TWar Posted 12 January, 2022 Share Posted 12 January, 2022 13 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said: One of, it not the best central midfielder outside the 'big six' for me. Perhaps pipped to it by Rice but his contribution is enormous. Yeah Rice, Ndidi, Bissouma and JWP are probably the top mids in the league outside the big 6 (and are better than what united and spurs have, as well as Arsenal minus Partey) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAH61 Posted 12 January, 2022 Share Posted 12 January, 2022 (edited) The longer the season goes on the better he gets and that was the ultimate all round midfield display from him and he must be in the top few English CMs right now.His fitness levels are unbelievable and he does more running at the end of a match than anyone. I don't think anybody will be asking the question of "what if Newcastle come in with a big offer?" now. Edited 12 January, 2022 by CAH61 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 January, 2022 Share Posted 12 January, 2022 2 hours ago, badgerx16 said: James Ward Prowse turning up for training In a Wolves kit ? Crook will be all over this as his new exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintquin Posted 12 January, 2022 Share Posted 12 January, 2022 7 hours ago, TWar said: Yeah Rice, Ndidi, Bissouma and JWP are probably the top mids in the league outside the big 6 (and are better than what united and spurs have, as well as Arsenal minus Partey) You forgot Phillips. I'm sure I've seen people on here saying he's better than Prowsey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 12 January, 2022 Share Posted 12 January, 2022 7 minutes ago, saintquin said: You forgot Phillips. I'm sure I've seen people on here saying he's better than Prowsey! Imo Phillips is a bit overrated. The likes of him, Neves, Allan, Hojbjerg, and Moutinho are the tier below the ones listed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddeer Posted 12 January, 2022 Share Posted 12 January, 2022 1 hour ago, TWar said: Imo Phillips is a bit overrated. The likes of him, Neves, Allan, Hojbjerg, and Moutinho are the tier below the ones listed. Hojbjerg is several leagues below as Spurs fans are finding out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 January, 2022 Share Posted 12 January, 2022 Prowsey ?.... I'm searching my thesaurus for a few more superlatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 12 January, 2022 Share Posted 12 January, 2022 50 minutes ago, Teddeer said: Hojbjerg is several leagues below as Spurs fans are finding out. Yeah, maybe a bit generous on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 12 January, 2022 Share Posted 12 January, 2022 2 hours ago, TWar said: Imo Phillips is a bit overrated. The likes of him, Neves, Allan, Hojbjerg, and Moutinho are the tier below the ones listed. Not sure about Neves. He is top drawer in my opinion. Same as Tielmans at Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 12 January, 2022 Share Posted 12 January, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Not sure about Neves. He is top drawer in my opinion. Same as Tielmans at Leicester. I think Neves has dipped in form a bit of late. Telemanns is top draw, agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 January, 2022 Share Posted 12 January, 2022 2 hours ago, TWar said: Imo Phillips is a bit overrated. The likes of him, Neves, Allan, Hojbjerg, and Moutinho are the tier below the ones listed. Bit harsh. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 13 January, 2022 Share Posted 13 January, 2022 On 08/01/2022 at 23:08, TWar said: JWP is class, always has been since Ralph came in despite what some on here might claim as he isn't manly enough I said to my son-in-law at the Brentford game, that I don't understand the way that JWP is dismissed or underrated by some on here. He is not flashy, but he is a superb player. If he was playing for another team, people here would be heaping praise on him and wishing he played for us.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Absolutely incredible goal. To get that power and flight from a dead ball, tremendous strike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 It was outrageous. Reminded me of this one from Roberto Carlos - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Fucking shit son in law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 I've just seen the highlights and holy f**king beans on toast, that was a goal. If he gets any better we'll have to get him taking our goal kicks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 What I love about that free kick was every keeper moves to his right knowing that’s where he’s putting the bend. The Wolves keeper starting to go that way and was flat footed as JWP took it to the other corner. Surely now James will mix the two options to give him a better chance. Stunning and come on Southgate don’t be a twat and leave him out the 11. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Amazing considering how "bang on average" he is to some on here... