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Saints 1-2 Wolves - Match Thread


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When we made complaints against officials a few weeks ago I found it odd that we didn't also complain about Graham Scott for his part in the VAR decision in the match against Villa. Now we have seen him again making dodgy decisions against us.

While most referees have moved on from the crazy interprtation of the handball rule which plagued football at the start of the season, it seems that Graham Scott has used the uncertainty as an excuse to give a big decision against Saints. No doubt he will be on the phone to his mates Deam and Mason to celebrate tonight. 😒

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8 minutes ago, trousers said:

Just because we started the 2nd half poorly doesn't mean the woeful officiating didn't make a significant difference. It did.

Fans can focus on penalties though, the players should have come out fired up in the second to carry on applying pressure and be on the front foot. Any team playing us that is 1 nil down at half time knows they can come at us early doors and we will fold. We have a mentality problem. Super harsh penalty but that only made it 1-1. We’ve been weak in our attitude yet again. 

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Fucking hell, six defeats in a row - and Chelsea next, so that'll be seven. Looks like KWP is injured again, so that's terrific.

Snap your hand off for six more points and probable survival. Can't see where they're coming from any time soon.

Still keeping an eye on Fulham and West Brom's results...

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3 minutes ago, wooley7 said:

It’s not just the big decisions going against us.  It’s been this way for a few weeks.

I agree. We've not had the decisions in our favour but that excuse only goes so far. Ralph's tactical range for example is extremely limited. Even right now we are fixed rigidly in his way.

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Just now, wooley7 said:

It’s not just the big decisions going against us.  It’s been this way for a few weeks. The game is being ruined, never felt so pissed off with football. Can deal with being out played and losing but there are a few games lately that have been decided against us by refereeing decisions.

Indeed. We had plenty of poor second half performances during our 'top 6 form' run in 2020, but we were able to ride out the storm more often than not. Whilst not the sole factor, the woeful officiating has definitely been the straw that broke the camel's back on numerous occasions in recent times. 

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Just now, BotleySaint said:

I agree. We've not had the decisions in out favour but that excuse only goes so far. Ralph's tactical range or example is extremely limited. Even right now we are fixed rigidly in his way.

Why didn't Ralph's 'limited tactics' trip us up in 2020 as much as they're supposedly tripping us up now...?

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6 minutes ago, BotleySaint said:

Starting to think maybe Ralph has taken us as far as he can. Plenty of positives from his tenure but we need some new ideas.

Can you see anyone taking us any further whilst gao remains at the helm.. need to accept that our better players will be gone over the summer.

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Just now, geoffnut said:

Two 9-0  defeats and a record 6 defeats in a row. I don't think the manager can survive this.

Don't be so bloody ridiculous!  Ralph has some severe limitations (as we are seeing) but who else would come in and take on this mentally fragile group and get different results?  This is a poor team that overachieved for half the season and are now underachieving.  

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2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Really starting to think that we might be starting to have a bit of a problem with Ralph. 

He has been good for us and we won't get better (but maybe we need something different?) He has had bad injuries and bad decisions but at the same time has to be accountable for poor second half tactics and  inability to defend a lead at some point  

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Just now, madge said:

Can you see anyone taking us any further whilst gao remains at the helm.. need to accept that our better players will be gone over the summer.

Without knowing who is available its hard to say. But yes, a lack of investment is also working against him/us.

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So when we play other teams who need an equaliser against us in the last few minutes they go all out, throw everything at us and score. Yet when we need a goal we do absolutely nothing apart from fannying around passing side to side at the back. 

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What people don't realise is confidence is going to be fragile in this team and we are basically going week in and week out to decisions that screw that team over, how do you think they feel when basically every time they play, the ref is giving the opposition a goal or taking one of those away in a blunder. 

They have basically been playing against 12 men every week.

And goals change games, Wolves don't get that absurd pen, they are not back in the game. 

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I think with Ralph- we know Plan A works- its a good plan, but it is a plan that needs 110% from our players and when you have limited players like we do who don’t make it count when we are on top- then you always leave yourself exposed to an opposition comeback 

I know this is a congested season, but I get the feeling Ralph knows our team is limited technically so the only way to get results against teams is to outrun them. 
I’m not entirely sure what the solution is- do we coach a plan B into this team? What plan B is there when your players are both limited and leggy/tired?

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2 minutes ago, Mr X said:

He has been good for us and we won't get better (but maybe we need something different?) He has had bad injuries and bad decisions but at the same time has to be accountable for poor second half tactics and  inability to defend a lead at some point  

That's my point. There seems to be real issues with protecting leads and the longer it goes on the bigger the issue is going to be. 

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You could argue that this team is the worst team in our history. Might sound quite a brash statement to make, but this lot have lost 9-0 twice and have just lost 6 games in a row - the most this club has ever lost in a row in any league.

We are mentally weak, fragile and lack any sort of leadership. When the chips are down we wilt, every single time. That won't change without significant changes in the playing squad, which is something we can't do as we have an owner who doesn't support us.

Long and short of it, we are fucked. No idea where we are heading.

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