sfc4prem Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 I mean, what do we expect really. We're without Bella and Duje at CB, are playing a Championship RB and now a RW with no physicality at LB. Dreamy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 It's not quite over yet. If we score the next goal, there will be a lot of pressure on them. Need to see Perraud on for Bree. And Lavia for Dallio. Let's give this our best shot. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Red card at half time in the tunnel Did somebody knife Murphy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Really demoralising for anyone having to sit through that 20 mins, as worst as I've ever seen. The biggest problem in this half has been that diabolical midfield. Diallo being Diallo, not good enough. JWP trying to play high up, but getting caught. Alcaraz terrible on the ball, looks just like you'd expect a 20 year old kid to look in a game like this. Lyanco though, holy jesus. How can he still get picked? The guy is beyond bad. Bednarek being Bednarek as well, ball watching, getting done by pace and turned. Terrible player as we all knew. Bree, hmm - wtf? Anyway....2nd half, keep the score down? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Just seeing that 1st goal again. Twice we gave the ball away under no pressure at all. That is unforgivable. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 we’ve been fairly shit, but we’re still in this. che adams looks fairly dangerous when we get him on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 January, 2023 Author Share Posted 31 January, 2023 7 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Never get this have a free kick on half way line, pass all the way back to keeper to wallop it back to opposition absolutely this. Possession is important, but we just lose it anyway in a deeper position. Ok to do it when the opponents don't press or are tired, but when they are all over you, just go forward from the free kick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Holy shit Alcaraz on that second goal is fucking embarrassing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, coalman said: Caleta-Car >> Lyanco Perraud >> Bednarek Mara >> Armstrong Lavia >> Diallo Let's at least go out going for it and trying to play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 midfield isn’t getting into them, overrun every time. defence shitting themselves on the ball still using the failed 1st leg tactic of passing from the back bazunu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 They are obviously miles better than us and we started with a stupid formation but we really don't help ourselves with completely shit passing. Time and again we give the ball away needlessly. Salisu and Diallo seem to be the main culprits but pretty much all of them are capable of knocking an easy pass 5 yards away from where it should be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Seeing the goals again, Armstrong for the first sums this team up. He just stopped and whined at someone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Just now, Saint Matty 76 said: Holy shit Alcaraz on that second goal is fucking embarrassing And Diallo, if he moves faster than a jog then he ends up stood directly in between the guy playing the pass and Longstaff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronCitySaint Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 How many games has this idiot cost us with this stupid formation that everyone else can see does not work? It is totally brainless and suggests he cannot see what the hell is going on. Every time we use the 3/5 at the back it stinks. Each time it is changed to 4 at the back it is (marginally) better. What goes through a managers head to think that trying the same failed rubbish over and over again is going to make a difference? It is literally crazy. Oh, and it is also genius to give someone a debut away at Newcastle in a cup semi. Just normal, everyday stuff going on here. Manager sits down and thinks, "yeah, let's give a lower league right back his debut in a semi final, so I can then play my best right back at left back and leave my best left back on the bench as a reward for a great game at the weekend." Total genius. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisonlyonemickychannon Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 So far Bree, Salisu and Alcatraz are shite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Fan Dan Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 2 former Newcastle players vs Franny. No bias here from Sky 🙄 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Lavia and Perraud coming on apparently The amount of changes he has to waste due to fucking up his selections is beyond me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Just now, Saint NL said: Seeing the goals again, Armstrong for the first sums this team up. He just stopped and whined at someone else. Armstrong has been terrible this half, the experiment of playing him in his supposed position through the middle has run it's course. What a waste of £15m he was. Wouldn't even want him in the Championship. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: I mean, what do we expect really. We're without Bella and Duje at CB, are playing a Championship RB and now a RW with no physicality at LB. Dreamy. Salisu is LB now isn't he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Just now, The Cat said: Salisu is LB now isn't he? Yes and has been for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: we’ve been fairly shit, but we’re still in this. che adams looks fairly dangerous when we get him on the ball. They made the point on comms that he’d touched the ball 6 times, including the goal and two kick offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 1 minute ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Lavia and Perraud coming on apparently The amount of changes he has to waste due to fucking up his selections is beyond me Both should have started. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 (edited) Both Lavia and Perraud coming on will help massively. Edited 31 January, 2023 by davefizzy14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 January, 2023 Author Share Posted 31 January, 2023 1 minute ago, The Cat said: They are obviously miles better than us and we started with a stupid formation but we really don't help ourselves with completely shit passing. Time and again we give the ball away needlessly. Salisu and Diallo seem to be the main culprits but pretty much all of them are capable of knocking an easy pass 5 yards away from where it should be. the first goal was because we gave the ball away so cheaply in our own half. We killed ourselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Not surprised one of our coaching staff got sent off. Ref has been incredibly biased. Apparently it was Nat’s interpreter, couldn’t keep up with the pace and imploded! