OttawaSaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Poor one by his standards. Gah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 I wonder that with Ralph watching on TV with hopefully lots of different angles available to him will actually make subs early in this game rather than in injury time like at Fulham. Dnejepo for sure needs to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Just now, Monk said: How the f*** do you upload a photo on here? I'm adamant Adams is onside. You can copy and paste it into your post. I'm with you. It looked much closer when you look at the FB on the far side, and there was no forensic VAR examination of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Just now, USaint said: I wonder that with Ralph watching on TV with hopefully lots of different angles available to him will actually make subs early in this game rather than in injury time like at Fulham. Dnejepo for sure needs to be replaced. Djenepo for who though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 I think we need tweaks not subs for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 (edited) Over 4.5 hours now since we scored a goal (that var hasn’t disallowed). Edited 29 December, 2020 by OttawaSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Really really poor from us in that half. They had the two best chances. Djenepo just isn't up to PL standard imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Just now, nta786 said: Djenepo for who though? It's not Djenepo that's the problem. It's the fact that his FB distrusts him so much that he won't pass the ball to him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Pretty dreadful to be honest. We shaded it, in whatever way you can shade such a dreadful game of football. Absolutely terrible to watch, No flow, no intensity, no quality. Moussa is once again a total passenger. After 2 years he now needs to be showing what he can do, he's on the brink imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 December, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 December, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Monk said: How the f*** do you upload a photo on here? I'm adamant Adams is onside. Adam's foot looks like it is just ONSIDE but I think his upper arm is probably further forward than their No.24's foot, but given how close it is why on Earth wasn't there the usual VAR forensics? Edited 29 December, 2020 by trousers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Bright start but gone flat after that. If anything they looked more dangerous afterwards. Walcott the one looking like he might do something for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Not quite clicking for us some nearly moments though, I fear West ham will know how to manage the second half and their physical strength may show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Walcott has given us most of the threat so far. Need to continue to exploit his and walker peters pace down the right hand side. Left hand side is looking weaker, but what I can't work out is whether the cause is djenepo or betrand (everyone who plays in front of Bertie at the moment seems to play shit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Missing Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 5 minutes ago, Monk said: How the f*** do you upload a photo on here? I'm adamant Adams is onside. I thought their RB was keeping him inside tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said: It's not Djenepo that's the problem. It's the fact that his FB distrusts him so much that he won't pass the ball to him. Bertie is definitely our weakest starter at the moment. He rarely gets deep on the overlap to cross, he gets done by opposing wingers, gets caught ball watching and as you said, totally ignores the wide man in front of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 2 minutes ago, trousers said: I think Adam's upper arm is probably further forward than their No.24's foot, but given how close it is why on Earth wasn't there the usual VAR forensics? He looks at least a players width offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Just now, Toadhall Saint said: I thought their RB was keeping him inside tbh Nowhere near, Adams is leaning much further forward and he can score with his head so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Just now, OttawaSaint said: Over 3 hours now since we scored a goal (that var hasn’t disallowed). 3 celebrations in a row I've had to neutralise halfway through. Could do with a good cheer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 2 minutes ago, trousers said: I think Adam's upper arm is probably further forward than their No.24's foot, but given how close it is why on Earth wasn't there the usual VAR forensics? Impossible to tell from that, but on TV it looked like his leaning in made him offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Good first ten minutes when we drove at them but then settled into playing it backwards more than forward. Need to be getting on the half turn instead of repeatedly going backwards. Djenepo needs to get himself more involved and look for space as he is too static. Either get it forward quicker and give them problems or we will run the risk of losing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydney_saint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 I love our 4 2 2 2. Anything that gives us a clear identity and style of play. But feel today we are crying out for someone to float centrally in a cam position. So much space there and when one of ings or che drops into it we look better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Poor. Giving away West Ham too many set piece opportunities - playing to their strengths. We look shaky every ball that comes the into the box. Just aimless with the ball. No idea what the plan is to create chances when we have good possession. Once again, a desperate lack of quality in the final third. Walcott looks likeliest to make something happen, but I wouldn't bank on it. 0-1 incoming. Header from a set piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 1 minute ago, OttawaSaint said: Bertie is definitely our weakest starter at the moment. He rarely gets deep on the overlap to cross, he gets done by opposing wingers, gets caught ball watching and as you said, totally ignores the wide man in front of him. I think he is the problem too. When Walcott comes narrow to pick up a pass then KWP gets outside and creates and option. When djenepo gets narrow nobody helps him so he’s forced backwards or cross field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 It feels like the goals have dried up for us but we're not playing badly, just horrible West Ham are stopping us play. Ings 'goal' definitely needed a proper review, I suspect if the lino hadn't raised his flag we'd have seen a 2 minute VAR stoppage. 