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Just now, The Cat said:

Liverpool haven't won at home since beating Spurs 2-1 with a 90th minute winner on 16th December.

Since then played 7, drawn 2 lost 5.

 

Didn’t they go something 3 years without losing at Anfield before that?

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21 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Dear god. How do you explain Jamie Carraghar, a die hard biased Liverpudlian saying he didn’t think it was a pen? 
 

Here’s what happened, the referee in our game thought it was a pen, and a different referee, refereeing a different game, didn’t think a different incident was a pen. In both cases another referee reviewed it, and didn’t think there was an error. It’s not cheating or a conspiracy, it’s an opinion. 

Dear god, my point is that opinions shouldn’t be that different. Surely these fuck-wits meet up and discuss what should and shouldn’t be a pen with the aim of achieving some sort of consistency. I agree with Carraghar but it if that wasn’t a pen there is no logical reason why Bertrand’s was.

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49 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Dear god. How do you explain Jamie Carraghar, a die hard biased Liverpudlian saying he didn’t think it was a pen? 
 

Here’s what happened, the referee in our game thought it was a pen, and a different referee, refereeing a different game, didn’t think a different incident was a pen. In both cases another referee reviewed it, and didn’t think there was an error. It’s not cheating or a conspiracy, it’s an opinion. 

So there's no rules to follow, it's just an opinion. Great. 

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Dear god. How do you explain Jamie Carraghar, a die hard biased Liverpudlian saying he didn’t think it was a pen? 
 

Here’s what happened, the referee in our game thought it was a pen, and a different referee, refereeing a different game, didn’t think a different incident was a pen. In both cases another referee reviewed it, and didn’t think there was an error. It’s not cheating or a conspiracy, it’s an opinion. 

Finally somebody gets it!

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Liverpool lose again. Hurrah!!!  Did Tuchal drop to the floor in tears?

Interestingly, Liverpool will not be 'dominating for years' as predicted by far too many scouse cheer leaders a year ago.  It will be like their title was a bit of a blip, no real celebrations or anything. Marvellous :-)

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10 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

What do you want officials to do, refer back to the Ryan Bertrand handball and then judge subsequent ones against that. To have consistency, you have to have defending handballs ruled the same as attacking handballs, that is, hits hand it’s a handball. We had one like that earlier against Fulham , and we had more moaning and fucking groaning on social media  about that. Referees have always been inconsistent as they’re different people, who see things differently. 
 

You do realise VAR stands for video assistant referee, therefore nobody is “using it”? As referee we were told that you cannot expect consistency from one game to another but you should expect it within any one game. Not that it worked like that with Bertrand/Dendoncker.

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14 hours ago, Jonnyboy said:

So there's no rules to follow, it's just an opinion. Great. 

Are you really this dim, or is it an act. 
 

It’s the referees opinion whether it’s handball or not. Just as it’s the referees opinion whether a attempted tackle is a foul. 
 

The alternative is that every time the ball hits a players arm it’s handball, regardless of whether it was intended or accidental (like they do with legs in hockey). Once you take into account position of arm, closeness to player or whether there was a deflection, it then becomes the referees opinion. And unbelievably, different people will have different opinions.

It’s really not hard to understand, I’m surprised you’re struggling with it. 

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31 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Are you really this dim, or is it an act. 
 

It’s the referees opinion whether it’s handball or not. Just as it’s the referees opinion whether a attempted tackle is a foul. 
 

The alternative is that every time the ball hits a players arm it’s handball, regardless of whether it was intended or accidental (like they do with legs in hockey). Once you take into account position of arm, closeness to player or whether there was a deflection, it then becomes the referees opinion. And unbelievably, different people will have different opinions.

It’s really not hard to understand, I’m surprised you’re struggling with it. 

Dear god, we all know referees have different opinions, the issue is the lack of consistency between the opinions you bell-end.

When it was just one ref making the call, usually a middle-aged man catching a glimpse whilst desperately trying to keep up with play, you can forgive massive differences in their decisions. When they ref has replays from multiple angles at his disposal there is little excuse for such a difference in their calls.

The facts are that Bertrand and Kante were similar distances away, Kante’s hand was higher and making himself bigger than Bertrand was, Kante was looking at the ball and Bertrand was not, the ball was moving faster when it hit Bertrand. Those are all facts, not opinions.

If you are happy with the inconsistencies between those two decisions then you have really low standards.

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16 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Dear god, we all know referees have different opinions, the issue is the lack of consistency between the opinions you bell-end.

When it was just one ref making the call, usually a middle-aged man catching a glimpse whilst desperately trying to keep up with play, you can forgive massive differences in their decisions. When they ref has replays from multiple angles at his disposal there is little excuse for such a difference in their calls.

The facts are that Bertrand and Kante were similar distances away, Kante’s hand was higher and making himself bigger than Bertrand was, Kante was looking at the ball and Bertrand was not, the ball was moving faster when it hit Bertrand. Those are all facts, not opinions.

If you are happy with the inconsistencies between those two decisions then you have really low standards.

The Bertrand decision was wrong. That’s all you need to know.

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4 hours ago, aintforever said:

No such thing as right or wrong, it's just opinion apparently.


Every subjective decision is an opinion. 

This was the explanation given. 

“The referee Graham Scott gave a penalty on the field believing the Southampton defender’s arm was raised in an unnatural position and blocked a shot at goal, with the VAR deeming the decision not a clear error.”

Stop crying about it, & man up. 

