tisspahars Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 .....I guess we'll find out if it really was all his fault soon enough.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 We’re saved! FA Cup and top 7 here we come!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Bad back apparently - lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 new Wales manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 He should go see the same Dr that fixed wee Gordon’s knee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 All our worries are over apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 He'll be at Leicester next season probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 I saw this mentioned a few days ago. I think Allsorts posted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 "....popular with the players and staff..." What are we to think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Imagine if he isn't the problem and this makes us worse (!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 new Wales manager Well people have been saying he’s Championship level at best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Thank god he's gone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Les Reed, vice chairman (football) is still around then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Right, so now Redmond will start slaughtering full backs, Stevie D will get ten goals a season, Cedric will learn how to cross and shoot and Forster will save more than he lets in. Result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Hopefully a sign that bigger are changes ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Hopefully a sign that bigger are changes ahead. A change of league is most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Certainly a **** and ball excuse to leave mid-season. Clearly that’s not the real reason for his departure. Maybe Les will take a hands-on roll. They do XXL tracksuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Hmmm. The 'popular with players and staff' line is always going to be said. Doubt we'd ever see a statement saying 'xxxx was viewed as a total knob by all at the club'. His record is terrible though and surely we can do better? *Conspiracy Theories Switched On!* - I wonder if the club noticed the fans view of him and this is some kind vague way to address the general discontent about MP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 And it's the day after the Gao board meeting. Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Hmmm. The 'popular with players and staff' line is always going to be said. Doubt we'd ever see a statement saying 'xxxx was viewed as a total knob by all at the club'. His record is terrible though and surely we can do better? *Conspiracy Theories Switched On!* - I wonder if the club noticed the fans view of him and this is some kind vague way to address the general discontent about MP? It would be quite easy to put out a suitable statement without saying he was popular. It just happens to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 "....popular with the players and staff..." What are we to think? I have no evidence to confirm this of course, but perhaps the reason he was popular with the players was that he didn't push them overly hard in training??? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 I have no evidence to confirm this of course, but perhaps the reason he was popular with the players was that he didn't push them overly hard in training??? Just a thought. Similar situation with Bilic and WHU apparently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon3737 Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 And it's the day after the Gao board meeting. Coincidence? What Mr Gao doesn’t know about the attributes of Premier League Senior First Team Coaches isn’t worth knowing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 There's no evidence that Black was a part of the problem with Saints form but he's one major common factor from last season to this. That and his awful reputation at Villa are simply circumstantial, if not damning, evidence for the prosecution. I guess the coming months might offer another clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 My sisters boyfriend is an ex professional footballer- played against saints the lucky b*stard- and I found his insights really interesting. According to him, the best coaches and managers are the ones who can have a laugh and a joke, let everyone go out and have a drink but who you know that if you go too far will crucify you. Apparently him and some of his team mates got involved in a fight in a club in the early hours. The manager came out strongly and condemned them whilst behind closed doors his only concern was that they were stupid enough to do it in public and he wanted to make sure that they all backed each other up. He reckons the authoritarian managers and coaches had little chance of success because the players wouldn't play for them. Would be interesting to know Black's style in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon3737 Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Doubt we'd ever see a statement saying 'xxxx was viewed as a total knob by all at the club'. Actually... http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/5564048.Wadsworth_was_the_real_reason/?ref=arc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 And it's the day after the Gao board meeting. Coincidence? Not if, as previously suggested, he left weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 It would be quite easy to put out a suitable statement without saying he was popular. It just happens to be true. Well from what I've been told, by people in the game (outside of saints), he's certainly not a 'fine coach'. As for the players liking him, (from what I've been told) I know a certain ex captain didn't get on all that well with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jude Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 We’ll find out now.. if the players were really ‘over-coached’..be interesting to see who they bring in. If he was so good.. and the condition wasn’t ‘serious’.. why is he not just taking a break and coming back to Saints when it’s fixed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Just need Leslie to "resign" now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Not if, as previously suggested, he left weeks ago. But that can't be true, as our form and performances were all his fault and they haven't improved in recent weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Hallelujah! praise the lord! guaranteed 3-0 win for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 What a load of ****e. If he was that good a coach we would keep his job open while he had his 'back issues' sorted. This is a 'left by mutual consent with a signed NDA' if ever there was one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 So he's left because he's spineless - has no backbone. It's what I suspected all along, taking into account his record of failure at other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Paul Clement coming? Stranger things have happened..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 "....popular with the players and staff..." What are we to think? So was Steve Wrigley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 (edited) I don't know why, but it feels like a good thing. Was a bit strange he stayed after the previous regime went. Edited 21 December, 2017 by BotleySaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 So he's left because he's spineless - has no backbone. It's what I suspected all along, taking into account his record of failure at other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Black and Hoett has a punch up during half time in the Bournemouth game perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Black and Hoett has a punch up during half time in the Bournemouth game perhaps? Is that an ITK statement dressed up as a question....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Paul Clement coming? Stranger things have happened..... Well, he was apparently popular with his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Black is not the cause of our decline, far from it and from what I am told the players never had a problem with him. You have to look higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Certainly a **** and ball excuse to leave mid-season. Clearly that’s not the real reason for his departure. Maybe Les will take a hands-on roll. They do XXL tracksuits.What do you think the real reason is then? Why does a football club need to fabricate a story for the departure of a managerial assistant? It's not that important to lie about is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Black is not the cause of our decline, far from it and from what I am told the players never had a problem with him. You have to look higher Wonder if we are about to see a last shuffle of the pack from Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 I'm yet to see any good evidence from those that wanted Eric Black out of the club that he was a negative impact on the squad. We simply don't know and it is jumping to conclusions to say you do know. If anything his influence this season decreased, as he was demoted from assistant manager under Puel to 1st team coach under Pellegrino. Seems some people just want to find scapegoats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 I'm yet to see any good evidence from those that wanted Eric Black out of the club that he was a negative impact on the squad. We simply don't know and it is jumping to conclusions to say you do know. If anything his influence this season decreased, as he was demoted from assistant manager under Puel to 1st team coach under Pellegrino. Seems some people just want to find scapegoats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 His record is appalling Celtic with John Barnes Black was assistant manager to Steve Kean at Blackburn Rovers - Blackburn relegated He then went to Blackpool to support Barry Ferguson - Blackpool won only three of their twenty games Next he goes to Wigan (July 2014) - Wigan relegated to league 1 Next up was Rotherham - Black was named as first team coach of Championship side Rotherham United (July 15) - They won just 6 of the 30 games he was there and were rock bottom. He left and Rotherham appointed Neil Warnock - the final 13 games Rotherham went W6, D5 L2 and stayed up. Next was Villa - first team coach and then temp manager. Villa relegated SFC next and its been decline, decline, decline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Has Sammy Lee got a job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Has Sammy Lee got a job? Yeah Ironically working as assistant at Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 21 December, 2017 Share Posted 21 December, 2017 Who are the the tin foil hat wearers going to blame now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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