trousers Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 Cant be arsed to wait for the game to finish... Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 Anyone know much about the youth team CBs now we'll be missing Bednarek for 3 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron fan Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: Anyone know much about the youth team CBs now we'll be missing Bednarek for 3 games? It will only be 1 game - not violent conduct 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: Anyone know much about the youth team CBs now we'll be missing Bednarek for 3 games? It’ll have to be tchaptchet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 I wonder if we'll rush Vestergaard back for this one? You could even move Bertrand there, but then we have no full backs either. What a fucking mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 There’s a chance it will be rescinded, failing that any chance of Vest or the lesser-spotted Salisu? Without all three.... 🤷♂️ Minamino on the bench should be a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 9 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: It’ll have to be tchaptchet. Bless you 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 Watching the goals back I think it's time for Forster. I thought I'd never say that... I'm hoping we see a bit of a reaction. Certainly nothing tonight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 7 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said: Watching the goals back I think it's time for Forster. I thought I'd never say that... I'm hoping we see a bit of a reaction. Certainly nothing tonight. Well there was a reaction last time it happened, I expect no different this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 Really looking forward to this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 Was Ralph asked about the status of our injuries in the lead up to tonight's game? I've not read anything about the nature of the injuries sustained against Villa or an update on Vest & KWP's recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallBoy Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 I have lost the plot now. Someone remind me who we have available if nothing changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 You'd like to assume they may overturn Bednarek's ban? I'm not sure... couldn't have a much better chance to instantly turn it around as they are shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle04 Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 Just now, Saint Matty 76 said: You'd like to assume they may overturn Bednarek's ban? I'm not sure... couldn't have a much better chance to instantly turn it around as they are shit. .... and we're not a "big" club the crooked cunts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Saint Matty 76 said: You'd like to assume they may overturn Bednarek's ban? I'm not sure... couldn't have a much better chance to instantly turn it around as they are shit. I reckon they will and that will just confirm what we all think of the idiots running VAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 Surely they will overturn that awful decision. Hopefukly KWP, Vest and Romeu are back for this. Christ do we need a return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 Fingers crossed we have some players back for this, or I worry about Saturday. The kids are nowhere near good enough. Gut feeling is they have to rescind that Red card. Was a dive. Mccarthy; KWP Vestergaard Bednarek Bertrand; JWP Romeu; Armstrong Ings Adams Redmond What’s the chances they’ll be back?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 16 minutes ago, BallBoy said: I have lost the plot now. Someone remind me who we have available if nothing changes. I'd go with McC Ramsay - Tchaptchet - Stephens - Bertrand Redmond - Armstong - JWP - Djenepo Ings - Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 45 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I wonder if we'll rush Vestergaard back for this one? You could even move Bertrand there, but then we have no full backs either. What a fucking mess. You just knew this was going to happen the minute they allowed 2 fullbacks to leave on loan - A crazy decision. Even if one of them had stayed it would have allowed us to move Bertrand into the middle. As things stand we're fucked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I'd go with McC Ramsay - Tchaptchet - Stephens - Bertrand Redmond - Armstong - JWP - Djenepo Ings - Adams Fraser in goal for a start. Would you not give Minamino a go from the beginning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I'd go with McC Ramsay - Tchaptchet - Stephens - Bertrand Redmond - Armstong - JWP - Djenepo Ings - Adams Minimino straight in for me. Redmond on the bench. I reckon we have a strong chance that Bedernek will have his card recinded. KWP 'should' be back and maybe Romeu. The starting 11 may not look 'too' bad on Saturday, but you just worry what this has done to the confidence. It took us a good few weeks to get over that previous 9-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 I’d bring Minamino straight in. McCarthy, KWP, Stephens, Bednarek (if available), Bertrand, Romeu, JWP, Armstrong, Minamino, Adams, Ings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: Minimino straight in for me. Redmond on the bench. I