os862saints Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 Tough game, no easy points in this league at all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 (edited) Odds on a Werner hat-trick? Hopefully the extra rest will do us some good. But can't really see us getting anything. Edited 14 February, 2021 by BotleySaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 Saints to win 2-1. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 Given the state of our lot right now I'd probably take a 0 - 2 loss if you offered it to me. They have much more quality than us and I fear yet another humiliating home bumming. Somebody wake me up when this nightmare is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 14 February, 2021 Share Posted 14 February, 2021 KWP injured. JWP and Romeu look knackered, Diallo still out. Step forward Alex Jankowitz, your time has come nipper. Back from suspension let's show the Premier League what you've got. When did we last beat Chelsea at St Mary's? I don't think they are that great and have a Champions league game v Athletico Madrid a few days later but our league form and bad run of referee decisions has left confidence low. Hope for a point to get us to 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle04 Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Given the events of the last 2 months with injuries/VAR/generally being a shit team , "on paper" we have no chance of a positive result, and yes, at the moment we are shit, the only oasis was beating a mid table reserve side in a cup we have no chance of winning. Ralphs style of play has clearly unravelled, the players simply aren't good enough or fit enough to sustain it for anything like 90 minutes lately. The team are mentally weak and lacking in confidence and on-field leadership. We can't hold onto a lead, can't chase a game when a goal behind, and can't defend for our lives when under the cosh. We are losing to shit teams and getting hammered by good ones. 0-3 Chelsea, dodgy penalty and a sending off 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Given that we have played a game nearly every 3-4 days since 16th January, and now having nearly a full week to recharge. Hopefully we will be able to get back towards the type of performances that we are all use to seeing from Saints before Christmas. We looked leggy yesterday especially after the air vanished out of our balloon on that penalty decision, Redmond looked to have had a slightly better game for us, but that is likely down to the fact that he hasn't played as much as most of the team over that time period so was a tad fresher. We now know that KWP is broken once more, so we have a week to get young Ramsey bedded in more rather than fanny about at right back with square pegs for round holes (personally I thought that he was about the only positive from the OT game), he has to be better than Djenepo back there as he looks like an accident waiting to happen, or maybe that his legs going in all directions fooling my eyes. On paper and given our recent form it does look like a bit of grim prospect of a game, but as a Saints fan of many years as always I have hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said: Given that we have played a game nearly every 3-4 days since 16th January, and now having nearly a full week to recharge. Hopefully we will be able to get back towards the type of performances that we are all use to seeing from Saints before Christmas. We looked leggy yesterday especially after the air vanished out of our balloon on that penalty decision, Redmond looked to have had a slightly better game for us, but that is likely down to the fact that he hasn't played as much as most of the team over that time period so was a tad fresher. We now know that KWP is broken once more, so we have a week to get young Ramsey bedded in more rather than fanny about at right back with square pegs for round holes (personally I thought that he was about the only positive from the OT game), he has to be better than Djenepo back there as he looks like an accident waiting to happen, or maybe that his legs going in all directions fooling my eyes. On paper and given our recent form it does look like a bit of grim prospect of a game, but as a Saints fan of many years as always I have hope. Didn't I read somewhere that Salisu can play at RB? Realistically, what can we do to change things around before the weekend? Morale will be shot to pieces and there is every danger that we will try too hard to get things right and screw it up completely as a result. No doubt we'll come out all gung-ho and at 'em then concede early on and collapse like a pricked balloon. This one worries me, a Chelseas side bolstered by a new dynamic manager versus a fragile Saints side at rock bottom physically and mentally. 0-5 is niggling. Edited 15 February, 2021 by Charlie Wayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 29 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: Didn't I read somewhere that Salisu can play at RB? Realistically, what can we do to change things around before the weekend? Morale will be shot to pieces and there is every danger that we will try too hard to get things right and screw it up completely as a result. No doubt we'll come out all gung-ho and at 'em then concede early on and collapse like a pricked balloon. This one worries me, a Chelseas side bolstered by a new dynamic manager versus a fragile Saints side at rock bottom physically and mentally. 