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Is there or has there been a better free kick taker in world football? I’m not sure there is, every single one is on the money. Almost as good as a penalty to us. Beckham is the only one who comes close, but to be honest, I think JWP is better than him. todays was a complete joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeather Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 JWP is a great free kick taker, probably in the top 2 in the World right now, but still a way to go to be considered greatest of all time. Beckham is still ahead right now, and the best ever , I think, is probably Juninho Pernambucano who scored over 70 direct free kicks in his career (JWP is on 12 in the league, and a handful more from cup games) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Does anyone have a comparison of conversion rate for him and Beckham? JWP’s conversion rate feels like it’s unbelievable, we hardly get any free kicks in shooting positions and yet whenever we do, it’s a goal. I’m sure Beckham would’ve had many more opportunities from shooting positions, given the team he played for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Very reminiscent of the freekick Ronaldo scored V Pompey, same kind of swerve away from the centre of the goal, but I bet it doesn't get played as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 I have no idea what he did but that ball had almost zero spin on it. He didn’t quite catch his earlier free kick - the shot that nobody was expecting. If he had we’d have been talking about two absolute stunners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Deflected? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 It was a knuckle ball. Read he was having fun in training this week and learnt a few new tricks. I thought I would give it a go and luckily it went in, If he’s the second best FK taker in the world please tell me who’s currently no 1? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CylonKing Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 46 minutes ago, jawillwill said: Deflected? To be fair, when I first saw it on the highlights, that is what I thought. But then you realise it's not been deflected, just a very good free kick. Better than MLT? Has JWP missed a penalty yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 5 minutes ago, CylonKing said: To be fair, when I first saw it on the highlights, that is what I thought. But then you realise it's not been deflected, just a very good free kick. Better than MLT? Has JWP missed a penalty yet? He missed one playing for England (although did put in the rebound). He's missed one or two for Saints too. He's a bit 1 dimensional with penalties: they all seem to go for the goalkeeper's right hand corner (although usually very well struck). Direct free kicks: world class, best in the world surely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 37 minutes ago, CylonKing said: To be fair, when I first saw it on the highlights, that is what I thought. But then you realise it's not been deflected, just a very good free kick. Better than MLT? Has JWP missed a penalty yet? He's missed plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 Phenomenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 15 January, 2022 Share Posted 15 January, 2022 1 hour ago, Dark Munster said: He missed one playing for England (although did put in the rebound). He's missed one or two for Saints too. He's a bit 1 dimensional with penalties: they all seem to go for the goalkeeper's right hand corner (although usually very well struck). Direct free kicks: world class, best in the world surely. I also though his free kicks were one dimensional too as they always go to the keepers right. That free kick surprised me just as it did the wolves keeper. If you watch closely he takes a step to the right fully expecting to go and jump in ward prowse s usual corner. That free kick is incredible 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CylonKing Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 1 hour ago, Saints foreva said: He's missed plenty. We went through a phase of missing loads and couldn't remember if JWP was a culprit or not. Think he may have improved somewhat! We have been blessed (as has been mentioned many times over the years) with MLT, Beattie and SRL for our penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmysaint7 Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 8 hours ago, CylonKing said: To be fair, when I first saw it on the highlights, that is what I thought. But then you realise it's not been deflected, just a very good free kick. Better than MLT? Has JWP missed a penalty yet? Yes vs arsenal but scored the rebound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 As said on the Match thread. Had player from the top 3 (+United) had scored that, there would be wall-to-wall faffing over it. They would also get voted SPOTY and hailed as the next England captain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 9 hours ago, Dark Munster said: He missed one playing for England (although did put in the rebound). He's missed one or two for Saints too. He's a bit 1 dimensional with penalties: they all seem to go for the goalkeeper's right hand corner (although usually very well struck). Direct free kicks: world class, best in the world surely. It was a very special strike at many levels. I haven't see JWP get that left-to-right curve from a free kick before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 There are some very illustrious footballers in the most free kicks list. JWP only has 7 more to go to overtake Beckham. I thought yesterdays goal was one of his best, given the distance and curl. I would love to see JWP reach the top because it would be a hard record to break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 11 hours ago, saintwbu said: Does anyone have a comparison of conversion rate for him and Beckham? JWP’s conversion rate feels like it’s unbelievable, we hardly get any free kicks in shooting positions and yet whenever we do, it’s a goal. I’m sure Beckham would’ve had many more opportunities from shooting positions, given the team he played for. On the other hand, JWP has already made more Premier League appearances in his career than David Beckham had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Not