reckon we have a strong chance that Bedernek will have his card recinded. KWP 'should' be back and maybe Romeu. The starting 11 may not look 'too' bad on Saturday, but you just worry what this has done to the confidence. It took us a good few weeks to get over that previous 9-0. Yeah, I'm just going with worst case scenario. I was tempted by Mina but I think at a time like this Ralph will stick with what he knows, at least to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 20 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Fingers crossed we have some players back for this, or I worry about Saturday. The kids are nowhere near good enough. Gut feeling is they have to rescind that Red card. Was a dive. Mccarthy; KWP Vestergaard Bednarek Bertrand; JWP Romeu; Armstrong Ings Adams Redmond What’s the chances they’ll be back?! No chance. We’re fucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 10 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Minimino straight in for me. Redmond on the bench. I reckon we have a strong chance that Bedernek will have his card recinded. I only hope so- my big fear is the the red card stands because they don’t want to upset their mate Mike and tell him he got it wrong! Anyone know how long these appeals take, and who makes the decision to overturn? Is it the PL or PGMOL etc etc that look into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 11 minutes ago, LGTL said: I’d bring Minamino straight in. McCarthy, KWP, Stephens, Bednarek (if available), Bertrand, Romeu, JWP, Armstrong, Minamino, Adams, Ings. Ralph said none of the defenders or midfielders that are injured will be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 1 hour ago, BotleySaint said: Anyone know much about the youth team CBs now we'll be missing Bednarek for 3 games? Surely we will appeal. I’m yet to see a single person, be that pundit, ex player, fan say it was a foul yet. Danny Mills described it as the worst VAR decision ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammysaint88 Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 Did stephens pick up his 5th yellow card this evening? So doesn’t that mean he’ll miss the game as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Sammysaint88 said: Did stephens pick up his 5th yellow card this evening? So doesn’t that mean he’ll miss the game as well? Think we’re passed that stage now? Normally I’d be hoping he is banned but with no one else he’ll have to play. No chance we’re getting a result there this weekend 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 2 February, 2021 Share Posted 2 February, 2021 I can't believe I'm saying this, but can we recall Valery? I mean we don't actually have a defence for Sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 (edited) Stick with the same side. They’ve got a point to prove. Edited 3 February, 2021 by Wade Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 2 hours ago, Turkish said: Surely we will appeal. I’m yet to see a single person, be that pundit, ex player, fan say it was a foul yet. Danny Mills described it as the worst VAR decision ever. Don't worry they will no doubt find a way of making it 3-4 games on the grounds of having the temerity to lodge an appeal. No Bednarek would be a blow as he does seem to be the boss in the back line. Someone above mentioned moral would be low, after he Leicester game we played City twice in a week and everyone thought we would get battered as it turned out, yes we lost both but the scoreline was respectable and not the Cricket score most expected. Ah well just get royally drunk pre match and avoid getting emotionally involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 If we appeal the red card does the ban get delayed? Is that still a thing? We can afford to lose him next week but we’re fucked this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Can we recall Yoshida? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 The decision to bin off Valery and Vokins was mental. Sure, they're not quite up to it, but they're all we had. Assuming the Bednarek card isn't overturned, and nobody is back from injury, I think this is the best we can do. McCarthy; Tchapchet, Stephens Ramsay, Bertrand; Minamino, JWP, Armstrong, Djenepo ; Ings, Adams. You could put Tchapchet and Ramsay the other way around, both are CB's who cover RB. The alternative to a kid at CB is Bertrand with Ferry in at LB. It's what's the lesser of two evils I guess. Crazier things than Redmond at LB have happened too. No idea on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 (edited) Such a shame as we'd be nailed on for a victory against Newcastle if we didn't have 478 players injured/suspended. Can only see a Newcastle win, which will in a strange way be more painful to take than the Manure thumping. Have we ever had an injury list this long? I certainly can't remember one, happy to be educated. I wouldn't mind seeing Forster come in, but that's not purely down to the 9-0, I've enjoyed watching him recently. Think it was harsh to drop him after keeping 2 clean sheets one of which being the champions. Perhaps something like this? Forster / Ramsay Tchaptchet Stephens Bertrand / Minamino JWP Armstrong / Djenepo Ings Adams Horribly weak at the back and in midfield. I'm tempted to say at least the front 3 is strong but Ings has clearly had his head turned, Adams is in bad form and Djenepo is very hit and miss. Hate to be negative but I feel this could be a really depressing afternoon. Get our players back fit and we'll be absolutely fine, no time to panic. Edited 3 February, 2021 by niceandfriendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Does anyone know whether you can also appeal decisions which are made by VAR? As technically it’s been looked at already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 One thing for sure, if the U18's aren't ready for the bench then only name a few subs. You don't want there confidence shredded so early. As someone else pointed out on another thread, a few careers were wrecked by Portveiltd and Woote. