to away games, with some of these away games being on TV anyway, so don’t have a problem with this, especially if you get a few friends around to watch games to chip (obviously no more than 6) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Only Leicester voted against this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: Meh, it's a lot less than you pay for tickets to go and see the game in the ground. And a much poorer experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteleySaint30 Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 22 minutes ago, Archers Road Stand said: Only Leicester voted against this. Fair play to them. Saints however; I have shelled out c£600 on season tickets(most premier league clubs haven't asked their fans to buy a product they can't use) and I now need to shell out possibly as much as £350 to watch our games on TV(all whilst I get my £600 drip fed back between now and May). Unfortunately I'm not on Premier league wages so that's difficult for me. I'm out - premier league and Saints greed makes me sick. ##nkers....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Anyone know whether you can access these games if you don't already subscribe to Sky/BT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon3737 Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Sky couldn’t get PPV to work when they tried before, so hopefully people won’t pay up... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PremPlus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 3 hours ago, Mystic Force said: I balked at paying an addition $4.99 a month to get peacock so i could watch the saints game not on cable in the us. What has got worse this year is that games that were previously on TV, are no longer being shown when there is no other match also on. This has happened for a couple of our games so far this season. My problem is not the additional 5 bucks, but more the accumulation of subscriptions services if you want to see everything. $17 for Netflix, $10 for disney+, $10 for F1, $30 for Sling etc it all the competing services have diluted the offerings at each individual to make it no longer good value. To get a range of UK shows i am interested in I need, all the main platforms like Amazon , Hulu, Netflix, plus add ons, so it no longer is as good as what it used to be but I pay more. So I refuse to add another one. Yes it's crap that the increase of smaller streaming app services have nabbed the rights to shows that were once available on the mainstream Hulu and Netflix platforms. (ie Disney taking anything Marvel/Star Wars - HBOMax getting South Park/Studio Ghibli...etc) You need to invest in all these apps to get what you were used to getting. (For your UK shows, have you looked into getting BBC iplayer through a VPN?) TBF, Peacock, which isn't perfect, is at least cheaper than the previous NBC Gold offering. For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marching Halos Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 3 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Meh, it's a lot less than you pay for tickets to go and see the game in the ground. I got £21 refunded for the Tottenham game (adult ticket)...so I save £6 a game "a lot less" my ass. You wouldn't pay cinema prices to watch at home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 That price is crazy expensive. Maybe 8 quid or something along those lines? Those are the old Prem Plus prices, and that never worked because of the extortionate prices. For fans who are paying around £50 p/m for BT Sport and Sky Sports shouldn't be expected to pay another £15 to watch additional matches, IMO. Even more so when fans have already paid for season tickets and won't receive those refunds until after the event. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve green Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 5 hours ago, St Steve said: Illegal streams will be on the increase again. It's like the mp3 downloading muck up in the late 90s early 00s where by not providing reasonable avalibility at a reasonable cost the musi industry almost wrecked itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 (edited) 15 quid is just hilariously expensive. It's like they want it to fail. Paying 40 quid for Sky, then 10 quid for BT Sport, then paying extra for each sodding game. Just do one. Dodgy streams here I come. Edited 9 October, 2020 by Colinjb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 Halve those prices and we’ll talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 1 minute ago, Lighthouse said: Halve those prices and we’ll talk. Say a third...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 9 October, 2020 Share Posted 9 October, 2020 16 minutes ago, Colinjb said: 15 quid is just hilariously expensive. It's like they want it to fail. Paying 40 quid for Sky, then 10 quid for BT Sport, then paying extra for each sodding game. Just do one. Dodgy streams here I come. 10 quid for BT Sport? Try £27.99 p/m! then another £25 ish for Sky Sports. No way do they need more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 10 October, 2020 Share Posted 10 October, 2020 £15 is a bit on the high end. But I would otherwise have bought 2 tickets for Stamford Bridge, so I'll pay. Worse experience, but saving money. A lot of that seems true of lockdown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 10 October, 2020 Share Posted 10 October, 2020 9 hours ago, steve green said: It's like the mp3 downloading muck up in the late 90s early 00s where by not providing reasonable avalibility at a reasonable cost the musi industry almost wrecked itself. Seen a lot of people make this comparison since the PPV news was announced, and they’ve all said about how Apple and Spotify made the music so cheap it killed the need for illegal downloads. So like Simon jordan said If the Premier League did the same, and started a £10 a month Netflix style service around the world it would pretty much end the IPTV market and they’d probably make more money than they do currently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 10 October, 2020 Share Posted 10 October, 2020 Leicester were the only club to vote against this . Its a rip off and it could encourage people to break the law . I wouldn’t pay £14.95 to watch Saints in tv on my own. I would however chip in and watch it with mates in one house . