Matthew Le God Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Unlike Gao his English is pretty good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 1 hour ago, CanadaSaint said: One of the biggest opportunities out there for clubs like us comes from the profligacy of the big clubs. They hoover up talent, especially young talent, much of which is very good but not good enough. The transfer fees aren't big but the wages have been a problem for us, especially with the loan swallowing a lot of our viability. I don't expect big-price transfers but good young talent and older free agents. I'm hoping that Semmen's comment "we're much better placed than we were yesterday" means that the loan gone. Great Post and with now being linked with Delap and macatee we can accelerate the path of the club. what semmens was alluding to earlier. Bringing in young hungry players and selling them for high transfer fees. We've stagnated in doing this for a few years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulwantsapint81 Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Was there a chance that this was intended to be announced Friday/Saturday/Sunday before Newcastle game to get the ground buzzing thank you Gao there have been worse owners & not your fault China changed the rules as soon as you arrived 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 I wonder who the other clubs in the empire may be and whether movement of players between them will be (legally) easier. also the ex Brentford Dane is a fan of Moneyball type signings, says Alex Crook on TalkSPORT, but that is more about unlikely players fitting a team scenario than just selling on players for high fees (as he put it), no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey88 Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, DT said: I wonder who the other clubs in the empire may be and whether movement of players between them will be (legally) easier. also the ex Brentford Dane is a fan of Moneyball type signings, says Alex Crook on TalkSPORT, but that is more about unlikely players fitting a team scenario than just selling on players for high fees (as he put it), no? I’ve always found that journalist/pundits in this country use the term ‘moneyball’ to describe buying players cheap and selling them for profit which isn’t really what Moneyball in baseball is/was about at all. Moneyball is all about finding players who the competition undervalue whilst being willing to let go off players who the competition overvalue, with all of this backed up with stats. Edited 4 January, 2022 by Mikey88 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mikey88 said: I’ve always found that journalist/pundits in this country use the term ‘moneyball’ to describe buying players cheap and selling them for profit which isn’t really what Moneyball in baseball is/was about at all. Moneyball is all about finding players who the competition undervalue whilst being willing to let go off players who the competition overvalue, with all of this backed up with stats. Indeed, but it's also about accepting players with flaws if they have strong attributes that work in a team and overall contribute to regular wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Whilst I’m pleased with a lot of the murmurs, I was thinking how do we know that we won’t be operating any differently from that of the Pozzo family who owned Watford/Udinese/Granada? At heart is not the same concept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 See the film Moneyball for details 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 (edited) If they get rid of the pony “we march on” mantra, they’ll do for me. Edited 4 January, 2022 by Lord Duckhunter 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: If they get rid of the pony “we march on” mantra, they’ll do for me. What it they replace it with "We are Southampton. We outperform our xG" 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 46 minutes ago, Paulwantsapint81 said: Was there a chance that this was intended to be announced Friday/Saturday/Sunday before Newcastle game to get the ground buzzing thank you Gao there have been worse owners & not your fault China changed the rules as soon as you arrived In agreement with this. As far as absentee landlords go we could have had worse. Gao didn’t invest but he didn’t strip us either. I don’t see the hate he receives. He came in and the rules changed. Good luck to him. Lets hope this lot are a stable influence and no fly by nights. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 5 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: If they get rid of the pony “we march on” mantra, they’ll do for me. We don’t have a Pony called “we march on”. You are obsessed with horses. I’d look into that if I were you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: If they get rid of the pony “we march on” mantra, they’ll do for me. Mantra exponent in slamming other mantra shocker... #legend Edited 4 January, 2022 by trousers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 35 minutes ago, Mikey88 said: I’ve always found that journalist/pundits in this country use the term ‘moneyball’ to describe buying players cheap and selling them for profit which isn’t really what Moneyball in baseball is/was about at all. Moneyball is all about finding players who the competition undervalue whilst being willing to let go off players who the competition overvalue, with all of this backed up with stats. So buying bargains and mugging buyers off. Livramento. Vestergaard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Well it certainly feels a lot better than the Goa deal, although given we had to find a loop hole in the rules to let him buy us then it'd be hard not too. It all feels like a very good fit. I'm sure Dragan will be delighted i've given him the Turkish seal of approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Trying to read this thread to gauge opinion and seek information but have given up due to it turning into a playground slanging match just like every other one on here. You people are pathetic. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: Goa I'm guessing that was deliberate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 1 minute ago, mynameisthehulk said: Trying to read this thread to gauge opinion and seek information but have given up due to it turning into a playground slanging match just like every other one on here. You people are pathetic. The general opinion seems to be that of optimism and that the people involved seem very credible as well as those already here staying on. So far so good. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I'm guessing that was deliberate? YES! Well spotted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 18 minutes ago, The Cat said: What it they replace it with "We are Southampton. We outperform our xG" xG is the lifeblood of our club now. The club is well and truly run by people like me 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 2 minutes ago, TWar said: xG is the lifeblood of our club now. The club is well and truly run by people like me 😂 I was feeling optimistic until then. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Hearing rumours Kraft may insist we play in triangles. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Just now, TWar said: xG is the lifeblood of our club now. The club is well and truly run by people like me 😂 Can you get some stats based chants going at games soon? "Ohh Hojbjerg is a wanker, his pass completion's crap, and when we analyse his carries per game he looks a fucking twat." 1 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Oh when the Saints, outperform xG, oh when the Saints outperform xG, I wanna be in that number, oh when the Saints outperform xG. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M271 Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 4 minutes ago, wadesmith said: Hearing rumours Kraft may insist we play in triangles. That's a bit cheesey! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Cat said: Can you get some stats based chants going at games soon? "Ohh Hojbjerg is a wanker, his pass completion's crap, and when we analyse his carries per game he looks a fucking twat." A couple dedicated to my Duckhunting friend: "Ward-Prowse is a legend, his pass completions scary, he tops out chance creation stats, and ain't a mincing fairy" "Ralph has a higher win rate, than Howe who is a phony, I've heard that Puel was better, but that's a load of pony" "Tino's running down the right, The tackles are in vain, He's come to saints to play with Ralph This signing was... quite good actually 😉" Edited 4 January, 2022 by TWar 2 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Ok, he doesn’t like paying tax. But on the plus side, he’s not a warlord. What’s not to like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 36 minutes ago, Warriorsaint said: In agreement with this. As far as absentee landlords go we could have had worse. Gao didn’t invest but he didn’t strip us either. I don’t see the hate he receives. He came in and the rules changed. Good luck to him. Lets hope this lot are a stable influence and no fly by nights. No need to hate him. He lost a lot of his money. It proved much worse for him than for us. We got out of it ok. He didn't. He is the loser. Be sorry for him and wish him well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Force Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Just wanting to check if this guy has any links to any of the dodgy stuff in that part of the world that happened in the 90s. As I would like to keep my sense of moral superiority vis a vis Newcastle. If that bits good I am ready to get on borad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mystic Force said: Just wanting to check if this guy has any links to any of the dodgy stuff in that part of the world that happened in the 90s. As I would like to keep my sense of moral superiority vis a vis Newcastle. If that bits good I am ready to get on borad. He's only 41......born in 1980, i doubt he was running around doing anything massively dodgy in his teens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mystic Force said: Just wanting to check if this guy has any links to any of the dodgy stuff in that part of the world that happened in the 90s. As I would like to keep my sense of moral superiority vis a vis Newcastle. If that bits good I am ready to get on borad. He doesn’t like the neo-liberal, pro-EU Progressive Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 35 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I'm guessing that was deliberate? I see MLG is still allergic to avoiding anything he can remotely be pedantic about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Feels very early to say anything too positive, but a few things are clear to me: - Gao May have been a disappointment re funding, but at least he didn’t interfere with the management of the club and I feel current management team have done well overall. Pleased Semmens is staying (for now) - We were though incredibly reliant (more so than most) on player transfers given no net spend, and it feels like one bad summer could have done for us (it nearly did the year before Ralph) - FC Michy Land (spell check please) and Brentford have, pound for pound, been two of the most successful clubs in Europe in recent times. Feels too simple to call it a coincidence 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 42 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I'm guessing that was deliberate? yes, well done Rain Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Since '51 Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 14 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: He's only 41......born in 1980, i doubt he was running around doing anything massively dodgy in his teens. Are you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Since '51 Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 1 minute ago, Saint Since '51 said: Are you sure? I think he's 57. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkswood Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 17 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: He's only 41......born in 1980, i doubt he was running around doing anything massively dodgy in his teens. HE'S ONLY 41 !!!!!!!! 😳😳😳 Ive wasted my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 18 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said: He's only 41......born in 1980, i doubt he was running around doing anything massively dodgy in his teens. That's the chess player. Ours was born in 1964. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 I'm assuming Sport Republic is a brand new company hence there's little info about them and they don't have a glossy website. Not suggesting this is a bad thing as the guys involved have a lot of credentials which is important plus they have the backing of the Serbian billionaire. This could be the start of an exciting ride as we seem to be their initial investment so they'll be very keen to see that we progress quickly as a football team and as a business. I believe they'll be looking to hit the ground running having planned this venture for a long time. Hopefully we'll be glad they chose us as the corner stone to their ambitions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Hearing Martin Semmens speak on Solent he is very reassuring. Maybe I'm naive but it feels like he's a good and intelligent bloke who does actually care. Very pleased he, Crocker and Steele are staying. If he feels this is good for the club then I'm on board. Whilst we could have had a much worse owner than Gao, it feels like SFC has had a millstone removed from round it's neck., but only time will tell. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 8 hours ago, Tom said: Hopefully this new owner has the foresight to extend Longs contract at once. £30k a week with a £5m a goal bonus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve green Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Turkish said: £30k a week with a £5m a goal bonus 5k a week and 30m a goal surely. Edited 4 January, 2022 by steve green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 3 minutes ago, steve green said: 5k a week and 30m a goal surely. I think 5k is way over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 5 hours ago, Chez said: what makes you think 99% of our debt is shareholder debt? Isn't the £70m loan (the lions share of our debt) taken out by the company (SFC) from MSD capital? Oh right I was looking at the football company not the group hold co. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Employees at the club I know think it's great news which is good enough for me. Should allow us to make a few more canny signings and make our way up the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: If they get rid of the pony “we march on” mantra, they’ll do for me. If they get rid of the crap second half’s - I’ll take that ahead of strap lines Edited 4 January, 2022 by John Boy Saint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 Does this mean we will deep into the transfer market now although Ralph said he is happy with the squad?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 2 minutes ago, Saint Billy said: Does this mean we will deep into the transfer market now although Ralph said he is happy with the squad?. You'd like to think we'd make at least one decent signing given the new owners would want to boost morale I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: You'd like to think we'd make at least one decent signing given the new owners would want to boost morale I'm sure. Broja permanent, a decent GK (Henderson my preference, although probably unlikely) and a DCM would do me🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 4 January, 2022 Share Posted 4 January, 2022 22 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: You'd like to think we'd make at least one decent signing given the new owners would want to boost morale I'm sure. My morale is great thank you. I love our annual 9-0 spanking we are record breakers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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