nta786 Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: New 5 year deal. Off next Summer then. 🙄 Only if there is a release clause - Grealish's did have one I think. Otherwise with this 5 year deal the power remains in our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Seems likely he’ll stay this season now… 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Given that we're no doubt paying him a lot more and only getting an extra year added on, I can't imagine we've agreed to a particularly low release clause as well. Otherwise it's not in our interest to give the contract 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Hooray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 41 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: Live footage from Ducky’s house; Hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Well done JWP Sods law he will get injured soon!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 23 minutes ago, nta786 said: Only if there is a release clause - Grealish's did have one I think. Otherwise with this 5 year deal the power remains in our hands. Naive, means nothing. cf van Dijk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Probably where Danny Ings wages have gone then! Going to put it out there, outlandish suggestion I know, but maybe, just maybe he wants to actually stay cos loves the club and is settled in the area. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Solid, loyal, consistent. Yes please and thank you. You don't need to be the best, just an anchor for the team. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 (edited) I haven’t been this excited since Frasier Forster signed a new deal… Edited 19 August, 2021 by Lord Duckhunter 3 7 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Very pleased my opinion was proven incorrect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 On 16/08/2021 at 15:56, Scummer said: Interesting tweet from Saints just now about JWP's career with the club. Didn't look like the kind of thing you'd release if a player was about to leave, in fact it was more like a contract extension piece. 😉 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the colonel Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Well done JWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjurwi Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 I know this dosen't mean he'll stay 5 years, but this makes me very happy🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Practically going from 4 to 5 doesn’t mean much. However, Think it’s a good news story, changes the media narrative slightly, which is positive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 29 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: Naive, means nothing. cf van Dijk. We got a world record fee for a centre-back and even now it’s still 2nd highest transfer for a defensive position. It does mean something - it’s strengthened our hand for one more year should he wish to leave assuming there is no low release clause. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 I have not been his biggest fan in the past but I can't fault his loyalty, nice to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarb101 Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Alexa play 'The People' by Nappy Roots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 I’m moist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Well, that's put those chats to bed. He's an important player for us and hopefully will be for years to come. This gives him security and us security. We're protecting our asset value wise - another good couple of seasons and he's going to still command those high fee's. Good news all round really. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Good news for him, but for one year extra we will now be paying him a shit more money. The available budget for other players wages just got smaller. If there was one year left and he signed a five year I'd be celebrating, but i think I will leave that to him and his agent. Congratulations to him, he has earned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Villa fans didn't want him anyway and he can only take a good free kick so we can keep him ! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I haven’t been this excited since Frasier Forster signed a new deal… House! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 1 hour ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: Given that we're no doubt paying him a lot more and only getting an extra year added on, I can't imagine we've agreed to a particularly low release clause as well. Otherwise it's not in our interest to give the contract Villa fans seem convinced that JWP will have a release clause in his contract now because he has the same agent that Grealish had, and that he'll be leaving next summer. It's also the same agent that JWP had when he signed a new contract last season, as far as I know, and that appears not to have had a release clause. If there is one, I reckon it'd most likely be a very high one, or a relegation release clause, otherwise, like you say, his last contract still had us in a very strong position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 So he might leave next summer due to a clause, or "gentleman's agreement", but sod all that worry about it in May. This is good positive news, which is much needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said: Villa fans seem convinced that JWP will have a release clause in his contract now because he has the same agent that Grealish had, and that he'll be leaving next summer. It's also the same agent that JWP had when he signed a new contract last season, as far as I know, and that appears not to have had a release clause. If there is one, I reckon it'd most likely be a very high one, or a relegation release clause, otherwise, like you say, his last contract still had us in a very strong position. Saints have never done release clauses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Just now, Shroppie said: Saints have never done release clauses Aye, we tend to do pretty well on that front. I wouldn't say we'd never use them, for example Chelsea effectively have one for Livramento, but it's certainly very rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 It does make you laugh doesn't it , Apparently yesterday we named our price (50m) and today he's signed a new contract. Shows that the media mostly know sod all . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, Shroppie said: Saints have never done release clauses Let’s keep our fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said: Villa fans seem convinced that JWP will have a release clause in his contract now because he has the same agent that Grealish had, and that he'll be leaving next summer. It's also the same agent that JWP had when he signed a new contract last season, as far as I know, and that appears not to have had a release clause. If there is one, I reckon it'd most likely be a very high one, or a relegation release clause, otherwise, like you say, his last contract still had us in a very strong position. He had a four year contract on x wages with no release clause. We give him an extra year, on more wages, with a release clause added. Yeah, sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 10 minutes ago, Shroppie said: Saints have never done release clauses but we do "gentlemen's agreements" right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chez said: He had a four year contract on x wages with no release clause. We give him an extra year, on more wages, with a release clause added. Yeah, sure. Indeed. Grealish was replacing a shorter contract that already had a known (albeit