3 points and a nice finish to a good year would be great tonight so I hope we can step up and get them. But West Ham have quality on the bench. I hate playing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicBoom Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 I agree. Bertie seems really lazy and shows no real ambition to get forward. They give him the ball from CB and he just passes it straight back, and stands still. He used to bust a gut to get forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 All a bit disjointed from Saints. Not looking for a forward pass enough times, probably because Adams is having one of those games. Good job St Mary's is empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 The left hand side need to buck up. Poor, particularly Djenepo, who is starting to get on my tits. Time to deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 December, 2020 Author Share Posted 29 December, 2020 3 minutes ago, egg said: Impossible to tell from that, but on TV it looked like his leaning in made him offside. Yeah, the TV camera angle will make Adams seem further forward than he is (relative to the defender on this side of the field) but I think his upper body is just offside. But I'm still bemused as to how VAR took 5 seconds to reach a conclusion compared to the usual 60 seconds or more. Hey ho. Can't do anything about it now so won't dwell on it any longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Nowhere near, Adams is leaning much further forward and he can score with his head so... I think the rule should be each players' leading foot on the turf that determines whether it is offside or not, the lines can be drawn on the flat surface and represents where they are rooted at the point in time of the pass being played. Bits of torso or arms leaning forward at an angle is less objective. Edited 29 December, 2020 by adrian lord 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Home grown VAR :- I think Che's shoulder is just offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 That West Brom own goal 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 I think its crap the the arms, etc. matter on offsides. It should be completely by the feet position 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 1 minute ago, SonicBoom said: I agree. Bertie seems really lazy and shows no real ambition to get forward. They give him the ball from CB and he just passes it straight back, and stands still. He used to bust a gut to get forward. Trouble is his legs will not let him to push forward and run at younger fast wing backs...if he did we’d likely be undone by the counter. What this amounts to is an unbalanced team and our forward attacking play very, very stale and predictable. We need to exploit the central areas and that’s most likely going to happen with Ings and Theo driving forward into the box. Knocking it out wide every single time is just too damned easy for WetSham to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 (edited) Actually envy you guys on Amazon & listerning to Clinton Morrision .... I am having to put up with the c*ck Tim Sherwood on the stream!!! Edited 29 December, 2020 by warsash saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 1 minute ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Trouble is his legs will not let him to push forward and run at younger fast wing backs...if he did we’d likely be undone by the counter. What this amounts to is an unbalanced team and our forward attacking play very, very stale and predictable. We need to exploit the central areas and that’s most likely going to happen with Ings and Theo driving forward into the box. Knocking it out wide every single time is just too damned easy for WetSham to defend. If that indeed is the case, then a LB starter is a priority in January. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 The ball down the line to Theo from KWP then was the kind of thing that Bertrand needs to be doing for Djenepo on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 1 minute ago, warsash saint said: Actually envy you guys on Amazon & listerning to Clinton Morrision .... I am having to put up with the c*ck Sherwood on the stream!!! Morrison just said 'Zoom is the new 'fing'. Thanks Clinton. Can't beat that kind of incisive viewpoint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Living dangerously here. 3-4 mistakes to start the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Jesus we need to wake up! West ham where all over us then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 1 minute ago, DT said: Morrison just said 'Zoom is the new 'fing'. Thanks Clinton. Can't beat that kind of incisive viewpoint Since Covid an' all that. Wonder how much he's getting paid for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Disaster waiting to happen at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 We have let them right back in it, West ham on top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Fuck Djenepo get it under control! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Djnepo really needs to be taken off, how many more chances, id rather kept boufal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 DJenepo crap today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Just now, danjosaint said: Djnepo really needs to be taken off, how many more chances, id rather kept boufal Armstrong please, 60 minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 40 minutes ago, Viking Saint said: www.hesgoal.com Legend! Thanks Viking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Dejenepo given ball away so many times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 29 December, 2020 Share Posted 29 December, 2020 Moussa’s just fucked up our best 2 moves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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