Summer 2020 transfer business

[Pilchards]

It sounds so much like we are bargain hunting, Nothing wrong with that but I would rather a player that comes as a starter player rather than another average squad player.

I personally would sell Gunn and Forster and get Butland in as no 1.

Go big on a decent CB and move Jack Stephen’s as a holding midfielder unless you take a loan holding midfielder in.

Don’t need anymore striker options as Che Adams and Djenipo will get better and better.

 

[Toadhall Saint]

16 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Mentioned...

 

I’d take him on loan but not over a decent CM.

[SuperSAINT]

5 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said:

I’d take him on loan but not over a decent CM.

Yeah, I suppose we have to pick & choose our Prem loan. 

Still wouldn’t surprise me to see Ntcham back on the radar.  SPL would be an archetypal league that will struggle. 

Edited 24 September, 2020 by SuperSAINT

[Turkish]

12 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

It sounds so much like we are bargain hunting, Nothing wrong with that but I would rather a player that comes as a starter player rather than another average squad player.

I personally would sell Gunn and Forster and get Butland in as no 1.

Go big on a decent CB and move Jack Stephen’s as a holding midfielder unless you take a loan holding midfielder in.

Don’t need anymore striker options as Che Adams and Djenipo will get better and better.

 

FFS dont let MLG see this, there will be typos all over his reply. 

[Toadhall Saint]

1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said:

Yeah, I suppose we have to pick & choose our Prem loan. 

Still wouldn’t surprise me to see Ntcham back on the radar.  SPL would be an archetypal league that will struggle. 

I’ve been impressed with RS when I’ve seen him. As to Ntcham he would be my bet. It’s obvious to me from RH’s comments that McKennie was our top target only to be guzumped by some no name team in Italy 😀

[Little Lat Pahars]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

FFS dont let MLG see this, there will be typos all over his reply. 

Let it go mate, you're coming across a bit obsessed!

[saint97]

19 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

It sounds so much like we are bargain hunting, Nothing wrong with that but I would rather a player that comes as a starter player rather than another average squad player.

I personally would sell Gunn and Forster and get Butland in as no 1.

Go big on a decent CB and move Jack Stephen’s as a holding midfielder unless you take a loan holding midfielder in.

Don’t need anymore striker options as Che Adams and Djenipo will get better and better.

 

Why would we get Stoke's second choice in as our first choice? He's completely lost it over the last couple of years. Macca better than all 3. 

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, saint97 said:

Why would we get Stoke's second choice in as our first choice? He's completely lost it over the last couple of years. 

Careful, don't let @Turkish hear you say that!

Edited 24 September, 2020 by Matthew Le God

[Turkish]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

Careful, don't let @Turkish hear you say that!

Hes been terrible for 2+ years

Oh wait that was a typo, it was 1+ years

oh wait he was their player of the year a year ago, make that 1 years

oh wait, that was a typo too, i meant this season. 

 

[Matthew Le God]

Turkish clearly is perfect and has never made a typo in his life. It's not like 1 and 2 are next to each other on a phone keyboard! Oh wait... they are! 🙄

[Turkish]

19 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Turkish clearly is perfect and has never made a typo in his life. It's not like 1 and 2 are next to each other on a phone keyboard! Oh wait... they are! 🙄

What about the + and the use of years instead of year?
3 typos in one number and one word, amazing scenes.  Or you could stop lying and admit you f_cked up.

 

[qwertyell]

46 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

 

I personally would sell Gunn and Forster and get Butland in as no 1.

 

The guy who can't get in a rubbish Championship side? The guy who is so useless with the ball at his feet he managed to fracture his ankle kicking it? (And has never fully recovered from the injury). That guy?

Butland's a write off. Even moreso than Forster.

[Pilchards]

Okay forget Butland but someone else must be better than our current 3?

[Matthew Le God]

 

[trousers]

9 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

someone else must be better than our current 3?

 

[stevy777_x]

6 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Sheldon annoys me.

it is just click bait articles, he is very much guessing like we are doing.

[Saint Matty 76]

He seems to play into rumours a lot more than Carl did, although I'd assume he gets fed very similar information so wouldn't be surprised to see this as a go.

Djenepo/Redmond on the left with Armstrong/RLC on the right, certainly enhances our options.

My only thought is that I can't imagine Chelsea allowing this move without significant first team assurances, does he get that here if Redmond and Armstrong are both fit?

Edited 24 September, 2020 by Saint Matty 76

[Appy]

10 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

He seems to play into rumours a lot more than Carl did, although I'd assume he gets fed very similar information so wouldn't be surprised to see this as a go.

Djenepo/Redmond on the left with Armstrong/RLC on the right, certainly enhances our options.

