Jeremy Corbyn Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I like Armstrong central. Look at the second goal, he drives forward with the ball. OR or Prowse would have just passed it there. Yeah, definitely. I think its horses for courses and you might want more a more defensive player in tougher matches, but you get so much from a CM willing to surge forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Postives - Tella, Salisu, Adams, another win Negatives - Having to read the drivel posted by Saint_Clark on this thread! 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 1 minute ago, nta786 said: MOTM for me is Tella’s smile, how infectious! Came across really well in his post match interview. Just a nice, appreciative, team orientated guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 50 minutes ago, cloggy saint said: And he's absolutely correct. No he isn't. A club that has spent 44 years out of 55 in the top flight is clearly one of the size where being in the league isn't a fluke. Far too big a sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictiAbNonem Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 1 minute ago, nta786 said: MOTM for me is Tella’s smile, how infectious! Seems a really likeable, positive lad. I'm delighted his impressive performances have now got him a very well deserved first goal and assist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, warsash saint said: Postives - Tella, Salisu, Adams, another win Negatives - Having to read the drivel posted by Saint_Clark on this thread! 😂 Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Good win, 43 points looks semi respectful. Che MOTM for me, great link up play, and a goal. Considering how Jan -Mar went for Saints, I'll take a comfortable win like this. Interesting that Saints looked more balanced and stronger, when Minimano was replaced. Like Djenepo he adds very little to the team and frequently loses the ball. Thank you Mr Liverpool but no thanks. Redmond may be way too casual up front, but he does his defensive duties well. I guess that's why he is picked so often. Anyway nice to have turned the corner, bit of hope for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Tella possibly MotM despite only being on for 30 minutes. Salisu looks like a beast. Def want him to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 I'm sure I'm not the one to think that both Redmond and Minamino were awful today. Hopefully next season we'll have some upgrades... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictiAbNonem Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 4 minutes ago, macca155 said: Good win, 43 points looks semi respectful. Che MOTM for me, great link up play, and a goal. Considering how Jan -Mar went for Saints, I'll take a comfortable win like this. Interesting that Saints looked more balanced and stronger, when Minimano was replaced. Like Djenepo he adds very little to the team and frequently loses the ball. Thank you Mr Liverpool but no thanks. Redmond may be way too casual up front, but he does his defensive duties well. I guess that's why he is picked so often. Anyway nice to have turned the corner, bit of hope for next season. Agree on Che MOTM, but it's remarkable how close Tella came to pinching it. If he'd scored the second he so nearly took late on he'd HAVE to have been. After half an hour on the pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 8 minutes ago, mcbendy said: I'm sure I'm not the one to think that both Redmond and Minamino were awful today. Hopefully next season we'll have some upgrades... Minamino try hard lightweight. Redmond, just lightweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 11 minutes ago, SKD said: Watch back; watch Vestergaard get dragged out side following his man, watch Stephens man run straight off Stephens and score. If once you’ve watched back you still think it’s Vestergaard’s fault, then give up watching football as you haven’t a clue. I like Stephens , I think he’s better than a lot make out, but it was clearly his fault. I felt he “guessed” where he thought the ball was going. I’ve noticed Bednarek does this a bit as well. It’s one thing making a mistake at centre half, but you have to learn from them. Neither Jack or Bednarek seem capable of doing so. Unless they start to, they’ll not be playing much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Redmond and Minamino are fecking atrocious. And not just today. they contribute nothing.too lightweight,not quick thinking…..and I don’t want to see either in a saints shirt again. but unfortunately…..looks like Redmond will be a nailed on starter for the unforeseeable future …..and so does Taki,thankfully just another couple of games for him 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Say whatever you like about Stephens, but we are a far better team when he’s in it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I like Stephens , I think he’s better than a lot make out, but it was clearly his fault. I felt he “guessed” where he thought the ball was going. I’ve noticed Bednarek does this a bit as well. It’s one thing making a mistake at centre half, but you have to learn from them. Neither Jack or Bednarek seem capable of doing so. Unless they start to, they’ll not be playing much more. The problem with Stephens is that you can guarantee that he will give at least one or two clear goal opportunities to the opposition per match, even when he has a good game. At this level you can’t afford regular starters to do that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveloyMush Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Say whatever you like about Stephens, but we are a far better team when he’s in it. Absolutely, clearly he gives a shit and is one of the few who really does leave it all on the pitch. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Good day for Saints and Bland big Saints fan winning Masters at Belfry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 8 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I like Stephens , I think he’s better than a lot make out, but it was clearly his fault. I felt he “guessed” where he thought the ball was going. I’ve noticed Bednarek does this a bit as well. It’s one thing making a mistake at centre half, but you have to learn from them. Neither Jack or Bednarek seem capable of doing so. Unless they start to, they’ll not be playing much more. This is going to sound daft, but when stephens is playing well, he’s more than capable. For 99% of today he was playing well. His issue and the same with Bednerak tbh; is that he lacks concentration. Unless he sorts this, he’ll never be good enough at this level. Hopefully, like Fonte, he gets better with age. