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1 hour ago, Galway saint said:

My point was more that the signings haven’t improved the squad not that those players had excellent seasons before they departed. For example surely we would be better off with Forster in goal than bazanu ? The later has some of the worst statistics in premier league history and is one of the main reasons we are going down. He doesn’t make any significant saves whereas Forster did, along with the odd gaff. Edozie has literally no end product ( no goals and no assists) but Redmond did have some end product along with some really dire games. 
I’m not saying they were great players but they are better than what we have now. 
The signings have been total shite with the odd exception.

 

There has to be a distinct way of playing, so the players know what they are doing. I'm guessing Ralph had his playbook, and they were following that, but Ralph constantly tinkered which probably confused the players which affected performance, and ultimately their confidence. Nathan obviously made things worse. Now, when u are buying players, you have to look at what systems they are coming from and see if they fit in. Ultimately, I don't think the players coming in are bad, but if you are getting ex Man City players to play like Luton, then it's not going to work. The way Pep plays is to have visible players available close to the ball. If you are playing a system that stretches play, suited for tall Paul, then players are further away from each other, so the player needs a few extra nanoseconds to see who is available, but that is a skill in itself. The only way Southampton are going to thrive is by picking a system, pick the players then play that every week and add to it over time. Almost like rebooting a computer. It's the same problem Chelsea are having.

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27 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

For no reason whatsoever, 3-0 Saints. ( JWP free kick, Perraud screamer, and the VAR official ).

Like your optimism.

Got to move the ball much faster to achieve that. Wednesday was painfully slow, Grimsby were there for the taking as the second half wore on, but we just kept our foot off the gas patting the ball about…………and once again does anyone actually work on throw ins it’s criminal the amount of f***ing about that goes on when we get one, and as mentioned before it’s like Southampton docks in the 70’s “don’t throw that ball it’s not your job - it’s brother Kyles, he’ll be here in 10 minutes after his tea break”. 

Your prediction would be a proper treat.

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I'm clinging to the belief that every season we have a decent run at some stage and a poor run at some stage. This season the decent run is well overdue (NJ's 3 in a week doesn't count, only one was a PL game) so hopefully it starts today. Unfortunately we are playing a team currently  consistently as crap as us, so we all know how that ends.

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3 minutes ago, Wurzel said:

I'm clinging to the belief that every season we have a decent run at some stage and a poor run at some stage. This season the decent run is well overdue (NJ's 3 in a week doesn't count, only one was a PL game) so hopefully it starts today. Unfortunately we are playing a team currently  consistently as crap as us, so we all know how that ends.

There's usually a bit of good in every bad season, and we've not had it yet. My issue is that I don't think that the players give a monkeys, and I don't see us turning the corner. 

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Man the mental gymnastics being done to make lavia the problem.

He's a DM, the amount of balls he wins when he shouldn't, covers someone else's mistake is insane (yes it was intended) and he always breaks forward.

The bloke cannot be expected to then make up for our shit attacking players and create the goals as well.

JWP got forward more when he came on as Grimsby were sitting back and compact so not much defensively to do.

Our biggest issue is scoring from open play, until that is fixed it doesn't matter about our midfielders or defenders as best case scenario we are hoping for a 0-0 unless a JWP special occurs.

We cant score in a brothel with unlimited credit and a suitcase of Viagra.

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38 minutes ago, egg said:

You didn't watch the Grimsby game?!

I did and Lavia is the one highlight of an abysmal season. Don’t know what Selles is playing at singling him out. 
so many useless pedestrian players in the squad epitomised by Ely - who works hard and follows instructions but creates absolutely fck all

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3 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Man the mental gymnastics being done to make lavia the problem.

He's a DM, the amount of balls he wins when he shouldn't, covers someone else's mistake is insane (yes it was intended) and he always breaks forward.

The bloke cannot be expected to then make up for our shit attacking players and create the goals as well.

JWP got forward more when he came on as Grimsby were sitting back and compact so not much defensively to do.