smaller) release clause in it when he signed the last Villa one. Completely different situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 what odds the agent fed Villa a line that they could get him for about £30m. They make a £25m bid, we tell them where to go, but now he can go back to Saints and ask for a new contract. Saints value him as a £35m+ player, thus they should pay him as one. His wage goes from £65k a week to £100k+ a week. Agent job done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Wasn’t against selling him at the right price but have zero confidence in us getting a decent enough replacement at this late stage in the window so glad he’s staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Chez said: what odds the agent fed Villa a line that they could get him for about £30m. They make a £25m bid, we tell them where to go, but now he can go back to Saints and ask for a new contract. Saints value him as a £35m+ player, thus they should pay him as one. His wage goes from £65k a week to £100k+ a week. Agent job done. If you could why wouldn’t you? Especially given his agent will have a good idea what we offered Ings and we’ve just trimmed best part of £300k a week off the wage bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Chez said: what odds the agent fed Villa a line that they could get him for about £30m. They make a £25m bid, we tell them where to go, but now he can go back to Saints and ask for a new contract. Saints value him as a £35m+ player, thus they should pay him as one. His wage goes from £65k a week to £100k+ a week. Agent job done. Nah, something so simplistic would come out. I think it's nothing more than they made a bid, we said no, he said he wants to go, we said not now and we'll make it worth your while, he said that's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 B*****. We're never going to get rid of bloody poster boy. What a bloody con! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: If you could why wouldn’t you? Especially given his agent will have a good idea what we offered Ings and we’ve just trimmed best part of £300k a week off the wage bill yep, that's an agent's job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chez said: yep, that's an agent's job. Mission complete mr client Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Apart from the free kicks I don't rate him and was hoping he'd be sold...too lightweight and in no way a captain. 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer42 Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Our best player signs a new contract, and make no mistake if he had gone as well, we would be relegated come May......and what happens, he gets slagged off and criticised that's its for the money, release clauses etc......a decent set of fans would be backing him for his commitment and loyalty to the club while all the other players sought after f*cked off! I don't get the animosity towards JWP and the attitudes of so called fans on here. well done JWP......you might just have saved our season 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon3737 Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 2 hours ago, VectisSaint said: Naive, means nothing. cf van Dijk. I disagree. It seems pretty clear to me that VVD bitterly regretted signing the extension with us. He got a pay rise for a few months after which he embarrassed himself going on strike etc. Clearly his ego was big enough to quickly recover though!! He could have gone to Liverp**l for £50m, all sorted quickly and we’d have had £25m less in the bank. Financially, his extension was good for Saints (* if we hadn’t then wasted all the money) and made it harder for VVD to leave us. JWP’s extension is undoubtedly good news. Worse case is we’ll get more cash if he’s sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 1 minute ago, jimmer42 said: Our best player signs a new contract, and make no mistake if he had gone as well, we would be relegated come May......and what happens, he gets slagged off and criticised that's its for the money, release clauses etc......a decent set of fans would be backing him for his commitment and loyalty to the club while all the other players sought after f*cked off! I don't get the animosity towards JWP and the attitudes of so called fans on here. well done JWP......you might just have saved our season Behave! 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 4 minutes ago, egg said: Nah, something so simplistic would come out. I think it's nothing more than they made a bid, we said no, he said he wants to go, we said not now and we'll make it worth your while, he said that's cool. do teams make bids without chatting to an agent first (to find out if they want to join and how much they'd want paying)? Funny how they make a low bid then five minutes later he gets a new deal. You don't think the agent played a part in initiating that? It matters not. He got paid. Maybe with the money we need for that new keeper. 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Just now, Chez said: do teams make bids without chatting to an agent first (to find out if they want to join and how much they'd want paying)? Funny how they make a low bid then five minutes later he gets a new deal. You don't think the agent played a part in initiating that? It matters not. He got paid. Maybe with the money we need for that new keeper. 😏 Yep, all deals involve a pre bid chat with the agent about wages, but that's completely different to the agent feeding a bullshit selling price to a potential buyer. Anyways, the details are irrelevant, he's signed and he's going anywhere for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalCommunist Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 Lets hope he has a similar assists and goals tally to last season, then we are all laughing. Plenty of other things to moan about................like replacing Vesti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 I love you Prowsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 1 hour ago, jimmer42 said: Our best player signs a new contract, and make no mistake if he had gone as well, we would be relegated come May......and what happens, he gets slagged off and criticised that's its for the money, release clauses etc......a decent set of fans would be backing him for his commitment and loyalty to the club while all the other players sought after f*cked off! I don't get the animosity towards JWP and the attitudes of so called fans on here. well done JWP......you might just have saved our season One man alone will not save our season, we need at least 5 our 6 regulars to have a decent season for us to avoid relegation. Much as this is good news, it guarantees nothing, we are still going to be in and around the dogfight places. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 19 August, 2021 Share Posted 19 August, 2021 3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I haven’t been this excited since Frasier Forster signed a new deal… When a new signing walks into our dressing room Ward Prowse is somebody who lets them know why it is an honour and a privilege to put our shirt on. He understands the culture of our club. He is 'our level' plus and his contribution around the club makes him invaluable to us. He is somebody you want about the club. What price do you put on that? I had hoped Danny Ings would also be in that mold but sadly not and I am convinced our run of bad form was down to his lack of commitment behind the scenes changing the momentum of the team after Christmas. I don't begrudge him that, it is football but I salute Ward Prowse for his commitment. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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