My only thought is that I can't imagine Chelsea allowing this move without significant first team assurances, does he get that here if Redmond and Armstrong are both fit?

Yes, he’s better than both of them when on form. 

[Jeremy Corbyn]

18 minutes ago, stevy777_x said:

Sheldon annoys me.

it is just click bait articles, he is very much guessing like we are doing.

I really enjoyed Carl's coverage last year, loads of insight, humour and engagement - one of the main reasons I signed up to the athletic.  Been a bit of a drop off and I'll likely not renew.

[Appy]

Just now, Jeremy Corbyn said:

I really enjoyed Carl's coverage last year, loads of insight, humour and engagement - one of the main reasons I signed up to the athletic.  Been a bit of a drop off and I'll likely not renew.

Insight like Weston McKennie the guy that signed for Juventus isn’t good enough for us?

[Rebel]

If we sign an attacking midfielder /winger to play on the right would that free up Armstrong to play in Central Midfield - which by all accounts is his preferred position.

Even if we do what I don't understand is why we  don't use Josh Sims as cover for the right attacking midfielder role

Redmond and Djenepo provide cover for the left attacking midfielder role.

Olivier Ntcham is supposed to be more of an attacking midfielder so maybe his is being looked at as competition for that right attacking midfielder position and cover for CM as well. Ruben Loftus-Cheek would fit this role as well. 

I still feel we need a box-to-box / defensive midfielder that can win the call and progress play up the pitch - Ibrahim Sangare at relegated Toulouse might be worth a look at for this role.  Some of the big clubs were looking at him and I think Toulouse need to sell someone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lets B Avenue]

https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-big-update-on-southampton-bids-to-sign-tom-davies-olivier-ntcham/

Slightly contrary to what some would have us believe.

 

[HarvSFC]

Same site who said we had beaten Leeds to the signing of Harry Wilson.

[Nick75Sfc]

Surprised Ralph said that we would bring new player in but that they were not the first choice players ... that will cheer up the second choice players when or if they join 

[danjosaint]

2 hours ago, Pilchards said:

Okay forget Butland but someone else must be better than our current 3?

I would sell forster and gunn and go and buy Sergio Romero as our no1

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, Nick75Sfc said:

Surprised Ralph said that we would bring new player in but that they were not the first choice players ... that will cheer up the second choice players when or if they join 

 

Mckennie was who we wanted. 

[davefizzy14]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

 

Mckennie was who we wanted. 

Any idea who we are targeting now Hypochondriac?

The Celtic midfielder?

RLC?

Cabral?

[egg]

16 minutes ago, danjosaint said:

I would sell forster and gunn and go and buy Sergio Romero as our no1

Nobody would buy Forster and pay him what we do. 

[hypochondriac]

12 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said:

Any idea who we are targeting now Hypochondriac?

The Celtic midfielder?

RLC?

Cabral?

No I don't I haven't spoken to anyone for a couple of weeks so I know as much as anyone else. Only thing I heard was two out and two in and that one of those off was Boufal. 

[revolution saint]

2 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

I really enjoyed Carl's coverage last year, loads of insight, humour and engagement - one of the main reasons I signed up to the athletic.  Been a bit of a drop off and I'll likely not renew.

Problem from my point of view is that Dan Sheldon appears to be thinking he should be writing for an audience that doesn’t follow saints particularly closely. Most of his articles are full of stuff already in the public domain or discussed on here/social media. It’s either that or he’s paid by word and padding the article like a desperate undergraduate writing a dissertation. To be fair it must be hard finding information not already out there but he needs to do more tactical analysis and be more opinionated (and be prepared to back it up)

[Pilchards]

44 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

 

Mckennie was who we wanted. 

They would of got him if they never fucked around.

Honestly fancy telling Weston to stay put as we need to get rid of 3 players to afford you on our wage bill.

 

 

 

[saint97]

2 hours ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

I really enjoyed Carl's coverage last year, loads of insight, humour and engagement - one of the main reasons I signed up to the athletic.  Been a bit of a drop off and I'll likely not renew.

Agree, Carl was fantastic.. hence why he now covers United. Will still renew though on the new subscription offer

[SuperSAINT]

 

[Saint Garrett]

3 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

He seems to play into rumours a lot more than Carl did, although I'd assume he gets fed very similar information so wouldn't be surprised to see this as a go.

Djenepo/Redmond on the left with Armstrong/RLC on the right, certainly enhances our options.

My only thought is that I can't imagine Chelsea allowing this move without significant first team assurances, does he get that here if Redmond and Armstrong are both fit?

RLC wouldn't be playing out wide, he'd replace Romeu in CM I would expect.