Our biggest issue is scoring from open play, until that is fixed it doesn't matter about our midfielders or defenders as best case scenario we are hoping for a 0-0 unless a JWP special occurs.

We cant score in a brothel with unlimited credit and a suitcase of Viagra.

Exactly. He’s out numbered because we have 4 forwards and just one person alongside to pass to (or 4 people behind him). The 4 forwards are narrow, hidden, marking each others space and not moving. How that is Lavias fault is beyond me.

We didn’t score from open play against a side in last year’s conference with Lavia on the pitch, or with JWP on the pitch. It’s pretty obvious this is not the source of our problems.

I do think it’s telling that 2 managers have called him out so wouldn’t be surprised if there’s an attitude issue. But given where he’s come from and where he’ll obviously end up I wouldn’t particularly blame Lavia for thinking he’s somewhat better than his sh1t team mates and incompetent coaches. 
Not saying that’s an acceptable attitude, just that it’s perhaps understandable 

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12 minutes ago, Chewy said:

Exactly. He’s out numbered because we have 4 forwards and just one person alongside to pass to (or 4 people behind him). The 4 forwards are narrow, hidden, marking each others space and not moving. How that is Lavias fault is beyond me.

We didn’t score from open play against a side in last year’s conference with Lavia on the pitch, or with JWP on the pitch. It’s pretty obvious this is not the source of our problems.

I do think it’s telling that 2 managers have called him out so wouldn’t be surprised if there’s an attitude issue. But given where he’s come from and where he’ll obviously end up I wouldn’t particularly blame Lavia for thinking he’s somewhat better than his sh1t team mates and incompetent coaches. 
Not saying that’s an acceptable attitude, just that it’s perhaps understandable 

I watched the press conference. Seles was asked about Lavia  and he made it plain that Lavia  is young, not there yet but an incredible talent… and needs to work on his game to become the best. No real surprises and it would be wrong to make the comments more than they were. We all know he’s one of the bright spots so far this season.

really hoping we can get a goal or two to lift confidence today! COYR

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1 hour ago, whelk said:

I did and Lavia is the one highlight of an abysmal season. Don’t know what Selles is playing at singling him out. 
so many useless pedestrian players in the squad epitomised by Ely - who works hard and follows instructions but creates absolutely fck all

It was pretty obvious what he was doing with Lavia, the kid is class but is playing within himself - if he wants to be the best he has to keep rising to the occasion and offer more. I.e. Selles has challenged him to step up and do more if he wants to reach his full potential. He also said numerous times within his presser not to load expectation on 18year olds - which is fair as we have a young squad and expectations need to be managed. Fan's getting upset about it are being a bit silly tbh.

Selles also eluded to the fact that Lavia has potential moves away in the summer.

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6 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

He created probably our best chance at Leeds as well. Think we need his experience at the moment.

Hes played at a level most of our players can only dream of. His experience is great, and can he be any less effective than Orsic or Elyounoussi?

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Today is a must win game to give us a great chance of getting out of the current situation. There has to be a massive reaction to Wednesday that's imperative. 2-0 to us Onuachu to grab his first goal for us and Prowsey with another sublime freekick :) COYR 

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2 hours ago, whelk said:

I did and Lavia is the one highlight of an abysmal season. Don’t know what Selles is playing at singling him out. 
so many useless pedestrian players in the squad epitomised by Ely - who works hard and follows instructions but creates absolutely fck all

If you watched the game I'm amazed how you didn't see what JWP added when he replaced Lavia. Selles singled him out for good reason. 

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2 hours ago, Totton Saint said:

I would start Walcott and when he tires take him off. His 'goal' Wednesday merits this

I agree. I  think he’s looked ok recently, and ok is clearly better that “shit” which is the average level of the side at present. 
 

Although I think he’s mainly pony, I’d probably give Djneppo a run out as well. He’s different than anything else we’ve got, I’d send him out to be positive, run at them in the final third and make a nuisance of himself. We can then hook him at half time if he’s pony.

Theres also no point in playing Tall Paul unless we’re going to get it in the mixer early. Wolves first half is probably the benchmark for playing with him. If we’re going to mince about, might as well play Adams.
 