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Irrespective of the score we lost three more points. The Media will ensure we will be reminded of the score at every possible opportunity. With a fully fit squad we can certainly win a few more. I didn’t expect anything other than a loss with the ‘dynamic disasters’ in control. We proved, even with ten men that Manure are not invincible as we got through their defence a few times last night but our final move was crap. We can blame VAR until the cows come home but it’s ‘humans ‘ who make those decisions and shame be on their heads forever, the very same two humans who cheated us last Saturday also cheated us tonight. I have said for a very long time on this forum that we have a very thin squad. Until there is some investment we will continue to be so. I am optimistic that we will get up to the 30 points on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 I'm available, big strong lad - played up front in B'mth Div 7 in the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 10 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said: You'd like to assume they may overturn Bednarek's ban? I'm not sure... couldn't have a much better chance to instantly turn it around as they are shit. Like to think they would overturn it but if they do they have to do same with David Luiz. 2 in one day ? Not a chance . Best we (and Arsenal) can hope for is an apology and a "rule clarification" like for Man City's offside goal against Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictiAbNonem Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 (edited) Victi Ab Nonem has got to be the new club motto now Edited 3 February, 2021 by VictiAbNonem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 10 hours ago, LGTL said: I’d bring Minamino straight in. McCarthy, KWP, Stephens, Bednarek (if available), Bertrand, Romeu, JWP, Armstrong, Minamino, Adams, Ings. Apparently Romeu won't be back. So, for me, Armstrong has to drop back to DM. Two from Djenepo, Redmond and Minamino. If Bednarek bdiesmt get the red overturned, no idea at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 14 minutes ago, Wurzel said: Like to think they would overturn it but if they do they have to do same with David Luiz. 2 in one day ? Not a chance . Best we (and Arsenal) can hope for is an apology and a "rule clarification" like for Man City's offside goal against Villa. I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking with Arsenal about it. Stronger case if both appeal. But, as you say, more chance they'll tweak it for future games whilst we pay the price for a stupid unclear interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 If Bednarek cant play at the weekend then football's completely lost it. Watching that back, I don't think anyone could ever give a penalty. That said, it's Saints and not Liverpool, so he'll probably get a 10 match ban for extreme violent conduct...! Did I read somewhere that Stephens is also banned for Saturday? Who else can play centre back? Is Tchapachet going to be rushed in? Difficult to judge on 10 mins last night, but has only recently appeared in matchday squads. I guess we might've been able to do a Liverpool and put a central midfielder in there, but the only one you'd choose (Romeu) is also injured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 1 minute ago, Shroppie said: I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking with Arsenal about it. Stronger case if both appeal. But, as you say, more chance they'll tweak it for future games whilst we pay the price for a stupid unclear interpretation. It’s a law with unintended consequences. It was introduced to save goalkeepers from being sent off if they had made a genuine attempt to go for the ball. The basic problem here though was giving the foul against Bednarek in the first place. There is almost universal agreement that it was never a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, VictiAbNonem said: Victi Ab Nonem has got to be the new club motto now Or, If google translate is on my side. Mike decanos ordinetur, cunnus Edited 3 February, 2021 by Uncle Albert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 It’s nearly 55 years since my Latin O-level but I think the correct description is Biggus Dickus Maximus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 Fraser is a big lump, stick him in at centre back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 3 February, 2021 Share Posted 3 February, 2021 The Newcastle game comes so soon and we now have only two Premiership defenders available head of inexperienced academy players. Are loan arrangements allowed nowadays in emergencies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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