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20 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:


Every subjective decision is an opinion. 

This was the explanation given. 

“The referee Graham Scott gave a penalty on the field believing the Southampton defender’s arm was raised in an unnatural position and blocked a shot at goal, with the VAR deeming the decision not a clear error.”

Stop crying about it, & man up. 

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Because Kante’s Jazzhands is a natural position. :lol:

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6 minutes ago, aintforever said:

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Because Kante’s Jazzhands is a natural position. :lol:


A referee in our game thought Bertrand’s hands were in an unnatural position. Another referee in a different game thought Kante was so close to the player crossing the ball that he didn’t think it was handball. Two different referees, two different games, two different outcomes, given for two different reasons, one halfwit. 
 

This Ryan Bertrand incident has clearly got to you, maybe you should write to the FA and ask them to implement “Ryan’s law” . VAR’s are to watch this horrendous miscarriage of justice and judge any subsequent handball on that basis. 

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2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:


A referee in our game thought Bertrand’s hands were in an unnatural position. Another referee in a different game thought Kante was so close to the player crossing the ball that he didn’t think it was handball. Two different referees, two different games, two different outcomes, given for two different reasons, one halfwit. 
 

This Ryan Bertrand incident has clearly got to you, maybe you should write to the FA and ask them to implement “Ryan’s law” . VAR’s are to watch this horrendous miscarriage of justice and judge any subsequent handball on that basis. 

Wow, you really have trouble admitting you are wrong don’t you? By your rationale no decision can ever be wrong because all refs have their own opinion. There are some clear and obvious inconsistencies which just shouldn’t happen now that we have VAR, anyone with half a brain can see that.

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1 hour ago, aintforever said:

Wow, you really have trouble admitting you are wrong don’t you? By your rationale no decision can ever be wrong because all refs have their own opinion. There are some clear and obvious inconsistencies which just shouldn’t happen now that we have VAR, anyone with half a brain can see that.

He's so over opinionated it's no wonder he's on here defending "opinions." 

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6 hours ago, Chris cooper said:

This forum should all meet for a drink before a saints game when we are all aloud back into stadiums and pubs ..no more keyboard wars over current saints affairs .. just full on face to face brass balls debates .. I wonder how many would show up .. 😁

That's a very polite way of saying "do you want to meet up outside of the forum and discuss this face to face mush." 

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3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Good news this, really could do with Fulham staying up; Lemina is on 19 league games, one more and they’d have to buy him.

 

Just now, Turkish said:

It’s a good job we did win today, Fulham banker tomorrow and a big game between Newcastle and WBA

Brighton's next 2 games are Saints & Newcastle.

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4 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Massive game for Newcastle tomorrow away to WBA then away to Brighton on 20th. 
They are Fulham’s best chance I reckon.

Interesting to see how they get on without Wilson / Saint-Maximin / Almiron up top.

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14 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s a good job we did win today, Fulham banker tomorrow and a big game between Newcastle and WBA

Have just looked at Fulhams remaining games and their run in is brutal,  I really can't see them getting more than 10 points between now and the end of the season (that's having them down to beat us as well).  West Broms last games are slightly easier but only marginally so.  I don't think there's enough winnable games for either to survive.  Gonna be a low bar this year. 

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5 minutes ago, Micky said:

Have just looked at Fulhams remaining games and their run in is brutal,  I really can't see them getting more than 10 points between now and the end of the season (that's having them down to beat us as well).  West Broms last games are slightly easier but only marginally so.  I don't think there's enough winnable games for either to survive.  Gonna be a low bar this year. 

Would be a great last day If Fulham go into the Newcastle game with winner staying up, especially as everything else will be decided weeks before.

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12 minutes ago, Saint_Tony said:

expecting another big Fulham win today to continue their great run of 2 wins in 17 league games. 

I wish we were Fulham I wish we were Fulham I wish we were Fulham I wish we were Fulham I wish

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22 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

EL JURASSICO: West Bromwich Albion vs Newcastle United - 07/03/2021, 12:00pm LIVE on Amazon Prime

t-rex fight GIF by Aardman Animations

Former Newcastle boss Sam Allardyce claims 'it's not looking great' for Bruce amid Pochettino links - Chronicle Live

The above Period in the picture was actually the Triassic period not the Jurassic ... now go eat a roast dinner and kick back and have a drink ..maybe a few of us on here should meet up before a game wen we can ? 
Or do you just like to jizz over your keyboard on match days .. definitely bullied at school .. 100 percent !..

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1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

I still think Brighton will be ok, I reckon it's down to Newcastle and Fulham, with Fulham inevitably dropping in the end. Will prob come down to the last game or two.

Oh dunno, Brighton’s run in is no better than Fulham or Newcastle and although Newcastle’s run in is not pretty, they do have Sheffield Utd at home which some of their better players should be fit again for. 

Brighton are playing one good half but not scoring any more than one goal and prone to at least one defensive lapse per game. Last night was a summary of their season. That said, their win on Tyneside may prove crucial early season. The game at St Mary’s is one they need to get something from.

My money would still be on Fulham dropping, unfortunately for Saints as the Lemina fee and wages would be very helpful. 

WBA last chance saloon in a minute. Can’t see them getting enough points but this is must win even for a slim chance. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Chris cooper said:

The above Period in the picture was actually the Triassic period not the Jurassic

It is a fictional animation of two types of dinosaurs fighting when they wouldn't have, not a geological time period. The animation is a reference to them being dinosaurs of football.

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