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 9 minutes ago, Tanlee said: Neither for or against Jones at present but I find the support for a manager who lost twice 9-0 to at goodish Leicester side and a bang average utd fucking weird. Short memories I loved Ralph but the the venom from our fans is weird. Same for the sh1t Brees got so far. It’s his debut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Who’s been sent off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 1 minute ago, Saint NL said: Seeing the goals again, Armstrong for the first sums this team up. He just stopped and whined at someone else. There's so many mistakes for that goal, complete shambles. We have 3 midfielders and none of them tracked Longstaff for either goal. Salisu ran to mark the wrong player for the first goal. Mostly comes from poor organisation and not knowing roles, possibly from playing 5 at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 There is literally no point in the CBs pulling wide, when they dont have the ability/confidence to play through the press. Thinking we're Man City, only to just pump it 50 yards which Bazunu could do. The mind boggles. Hope when big Paul arrives we'll just play it long from the goal kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Just now, saintant said: Both should have started. Exactly, why do we have to go through this routine with the starting 11 every time. It was inevitable to me that the midfield would be gobbled up and spat out, and that's exactly what happened. How can a coach paid more than I could ever dream of not seeing that? I miss Ralph. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 34 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said: Bit early to write Bree off totally. Don’t know why he’s getting pelters. It’s his debut. He’s been sh1te, but one game? Cmon. Should not have been selected (except for back up) - nor Diallo, nor Bednarek, nor Lyanco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Personally I think Diallo and Lyanco have been ok. Bree debut is concerning, hopefully it is just making his debut in that hot mess of a 5-3-2 that everyone looked lost. Us bringing back the useless bednarek and playing him over DCC insane. Still not a fan of Bazanu. Gives me kittens constantly. That one where he accidently stopped a goal with his face when he came stupidly for the corner would have been funny if i wasn't a saints fan. Don't see much point in throwing Lavia on unless we get another goal back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 1 minute ago, Sunglasses Ron said: Who’s been sent off? Sheehan apparently. Hope he gave Tierney a volley of shit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Saints might have a chance in games if they didn't pass the ball to their opponents so often. We give it away so cheaply at times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 9 minutes ago, jabei said: Charlie not been good tonight either. It's not all Diallo. terrible defence and weak midfield & attack. Baffling team selection Don't disagree but the point of the post stands and the 2nd bit in bold reinforces it. He's clueless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 1 minute ago, Crab Lungs said: I loved Ralph but the the venom from our fans is weird. Same for the sh1t Brees got so far. It’s his debut. Think thats the issue. Its a massive game to throw somebody into on their debut, after training with the team for a couple of days. It hasnt worked and the manager needs to own that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said: Who’s been sent off? Alan Sheehan apparently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Yes and has been for a while To be fair, Salisu was brilliant last week against Newcastle, shame the manager changed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Jones is functioning like a manager who doesn’t report to anybody – at least anybody with any understanding of the game. It’s mind-blowing that he’s allowed to persist with formations that are clearly suicidal. Starting Bree, who’s never played at anywhere near this level, when he has an established RB and LB at his disposal was absolutely mental. Ralph was hammered for not having a Plan B, but for 80% of his games Jones’s Plan A has been dreadful. He seems hell-bent on playing to our weaknesses with his Back 3/Back 5 shit. My question is this: Who does Jones report to on the playing and tactical side, other than his own inflated ego? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Hopefully that’s the last time Lyanco starts for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 I wonder if Ankersen and Semmens are beginning to see where their innovative off piste appointment is taking us. Surely Solak is on to Jones by now! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Hopefully that is the last time we see Lyanco in a Saints shirt. 100% passion. 0% ability. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint WGC Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 At least I have a small consolation. Did a couple of quid on Longstaff to score any time at 15/2 and a quid at 100/1 on him to score two or more. Only did it cos Longstaff is usually crap and hardly ever scores, thought he’d have a chance tonight with Saints turning up. Not sure my £4 on Saints to win from behind at 45/1 is going to happen unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 January, 2023 Author Share Posted 31 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Cat said: There's so many mistakes for that goal, complete shambles. We have 3 midfielders and none of them tracked Longstaff for either goal. Salisu ran to mark the wrong player for the first goal. Mostly comes from poor organisation and not knowing roles, possibly from playing 5 at the back. the five at the back means forward players have more players to cover, so at some point a CB has to pick up a midfielder, but often its just too late - see second goal. Armstrong doesn't track and Bednarek can't step out to Longstaff quick enough (not his fault). You have players back, but usually one if not marking anyone, but midfield runners are not picked up. It's a bullshit formation. Instead of providing overloads it just leaves gaps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Jeez Sky coverage is 90% Newcastle. FFS. Even more reason to hope we stuff their hopes and dreams up where the sun don’t shine. So is beIN Sports. They can't believe that Saints scored. Literally "that is unbelievable, Pope has NOT conceded for ten games; who would have thought that the team bottom of the table would have scored past him?" Well, we did. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 Lyanco had a mare, and Alcarez was anonymous. Let's hope this change helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 (edited) Who the fuck is Alan Sheehan? And if he's a member of our staff who thinks we've been hard done by then he's a fucking moron. Is he Mad Nath's qualification-less mate? Embarrassing. Edited 31 January, 2023 by benjii 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 why couldnt have our subs both started?.................fucking crazy its a fucking semi final........................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 (edited) How does that useless sack of garbage bednarek stay on. Be really annoyed if this is a sign he's going to appear regularly. 2 minutes in puts his team in a mess again. Edited 31 January, 2023 by Baird of the land 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 31 January, 2023 Share Posted 31 January, 2023 1 minute ago, woodsaint1 said: Think thats the issue. Its a massive game to throw somebody into on their debut, after training with the team for a couple of days. It hasnt worked and the manager needs to own that It's especially baffling when you consider that Bree was only signed as emergency backup while Tino is still injured. To throw him in tonight, at the expense of a FB who was our best player on Saturday, is just mental. So Perraud comes on for Lyanco and now we are onto our 4th different defensive formation of the evening. Wonderful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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