[Saint Matty 76]

1 minute ago, Saint Garrett said:

RLC wouldn't be playing out wide, he'd replace Romeu in CM I would expect.

Playing Loftus-Cheek and Ward-Prowse as a CM partnership would be the stupidest thing of all time.

[Wimborne_saint]

2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

This guy is class. Exactly what we need!

[SuperSAINT]

1 minute ago, Wimborne_saint said:

This guy is class. Exactly what we need!

I’ve heard he’s good — McGrath isn’t one of our usual club informed journos.

[Matthew Le God]

6 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

This is an odd paragraph in that article, which highlights a lack of knowledge on the journalist's part of where our players play...

"In the high-scoring reverse to Spurs they played with James Ward-Prowse in central midfield, with the England midfielder moving in from his usual place on the right flank. Sangaré would provide protection to Hasenhuttl’s defence as an out-and-out defensive midfielder who would slot in alongside Oriol Romeu."

Edited 24 September, 2020 by Matthew Le God

[Saint Matty 76]

I'm not going to lie and claim I've seen him play but he's extremely hyped by a lot of people who watch football over on Twitter.

Would be very happy with him coming in alongside an offensive-minded loan such as RLC.

[Manuel]

My extensive and expert youtube analysis has the CM pretenders in this order of preference:

1 -Sangare

2 - Ntcham

3 - Everton kid (don't think he'll add much despite being prem-ready). 

Can't see Loftus-Cheek coming here so haven't included him.

[Give it to Ron]

https://www.mediareferee.com/2020/08/22/why-tottenham-should-avoid-signing-ibrahim-sangare/ Versatile 

[Harry_SFC]

21 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

RLC wouldn't be playing out wide, he'd replace Romeu in CM I would expect.

From the comments I've seen, Chelsea fans seem to think he's much better in the number 10 role or playing on the right hand side. 

[SuperSAINT]

7 minutes ago, Manuel said:

My extensive and expert youtube analysis has the CM pretenders in this order of preference:

1 -Sangare

2 - Ntcham

3 - Everton kid (don't think he'll add much despite being prem-ready). 

Can't see Loftus-Cheek coming here so haven't included him.

It's a really interesting set of links because they are all a different type of centre-mid.

[HarvSFC]

This link seems the most believable. Going by information from here and in the media Weston McKennie was our top midfield target to replace Hojbjerg. Ntcham, Davies and Loftus-Cheek are completely different midfielders to McKennie and are more in the Armstrong mould, Davies more of a JWP, but without the set-pieces. I've never seen this Sangare play, or heard of him before now, but he seems like more of the midfield battler type, that McKennie and Hojbjerg are.

[Chez]

12 minutes ago, Manuel said:

My extensive and expert youtube analysis has the CM pretenders in this order of preference:

1 -Sangare

2 - Ntcham

3 - Everton kid (don't think he'll add much despite being prem-ready). 

Can't see Loftus-Cheek coming here so haven't included him.

 this must be one of the least impressive youtube videos I have ever watched when looking at players I don't know mentioned on here. If this is all I had to go on, then it'd be a massive no. 

[verlaine1979]

5 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

This link seems the most believable. Going by information from here and in the media Weston McKennie was our top midfield target to replace Hojbjerg. Ntcham, Davies and Loftus-Cheek are completely different midfielders to McKennie and are more in the Armstrong mould, Davies more of a JWP, but without the set-pieces. I've never seen this Sangare play, or heard of him before now, but he seems like more of the midfield battler type, that McKennie and Hojbjerg are.

He seems similar to William Carvalho in stature and style of play - he looks a bit slow and ungainly from YT clips, but hard to tell if that's just a consequence of how big he is.

[Toadhall Saint]

Just now, Chez said:

 this must be one of the least impressive youtube videos I have ever watched when looking at players I don't know mentioned on here. If this is all I had to go on, then it'd be a massive no. 

Good read here:-

 

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/competitions/ligue-1/ibrahim-sangare-at-toulouse-201920-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics

[Manuel]

6 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

It's a really interesting set of links because they are all a different type of centre-mid.

Totally.  Plus always a risk judging performance in Scottish or second tier leagues but if you can play, you can play.  

[Manuel]

Chez, I thought he looked more useful in this one....

 

Edited 24 September, 2020 by Manuel
You'll have to rewind it....

[Chez]

cheers. I like the sentence:  ...he was not only the best player for Toulouse, but he was also one of the best players in Ligue 1 last season.

Watched this video too. He nicks the ball off opponents well, which is obviously needed, but with ball at feet he looks very limited. Again, a youtube video tells you little, but my opinion matter nothing as to whether he comes or not.