0-5 is niggling. Don't think Chelsea have been that brilliant under their new 'dynamic' manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Outplayed by Barnsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Forster/McCarthy Bednarek Vestergard Salisu Redmond JWP Rom Bertrand Armstrong Adams Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curse of St Mary's Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 With no direct replacement for KWP I think Ralph will have no option other than to go with 3-4-3. Redmond much better without the ball than Djenepo so play him at rwb to make us more solid although he's not going to take the left back on so we will have to find other ways to attack. Armstrong and Ings are key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Evil Monkey said: Forster/McCarthy Bednarek Vestergard Salisu Redmond JWP Rom Bertrand Armstrong Adams Ings Assuming that's a back 4, I'd agree except drop Redmond and give Minimouso a go out wide. Edited 15 February, 2021 by Toussaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 12 hours ago, Micky said: Given the state of our lot right now I'd probably take a 0 - 2 loss if you offered it to me. They have much more quality than us and I fear yet another humiliating home bumming. Somebody wake me up when this nightmare is over. What month do you want waking up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 1 hour ago, Evil Monkey said: Forster/McCarthy Bednarek Vestergard Salisu Redmond JWP Rom Bertrand Armstrong Adams Ings 2 goal keepers good plan and I'm not joking. Forster only uses his legs anyway, so that would actually be feasible. Doubt we could afford the bribe to play 12 so guess Adams drops out. Such is our perilous state, that what would normally be a classic bit of annoying pedantry, worthy of derision, is actually a reasonable observation. 73/74 and 88 were terrible. This slump is becoming alarming. How did we beat Liverpool! Being serious, Forster to play and Stephens or Ramsey at RB. I don't fancy 3 at the back, too much bad karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 13 hours ago, JRM said: Step forward Alex Jankowitz, your time has come nipper. Back from suspension let's show the Premier League what you've got. Alex's suspension was for 3 PL games, wasn't it. Not available for Chelsea if that is the case, but I can't find a definitive statement. The FA Cup game definitely didn't count. Daft thing is that a 3 game suspension for a sending off after 75 seconds effectively means a 4 game suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 12 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: Alex's suspension was for 3 PL games, wasn't it. Not available for Chelsea if that is the case, but I can't find a definitive statement. The FA Cup game definitely didn't count. Daft thing is that a 3 game suspension for a sending off after 75 seconds effectively means a 4 game suspension. I read (on here I think) that suspensions relating to yellows were competition specific, but suspensions for reds cover all games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 8 hours ago, danjosaint said: Outplayed by Barnsley Barnsley are the team to back in the Championship. Good value to beat the bookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Forster (No matter the opposition he's clearly more confident off the back of a series of cleansheets so perhaps worth a roll of the dice) Stephens Bednarek Vestergaard Bertrand Romeu JWP Armstrong Redmond Adams Ings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 A key game for us, we need to take something from this be it a point in a goaless draw even, anything to stop the rot! I fear if we are on the end of another hammering we will be mentally too fraggile to recover our season & things could get very nasty, seven losses in a row seems unthinkable. We need to play percentage route one football for one game ditch the tippy tappy sideways malarkey let's win ugly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Forster Bed Vesty Salisu redders Jwp Romeu Djenepo Armstrong Adams Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Park the bus, get a scrappy 0-0. Slowly rebuild our confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 7 hours ago, JRM said: I read (on here I think) that suspensions relating to yellows were competition specific, but suspensions for reds cover all games. That’s right - they’ve changed the rules on yellows but Reds are across all competitions so Alex could feature at the weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Chelsea 2-0 up against Newcastle at half time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Warming up nicely and they seem to have a full squad available our only hope is they get cocky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, fanimal said: Warming up nicely and they seem to have a full squad available our only hope is they get cocky At least Werner has broken his duck, I was sensing the inevitable 'werner hasn't scored in 1000 years, here's Southampton' headlines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mr X said: Chelsea 2-0 up against Newcastle at half time Everybody beats Newcastle so it doesn’t tell you anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Pilchards said: Everybody beats Newcastle so it doesn’t tell you anything. You're right. Newcastle haven't won for ages have they. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Their left side with Alonso or Chilwell and Werner in front will kill us down the right with a makeshift RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dusic said: Their left side with Alonso or Chilwell and Werner in front will kill us down the right with a makeshift RB. Shall we just start the build up thread to Leeds away now? Might as well forget this game tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 45 minutes ago, Pilchards said: Everybody beats Newcastle so it doesn’t tell you anything. Everyone bar us though 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 We will undoubtedly lose this game, in fact I’d say it’s nailed on. The worst part of all this is that we are a complete laughing stock and the Skates are proper laughing at us, we are giving them all the ammo they need with these unwanted records. Who the fuck loses 9-0 twice in a Millennium let alone two seasons!? Who would honestly rule out the possibility of Southampton being relegated after having 29 points in January? I wouldn’t...It would be so fucking ‘Saintsy’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Dorchester Saint said: The worst part of all this is that we are a complete laughing stock and the Skates are proper laughing at us, we are giving them all the ammo they need Please excuse me whilst I continue to laugh at them languishing in League 1 with Marquis as their top scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 37 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Shall we just start the build up thread to Leeds away now? Might as well forget this game tbh. Leeds are free scoring too, shall we go to the one after that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Just now, S-Clarke said: Please excuse me whilst I continue