It’s shit or bust today, let’s fly at them. 

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I’m more worried about JWP breaking Beckham’s record while still a saints player right now. 
 

Hopeful and optimistic that we’ll get a good result today but given I’ve felt that way before almost every game I suspect the hope will kill me once more. 
 

Thank god for booze, it’s been a real crutch and friend this season. 
 

4-1 saints. Haven’t even started drinking yet either.

 

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38 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I agree. I  think he’s looked ok recently, and ok is clearly better that “shit” which is the average level of the side at present. 
 

Although I think he’s mainly pony, I’d probably give Djneppo a run out as well. He’s different than anything else we’ve got, I’d send him out to be positive, run at them in the final third and make a nuisance of himself. We can then hook him at half time if he’s pony.

Theres also no point in playing Tall Paul unless we’re going to get it in the mixer early. Wolves first half is probably the benchmark for playing with him. If we’re going to mince about, might as well play Adams.
 

It’s shit or bust today, let’s fly at them. 

Agree regarding Djenepo. Thought he was one trying to take people on wednesday. I really hope it isn't both Moi and Stu in those roles

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I don’t agree at all with what RS said about Lavia. I was at the game on Wednesday night and thought he, along with KWP was the only one that had composure about him. 
 

If there was an issue, it was because of the absolute dog shit behind him that would given Pirlo night sweats. And that’s on you Ruben, you picked the team 

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18 minutes ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

If Maddison is out for this I think we might pull a result here. As bad as Bazunu is, there's no worse keeper in the premier league than Danny Ward. Look at how many goals they concede, I def think it's doable.

Bazunu is the worst keeper in the league now and af any time in the premier league era

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1 hour ago, benjii said:

KWP - ABK - Salisu - Perraud

- - - - JWP - - - Lavia - - - - 

Stu/Theo --- Che---Sulemana

- - - - - - Paul O- - - - - - 

Alcaraz on for Che if that's not working or when Tall Paul gets tired. 

 

 

This would be my side with Willy in goal. 

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Massive game today.  Win, and we could be one point from safety, off the bottom and Selles having won two of three Premier League games in charge.  And a positive feeling ahead of many more home games to come.

 

Lose and we could be cut adrift, six points from safety, with three consecutive defeats in all competitions.  

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Over 50 years following Saints and seen some mediocrity in that time but if I see Bednarek or Elyonoussi on the team sheet again I will be unfollowing!! Might it not be better just to play with 9/10 men instead?! Just saying!!! 🙄

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41 minutes ago, SaintsBarry74 said:

If Maddison is out for this I think we might pull a result here. As bad as Bazunu is, there's no worse keeper in the premier league than Danny Ward. Look at how many goals they concede, I def think it's doable.

I think he's fit I'm afraid, two home wins in 12 months, 5 straight home defeats, this has Saints 1 v 2 Leicester written all over it 

The dark cloud over our heads from Leeds and Grimsby, confidence at rock bottom 

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28 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Because it’s virtually the whole squad bar JWP ?

I know, but it always seems that if a player or a team are on a poor run of form, playing Saints seems to cure it. If we can't find our own remedy team, perhaps we should arrange matches against ourselves.

 

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1 hour ago, LeBizzier69 said:

I’m more worried about JWP breaking Beckham’s record while still a saints player right now. 
 

Hopeful and optimistic that we’ll get a good result today but given I’ve felt that way before almost every game I suspect the hope will kill me once more. 
 

Thank god for booze, it’s been a real crutch and friend this season. 
 

4-1 saints. Haven’t even started drinking yet either.

 

 

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Edozie, Djenepo, Sulemana. No end product between the three of them, but they do always look to take on the opposition and do cause problems at times. Elyounoussi and either Armstrong are too easy to defend against and bring the ball right back to our own half. With Onuachu and Adams as well, who aren’t that good at carrying the ball, then we need the carriers around them, rather than a static front four that we have started most of this season with. Even against Grimsby there wasn’t enough movement up top, so hoping two of the three start today with the other coming off the bench. 

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