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 October, 2020 Share Posted 10 October, 2020 44 minutes ago, bpsaint said: Seen a lot of people make this comparison since the PPV news was announced, and they’ve all said about how Apple and Spotify made the music so cheap it killed the need for illegal downloads. So like Simon jordan said If the Premier League did the same, and started a £10 a month Netflix style service around the world it would pretty much end the IPTV market and they’d probably make more money than they do currently. I think the only difference is that it was incredibly easy to burn hundreds of albums off of Napster/Pirate Bay and the other ones back in the day. In contrast, I've pretty much given up on streaming matches now because I've got a fed up of what seems to be a three or four month cycle of "ooh, this is working great" to "whats happened now" to then getting messages etc about "we're trying to fix it" and over complicated fixes from stroppy Latvian IT types. Occasionally I use the links on the match threads here but get sick of the pop ups and the requests to sign up etc etc. Obviously when matches were everywhere during lockdown it wasn't too much of a problem anyway. So I'm a sample of one but I'd say the football bods are doing a better job of fighting large scale piracy than the music industry did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 10 October, 2020 Author Share Posted 10 October, 2020 Just to help - i use sportsmania on my tv but on my laptop i always use this website to get streams https://soccerstreams-100.com/ You just have to remember that once you have clicked the game you want to scroll down the page under the fake video window and you get all the different streams that they have for that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 10 October, 2020 Share Posted 10 October, 2020 I never have a problem finding a decent stream. The only way to stop this rip off is to not pay it. The view that "it's half the price of a match ticket" is exactly what they want you to think. Watch a stream, or go and actually attend a Non-League game where your £15 means so much more to those clubs, many of who are properly struggling at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 10 October, 2020 Share Posted 10 October, 2020 Really hacks me off being a BT subscriber. They'll include top 6 games as per their schedule in the fee and then charge extra for lower PL clubs' games. Poor. And £15 is an absolute joke. It used to be a tenner for a Sky/Now day pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 10 October, 2020 Share Posted 10 October, 2020 18 hours ago, qwertyell said: They're setting the ground work for normalising charging you for a Sky/BT subscription and moving all the meaningful games to PPV once the pandemic has passed. This is the future. Correct. I posted on a thread during lockdown when people were praising the Premier league for having free to air games, that we should be carful what we wish for. The 3pm live games, every game live, and now this, it’s all heading in one direction and even broadcasters need to beware of the long term. The end game is The premier league streaming every game themselves ,but the real sting in the tail will be the distribution of the money for these games. Manchester Utd will keep their subscription money and Saints will keep theirs, within 5 years the differences in revenue between them will be as big as match day revenue is now. With one crucial difference, they’ll be no TV money to redress the balance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 10 October, 2020 Share Posted 10 October, 2020 A lot of clubs are getting flack over this but I guess there’s a chance they didn’t realise how much the Premier League were going to charge. Perhaps they just said they were going to make all the games PPV for a small charge and clubs expected it to be £7 or £8 rather than £15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 10 October, 2020 Share Posted 10 October, 2020 Good article in Athletic and said that codes for ST holders discussed but too complicated as all clubs doing different things. My IPTV is spot on and never miss a game. They are very underground now though and don’t advertise which is probably why so stable. £15 is a rip off but presumably all Southampton pubs will pay it (unless licensing doesn’t allow) as you don’t need to to have BT or Sky subscriptions to partake. Get out there lads and spread the virus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 10 October, 2020 Share Posted 10 October, 2020 20 minutes ago, whelk said: My IPTV is spot on and never miss a game. They are very underground now though and don’t advertise which is probably why so stable. They don't advertise because the service they are providing is illegal It would be like your local drug dealer paying for sponsored posts on Instagram - an easy pointer for law enforcement. Everything is done by word of mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 10 October, 2020 Share Posted 10 October, 2020 But they used to advertise but yes, daft as Sky have hit squads to close down and didn’t have to look too hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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