taking anything away from Juninho but I would be interested to see the calibre of teams he was scoring free kicks against. I’ve delved into his top 13 strikes video on YouTube again and they’re mostly against second rate Ligue 1 sides (especially considering this is nearly 20 years ago) and international minnows like UAE when playing for Brazil. For JWP to be this consistently brilliant in a Premier League that has evolved leaps and bounds in quality since Beckham’s era, I would say he’s up there with the greatest ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scallysaint Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 37 minutes ago, jawillwill said: On the other hand, JWP has already made more Premier League appearances in his career than David Beckham had... On the other, other hand Beckham played in a far better team who would have played far more football in the danger zone for free kicks. Any way the statistics are used JWP free kick record so far is amazing. Enjoy it he plays for us. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 13 hours ago, Dman said: Is there or has there been a better free kick taker in world football? I’m not sure there is, every single one is on the money. Almost as good as a penalty to us. Beckham is the only one who comes close, but to be honest, I think JWP is better than him. todays was a complete joke. And yet if you had your way he wouldn't even be on the pitch! According to you Diallo is a much better player and we play much better as a team when JWP isn't in it, or something like that...... 🙄 (all demised after Prowsey missed his first game for 2 seasons). 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 52 minutes ago, Maggie May said: Not taking anything away from Juninho but I would be interested to see the calibre of teams he was scoring free kicks against. I’ve delved into his top 13 strikes video on YouTube again and they’re mostly against second rate Ligue 1 sides (especially considering this is nearly 20 years ago) and international minnows like UAE when playing for Brazil. For JWP to be this consistently brilliant in a Premier League that has evolved leaps and bounds in quality since Beckham’s era, I would say he’s up there with the greatest ever. No doubt about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 1 hour ago, jawillwill said: On the other hand, JWP has already made more Premier League appearances in his career than David Beckham had... Which isn’t at all relevant to who is the better free kick taker… It doesn’t matter if JWP plays 1000 more games, if he takes half as many free kicks from shooting positions. Almost certain that a Man United team of the early 2000’s was getting plenty more free kicks than this Saints team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 Does anybody know the speed of the ball from that kick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said: Does anybody know the speed of the ball from that kick? S = D/T So approx 35.4m/2.38 secs Ummmm not sure, but bloody fast..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 22 minutes ago, Micky said: S = D/T So approx 35.4m/2.38 secs Ummmm not sure, but bloody fast..! Hmm. About 33mph. Not as fast as you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Hmm. About 33mph. Not as fast as you might think. It was quicker than that, I’m sure When they’ve done this sort of stuff before is shows a average strikes a ball at about 70-80 odd MPH. Although amusingly I found this whilst having a look, David Hirst 114mph, the only thing he could do quicker was neck a pint https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/feb/14/theknowledge.sport Edited 16 January, 2022 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 3 hours ago, Minsk said: And yet if you had your way he wouldn't even be on the pitch! According to you Diallo is a much better player and we play much better as a team when JWP isn't in it, or something like that...... 🙄 (all demised after Prowsey missed his first game for 2 seasons). 🤣 I’m not sure what your point is here, but personally I wouldn’t pick someone on free kick ability alone. No one has said Diallo is a better player. If he makes us better as a team is up for debate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 4 hours ago, Maggie May said: Not taking anything away from Juninho but I would be interested to see the calibre of teams he was scoring free kicks against. I don't think standard of opposition really plays a part when talking about dead ball situatons. Whether you're playing Real Madrid or the Dog & Duck it's still a case of getting it over/around the wall and on target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 26 minutes ago, Dman said: I’m not sure what your point is here, but personally I wouldn’t pick someone on free kick ability alone. No one has said Diallo is a better player. If he makes us better as a team is up for debate though. Holy cow, please tell me you are not serious? He is our best player by some way and I, for one, feel the same way about JWP that I did about MLT: thankful he plays for us and has remained loyal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64saint Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 56 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Hmm. About 33mph. Not as fast as you might think. 34.5 yds.....1.23 seconds ,= 57.4mph. unless my CSE grade 3 in maths 1970 has let me down 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 January, 2022 Share Posted 16 January, 2022 1 hour ago, Micky said: S = D/T So approx 35.4m/2.38 secs Ummmm not sure, but bloody fast..! It was more like 1.2 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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