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 28 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Annoying to lose the clean sheet but it was a quality finish by their kid. Lovely to see Tella get off the mark. Made a real difference when he came on. Thought Redmond was our poorest player today. I dont know whether you are right but someone has to be the worst player like someone has to be the best one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 9 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Say whatever you like about Stephens, but we are a far better team when he’s in it. Yet when we went on our winning run at the start of the season, he wasn’t playing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 9 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: The problem with Stephens is that you can guarantee that he will give at least one or two clear goal opportunities to the opposition per match, even when he has a good game. At this level you can’t afford regular starters to do that. Absolutely. I had to switch over and watch the play off. Absolutely superb!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictiAbNonem Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 1 minute ago, SKD said: This is going to sound daft, but when stephens is playing well, he’s more than capable. For 99% of today he was playing well. His issue and the same with Bednerak tbh; is that he lacks concentration. Unless he sorts this, he’ll never be good enough at this level. Hopefully, like Fonte, he gets better with age. I think he has already got much better with age and experience. There were some jitters on here when he was first brought back in to cover for Bertie, but he's been mostly very solid and put in some absolutely crucial, and occasionally fearless, tackles and blocks in the few games back that have almost certainly saved goals. I think he's earned consideration as an important squad member, and possible contender for a starting spot. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Frustrating that Fulham scored. Ruined potential 'THREE-OH WALCOTT' headlines. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: There's the one big cock up by Stephens I mentioned earlier. Really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveloyMush Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 If no defender ever made a mistake, there wouldn't be many goals! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapel End Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Just now, SaveloyMush said: If no defender ever made a mistake, there wouldn't be many goals! Yeah but Stephens.... or something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictiAbNonem Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 4 minutes ago, SaveloyMush said: If no defender ever made a mistake, there wouldn't be many goals! I still love that stat that Alderweireld didn't make a single defensive error in his season with us. But then get depressed after imagining what might have been if we could have kept him AND got VVD.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 I thought Stephens played well today - some really positive runs and a couple of goal-saving tackles. He gets a lot of stick on here but let's give him credit when credit is due. Felt Ralph was slow to put energy into the side - I would have subbed Redmond and/or Minamino a lot earlier - Fulham were threatening to score for a while before they did. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 59 minutes ago, VictiAbNonem said: There's so much potential there for headlines, and much else! Tella-vision, Tella-graph, Tella-phone, Tella-scope, Tella-kinesis, Tella-portation.. And Tella-vangelists for us worshipping fans Go on, Tella like it is….. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictiAbNonem Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 1 minute ago, Vancouver Saint said: I thought Stephens played well today - some really positive runs and a couple of goal-saving tackles. He gets a lot of stick on here but let's give him credit when credit is due. Felt Ralph was slow to put energy into the side - I would have subbed Redmond and/or Minamino a lot earlier - Fulham were threatening to score for a while before they did. Agree on Stephens entirely. But think Ralph was restricted in his sub option by needing to manage Ings and Armstrong's minutes. Danny's not long back from injury, and Stu runs so hard so well that I think I'd rather get 70-75 minutes of him playing like that than 90 of him conserving energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 35 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: The problem with Stephens is that you can guarantee that he will give at least one or two clear goal opportunities to the opposition per match, even when he has a good game. At this level you can’t afford regular starters to do that. Bednerak alert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 47 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: No he isn't. A club that has spent 44 years out of 55 in the top flight is clearly one of the size where being in the league isn't a fluke. Far too big a sample. Size of club isn't quantified by seasons in the top flight though. Most people would agree size is down to number of fans and stadium capacity, and in that respect he was correct. Some similar size clubs are 2 leagues below us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Pretty straightforward win today, wouldn't expect anything less since Fulham were relegated and left some of their better players out. Adams very good, I liked Tella for his attitude, pace and smile after he scored. Hope he gets a a decent amount of game time in the last 2 to help his development. The 3 cb's all did well and Armstrong and Ward Prowse put in solid performances. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr X said: When was the last clean sheet? Depends if you mean certain SWF members' bed sheets or the team's defence... 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Back to back wins, nice feeling! Fulham were poor but we did what we needed to do and never really got out of second gear ourselves. Tella was a real threat after coming on and lovely moment for him. Aside from their goal Stephens was excellent and I would prefer him starting over Bednarek. With Salisu looking good Jan would be my 4th choice CB now. Hate to pick on Redmond but he really was appalling today and offers us so little. Otherwise a good day at the office. Now only three points short of Puel's total that got us 8th, been a strange old season! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Pretty solid display - but won;t play many worse teams than Fulham. Salisu, Tella, JWP, Adams all excellent. Felt Minamino and Redmond were very poor: both are very slow thinkers and the game is too quick for them. Minamino is just not suited to the PL. Loved Tella's enthusiasm and beaming smile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictiAbNonem Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Haven't seen anyone else do it, so thought I should mention Theo's lovely finish of our best goal today. He gets a lot of (deserved and undeserved) stick, but definitely earned a bit of credit there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 23 minutes ago, Vancouver Saint said: I thought Stephens played well today - some really positive runs and a couple of goal-saving tackles. He gets a lot of stick on here but let's give him credit when credit is due. Felt Ralph was slow to put energy into the side - I would have subbed Redmond and/or Minamino a lot earlier - Fulham were threatening to score for a while before they did. He did play very well, but he still makes one big cock up every single game that leads to a clear opportunity and at this level it invariably gets punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 1 minute ago, VictiAbNonem said: Haven't seen anyone else do it, so thought I should mention Theo's lovely finish of our best goal today. He gets a lot of (deserved and undeserved) stick, but definitely earned a bit of credit there. It wasn't mentioned because it was deflected though, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, The Cat said: Size of club isn't 1) quantified by seasons in the top flight though. Most people would agree size is down to 1) number of fans and 2) stadium capacity, and in that respect he was correct. 3) Some similar size clubs are 2 leagues below us. 1) If the sample size was small... like Bournemouth's 5 seasons, then you would have a point. But 44 of the last 55 years for Saints in the top flight is a colossal sample size. You can't fluke your way to 44 of the last 55 years in the top flight by not being a club of a decent size. 2) We've averaged circa 30,000 every Premier League season at St Mary's 3) Regarding stadium capacity... St Mary's is the 17th biggest club ground in England, so it is in the top 20 4) A similar sized club being 2 leagues below doesn't mean you should be below your current level. That is a flawed point. Edited 15 May, 2021 by Matthew Le God 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictiAbNonem Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 12 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: It wasn't mentioned because it was deflected though, right? I've watched it again a few times on Sky highlights and I'm not sure the deflection's significant. Maybe it did help him, but he still took the chance really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Poor game management at 2-0. Instead of bossing the game we suddenly let Fulham in behind us four times in a row - they finally scored on the fourth occasion. Midfield stopped pressing and the defensive line didn't adapt. A bit like Spurs at the start of the season. Fortunately the goal woke us back up again and we got on the front foot and went after the third - which we should've been doing all along. Nice moment for Tella and you could see the confidence boost it gave to his whole game. Needs more minutes. Back to back wins. Heady days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 15 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: 1) If the sample size was small... like Bournemouth's 5 seasons, then you would have a point. But 44 of the last 55 years for Saints in the top flight is a colossal sample size. You can't fluke your way to 44 of the last 55 years in the top flight by not being a club of a decent size. 2) We've averaged circa 30,000 every Premier League season at St Mary's 3) Regarding stadium capacity... St Mary's is the 17th biggest club ground in England, so it is in the top 20 4) A similar sized club being 2 leagues below doesn't mean you should be below your current level. That is a flawed point. What are you on about? We've achieved top flight status for ten years because of Lawrie McMenemy and Chris Nicholl keeping us in the top flight in the 1980s? That's your argument? For a club our size, to stay in the Premier League is an achievement. The commentator is quite correct. Newcastle and Villa have been down, Bolton, Sunderland have fallen far, Derby, Forest and many others can't get close. Tell us about the eleven semi finals again..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 18 minutes ago, VictiAbNonem said: I've watched it again a few times on Sky highlights and I'm not sure the deflection's significant. Maybe it did help him, but he still took the chance really well. Have to watch it again but looked to me his original shot was just going along the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 1 hour ago, mcbendy said: I'm sure I'm not the one to think that both Redmond and Minamino were awful today. Hopefully next season we'll have some upgrades... It was like playing with 9 men at times, luckily Fulham were poor and others stepped up and put in good performances. One more win needed to equal Claude Puels points total of 2017, will be good to hit that landmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 More than happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictiAbNonem Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Have to watch it again but looked to me his original shot was just going along the ground. It's annoying on the highlights; it's the last thing they show and one of their graphics moves in the way of what seems to be the best view in the last seconds of the third angle replay.. From the live view I can't see a massive deflection. And have been reminded from my repeated reviews that Theo made a very nice little flick on to Adams to create the attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 9 minutes ago, CB Fry said: What are you on about? We've achieved top flight status for ten years because of Lawrie McMenemy and Chris Nicholl keeping us in the top flight in the 1980s? That's your argument? For a club our size, to stay in the Premier League is an achievement. The commentator is quite correct. Newcastle and Villa have been down, Bolton, Sunderland have fallen far, Derby, Forest and many others can't get close. Tell us about the eleven semi finals again..... Nope, you clearly haven't understood any of it and twisted what I said into something else entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 Seeing how poor Chelsea have been in this cup final, can't help thinking if only..... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 May, 2021 Share Posted 15 May, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Nope, you clearly haven't understood any of it and twisted what I said into something else entirely. Your 44 out of 55 years shite us utterly irrelevant bollocks. I am glad you accept that now. Forest have won European Cup twice. Villa, Ipswich have won European trophies. Derby have won the league. Anyway, its boring: the point is the idea that we "have done well for a club of their size to be in the top league for the last 10 years" is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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