Should Saints sack Tonda?

[BARCELONASAINT]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

Funny you should say that looking at your user name, I have a regular work call with a client in Barcelona where we often share a bit of football chat , he told me the story had made the sports news over there but definitely a sense they were laughing about it (pantomime villian kid with a phone, comedy sketch) rather than any outrage. 

Outside of the UK no one cares a jot, what Tonda did it is common practise. Barcelona and Real Madrid would be treated like child killers here in the UK if the EFL or FA had their way!

[Dr Who?]

I see there had been a massive swing in the poll since the first 24/48 hours. Over the last 24 hours more now want him to stay. 

[Saint In Cornwall]

Tonda may be responsible for our ejection from the playoffs but who got us there?

[Maggie May]

20 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

I see there had been a massive swing in the poll since the first 24/48 hours. Over the last 24 hours more now want him to stay. 

Sadly, I don’t think we have a choice. The FA will ban him. This is why there’s radio silence from the club. 

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

Sadly, I don’t think we have a choice. The FA will ban him. This is why there’s radio silence from the club. 

Agreed. There will likely be some announcement at some point this week and that will be the first time the club communicate anything since last week.

[Cuddles]

Why would they ban him though?

[grezz]

This goes beyond Tonda 'getting us there' in my opinion. Of course he did, without question there was nothing to throw away without him. I don't think any sensible person would question that (neither should the players actually). Clearly a brilliant manager and he'll continue to be without the need for spying 'within 72 hours'. 

But how can Saints FC claim any integrity going forwards unless they fire him over this? I don't think we can. It's sad, I hate it, but rebuilding the integrity of the club must come first in my opinion.

Edited 33 minutes ago by grezz

[hugh]

I voted NO right back at the start, and I have waded through every single post on here. Absolutely nothing that I have read has changed my mind. If there is anything at all we can do to keep him, then it needs to be done. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Manager, CEO, Sporting director and technical director have all gone!

 

 

Read more about AC Milan's quick restructure here

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cpqpp7ln1jeo

🙂

[Golac's Iron Gonads]

6 minutes ago, grezz said:

But how can Saints FC claim any integrity going forwards unless they fire him over this? 

Why do they need to claim integrity? Which team in the premier league shows any kind of integrity, how does it manifest itself to us as fans?  The club are not politicians, used car dealers, estate agents. They are a sports club that operate to make money, win games and to a much lesser extent entertain fans. 

[Badger]

1 hour ago, sockeye said:

I completely understand where you're coming from here. But the football world is rife with bad behaviour both on and off of the pitch. Hence the gentlemanly approach doesn't do too much for me. Being nice won't get you anywhere as this whole saga showed. Conversely, Eckert succeeded in his role and has proved himself to be a very capable manager for this level. I feel it would be difficult to get someone just as good, and obviously he's not going to try the whole spying lark again. But I accept that I could well be eating my words in a few months if a new appointment does well or we start badly under Tonda.

I’m in the same boat as you really, but just pointing out the contradictions applied.

For me, heart says I’d like Tonda to remain. Head tells me it won’t happen, probably due to FA suspension or actions. 
 

Parsons seems another bumbling performance by an SR appointment in a key post. 

[SuperSAINT]

13 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Manager, CEO, Sporting director and technical director have all gone!

 

 

Read more about AC Milan's quick restructure here

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cpqpp7ln1jeo

🙂

Cortese to finally get his move?

[grezz]

5 minutes ago, Golac's Iron Gonads said:

Why do they need to claim integrity? Which team in the premier league shows any kind of integrity, how does it manifest itself to us as fans?  The club are not politicians, used car dealers, estate agents. They are a sports club that operate to make money, win games and to a much lesser extent entertain fans. 

For bums on seats? Because it's the right thing to do? Possible that being of an older generation these things mean more to me, and people like me, than the national average. I've no idea about that factually but that's how I feel. I think if Saints fans didn't have a bit of integrity about them they'd more likely be big 6 fans and there's some reason, based on some kind of desire for integrity, that they stick with their local team.

[saintant]

27 minutes ago, grezz said:

This goes beyond Tonda 'getting us there' in my opinion. Of course he did, without question there was nothing to throw away without him. I don't think any sensible person would question that (neither should the players actually). Clearly a brilliant manager and he'll continue to be without the need for spying 'within 72 hours'. 

But how can Saints FC claim any integrity going forwards unless they fire him over this? I don't think we can. It's sad, I hate it, but rebuilding the integrity of the club must come first in my opinion.

There is no integrity in football. It's dog eat dog.

[Cuddles]

3 minutes ago, grezz said:

For bums on seats? Because it's the right thing to do? Possible that being of an older generation these things mean more to me, and people like me, than the national average. I've no idea about that factually but that's how I feel. I think if Saints fans didn't have a bit of integrity about them they'd more likely be big 6 fans and there's some reason, based on some kind of desire for integrity, that they stick with their local team.

The problem is that football has changed. There's no integrity. Everyone is trying to find another way to win. There is no loyalty. Money is now king.