to laugh at them languishing in League 1 with Marquis as their top scorer. Don’t laugh too hard....we may well be playing them next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Dorchester Saint said: We will undoubtedly lose this game, in fact I’d say it’s nailed on. The worst part of all this is that we are a complete laughing stock and the Skates are proper laughing at us, we are giving them all the ammo they need with these unwanted records. Who the fuck loses 9-0 twice in a Millennium let alone two seasons!? Who would honestly rule out the possibility of Southampton being relegated after having 29 points in January? I wouldn’t...It would be so fucking ‘Saintsy’ Would be quite ironic, Ralph would go from one of the best managers we have had to the worst in history if that happend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 Just now, Dorchester Saint said: Don’t laugh too hard....we may well be playing them next season. I'll let you think that if you want! Crack on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I'll let you think that if you want! Crack on. Would you seriously bet against it? This is highly plausible, the fish fondlers have a very good shout at being promoted this season, in contrast we have a weak squad of gutless bottlers and a manager who’s biggest achievement so far that’s been collecting embarrassing unwanted records, this squad won’t cope with a relegation scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 15 February, 2021 Share Posted 15 February, 2021 46 minutes ago, Dorchester Saint said: Would you seriously bet against it? This is highly plausible, the fish fondlers have a very good shout at being promoted this season, in contrast we have a weak squad of gutless bottlers and a manager who’s biggest achievement so far that’s been collecting embarrassing unwanted records, this squad won’t cope with a relegation scrap. Yes I would seriously bet against it. The same saints squad who have coped with a relegation scrap twice in the last few seasons. Also the same Pompey team who have pissed away promotion the last few seasons - what a bunch of gutless bottlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 16 February, 2021 Share Posted 16 February, 2021 Would bite their hand off for a draw to get us off 29 points and get something other than a loss on the board. But don’t think that will happen - can see another shafting...4-0 is not unfeasible. Ramsey should be selected at RB otherwise what’s the point, Forster should get the nod now and I want to see Minamino ahead of Redmond. Otherwise the team picks itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 16 February, 2021 Share Posted 16 February, 2021 4 hours ago, Dorchester Saint said: We will undoubtedly lose this game, in fact I’d say it’s nailed on. The worst part of all this is that we are a complete laughing stock and the Skates are proper laughing at us, we are giving them all the ammo they need with these unwanted records. Who the fuck loses 9-0 twice in a Millennium let alone two seasons!? Who? 😂 Seriously had completely forgotten about them. I'm glad they're laughing, at least that gives them something to smile about and an opportunity to forget they are an absolute nothing club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 16 February, 2021 Share Posted 16 February, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Pilchards said: Leeds are free scoring too, shall we go to the one after that? Isn't that Everton away? Maybe the one after that then..... ? More seriously, how many defeats in a row before the noose is finally tightened around Hasenhüttl's neck. Can't be far away. Bet we're casting our net around already to see who's available. Edited 16 February, 2021 by Charlie Wayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 16 February, 2021 Share Posted 16 February, 2021 Hope Giroud doesn't start for them or come on as a sub. He loves scoring against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 16 February, 2021 Share Posted 16 February, 2021 14 hours ago, Baird of the land said: Forster (No matter the opposition he's clearly more confident off the back of a series of cleansheets so perhaps worth a roll of the dice) Stephens Bednarek Vestergaard Bertrand Romeu JWP Armstrong Redmond Adams Ings This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 16 February, 2021 Share Posted 16 February, 2021 1 hour ago, Teddeer said: Hope Giroud doesn't start for them or come on as a sub. He loves scoring against us. He's still a fantastic player, I'd have him here in a heartbeat (I know it's never going to happen) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 16 February, 2021 Share Posted 16 February, 2021 On 15/02/2021 at 00:58, kyle04 said: Given the events of the last 2 months with injuries/VAR/generally being a shit team , "on paper" we have no chance of a positive result, and yes, at the moment we are shit, the only oasis was beating a mid table reserve side in a cup we have no chance of winning. Ralphs style of play has clearly unravelled, the players simply aren't good enough or fit enough to sustain it for anything like 90 minutes lately. The team are mentally weak and lacking in confidence and on-field leadership. We can't hold onto a lead, can't chase a game when a goal behind, and can't defend for our lives when under the cosh. We are losing to shit teams and getting hammered by good ones. 0-3 Chelsea, dodgy penalty and a sending off Why don't you go and support Portsmaouth? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 16 February, 2021 Share Posted 16 February, 2021 Chelsea due a loss ...we are due a win. 2-1.......Ings double. No real logic to my prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 16 February, 2021 Share Posted 16 February, 2021 If KWP is out it's hard to see anything other than a comfortable Chelsea win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 February, 2021 Share Posted 16 February, 2021 3 hours ago, eelpie said: Why don't you go and support Portsmaouth? What's he said that isn't true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 16 February, 2021 Share Posted 16 February, 2021 3 hours ago, eelpie said: Why don't you go and support Portsmaouth? Probably already does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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