Defectors Watch

[LiberalCommunist]

2 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

Michail Antonio is still spearheading a top 8 West Ham side. Why did we let him go? 

Because he was on loan from Reading. And there's no way we could have predicted that skinny little kid from back then would turn out to be a total beast mode. 

[Dr Who?]

3 minutes ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Because he was on loan from Reading. And there's no way we could have predicted that skinny little kid from back then would turn out to be a total beast mode. 

So was it Reading that wanted to keep him then. As I remember he and Pardew wanted him to stay here. Next I knew he was turning out at Colchester! 

[LiberalCommunist]

They definitely didn't gift wrap him. 

His 21st birthday with us was fun though, he'll always have a place in folklore for that. 

[S-Clarke]

18 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

Michail Antonio is still spearheading a top 8 West Ham side. Why did we let him go? 

We wanted to keep him, but Reading wanted something like 1m. In hindsight that was a snip, but Cortese wouldn't pay that.

So we spent £750k on De Ridder instead.

Oh well.

[Manuel]

15 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

Michail Antonio is still spearheading a top 8 West Ham side. Why did we let him go? 

I remember watching him at the time, in the first team.  If I remember rightly, the common view was that he was fast but very raw and lacking ability at the time.  He needed serious coaching investment and I agree, it's a shame we didn't hang on to him and do it ourselves.  Win some, lose some.  

We've let go of a few high achievers over the years, but I'm sure all clubs are as guilty if not more so.

[Green]

He left and Oxlade-Chamberlain stepped up. De Ridder was the season after. 

[Badger]

Just now, S-Clarke said:

We wanted to keep him, but Reading wanted something like 1m. In hindsight that was a snip, but Cortese wouldn't pay that.

So we spent £750k on De Ridder instead.

Oh well.

I think Cortese probably felt Reading were taking the piss. I remember a fee of £250,00 was discussed/rumoured when the player first came to us then they hiked the price at the end of the season.

De Ridder was the season after promotion , so not an immediate replacement for Antonio.

[Dr Who?]

4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

We wanted to keep him, but Reading wanted something like 1m. In hindsight that was a snip, but Cortese wouldn't pay that.

So we spent £750k on De Ridder instead.

Oh well.

Who scored a cracker at Reading. Swings and roundabouts. 

Edited 23 August, 2021 by Dr Who?

[Badger]

Just now, Dr Who? said:

Who scored a cracker at Reading. Swings and roundabouts. 

He was worth the fee for the celebrations at Reading alone.

[Dr Who?]

3 minutes ago, Badger said:

He was worth the fee for the celebrations at Reading alone.

Was brilliant. We only drew 1-1 but what a strike and time to score. 

[woodsaint1]

Whats up with Vestergaard? Doesnt even make the Leicester squad and they're having to play Amartey CB again

[Yorkshire Saint]

7 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

Whats up with Vestergaard? Doesnt even make the Leicester squad and they're having to play Amartey CB again

Or Bertrand 

[egg]

24 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

Whats up with Vestergaard? Doesnt even make the Leicester squad and they're having to play Amartey CB again

 

16 minutes ago, Nick75Sfc said:

Or Bertrand 

I understand Bertrand had covid. Vestergaard I'd imagine is unwell or injured. 

[Baird of the land]

António murdered soyuncu. Hoping he has his usual hamstring strain by the time we play them.

[egg]

1 minute ago, Baird of the land said:

António murdered soyuncu. Hoping he has his usual hamstring strain by the time we play them.

Yep. Soyuncu doesn't get bullied too often, but he did tonight. Brilliant performance. 

[S-Clarke]

2 hours ago, Badger said:

I think Cortese probably felt Reading were taking the piss. I remember a fee of £250,00 was discussed/rumoured when the player first came to us then they hiked the price at the end of the season.

De Ridder was the season after promotion , so not an immediate replacement for Antonio.

Good point, was a year out on that one!

[Dr Who?]

He is now West Ham’s top premier league goal scorer. Not bad. 

[Whitey Grandad]

We trained him well

[VectisSaint]

22 hours ago, egg said:

 

I understand Bertrand had covid. Vestergaard I'd imagine is unwell or injured. 

Vestegaard picked up a minor knee injury in training. Not thought to be serious. 

[rooney]

11 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

Vestegaard picked up a minor knee injury in training. Not thought to be serious. 

That will slow him down a little😉

[John B]

On 24/08/2021 at 08:31, Whitey Grandad said:

We trained him well

Probably true but all down to Pardew who I felt was a great judge of a footballer

Puncheon Fonte and Lambert were his choices I believe

[Fan The Flames]

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/2230273

Still a big head.

[Killers Knee]

Steven Davis, still got it.  Played a blinder in the Old Firm derby

[CB Fry]

 

Just seen this.

[Tamesaint]

3 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

 

Just seen this.

Any ideas of Callum Chambers's stats in the same match?

[qwertyell]

3 hours ago, Tamesaint said:

Any ideas of Callum Chambers's stats in the same match?

The only stat that matters is we got £16m for a defender who can't play in any of the defensive positions.

He's genuinely worse than Jack Stephens. 

 

 

[Ted Bates Statue]

Juanmi scored twice against Celtic this evening in Europa.

I read an interview with Hugo Scheckter a few months ago about a former Saints player whose Spanish wife settled so poorly in England that the club were forced to let the player leave for a lot less than his market value. No name was given but I presumed he was referring to Juanmi as the only Spanish player to leave in recent years, although I don't keep tabs on the nationality of player's spouses so it could have been someone else. There I was thinking it was that he wasn't really suited to English football.

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, Ted Bates Statue said:

Juanmi scored twice against Celtic this evening in Europa.

I read an interview with Hugo Scheckter a few months ago about a former Saints player whose Spanish wife settled so poorly in England that the club were forced to let the player leave for a lot less than his market value. No name was given but I presumed he was referring to Juanmi as the only Spanish player to leave in recent years, although I don't keep tabs on the nationality of player's spouses so it could have been someone else. There I was thinking it was that he wasn't really suited to English football.

I was in The Costa del Sol  the preseason we signed him,  some ex pats were raving about him, reckoned we had an absolute gem on our hands.

[trousers]

 

[SuperSAINT]

7 hours ago, trousers said:

 

I miss Saint Nacho’s songs.

[RedWillie]

From the BBC on the Leicester v Napoli match last night....

But a sublime one-touch passing move saw Osimhen dance into the box before he flicked the ball past Jannik Vestergaard and over Schmeichel.

 

 

[danjosaint]

He didn't flick the ball past Vesty, Vesty was in position to ease Oshimen out but was far to weak and off balance, that was a routine block that Schmeichel would have come and claimed, that goal I'm afraid was down to him although Oshimen did take it well 

[Nordic Saint]

FoxesTalk:

"Our defence without Evans is fvcking garbage."

"Defensive horror show."

"Defending this season has been atrocious. Look shaky every time the ball comes near our box."

"Centre defence was pretty weak"

"Soyuncu and Vestegaard scare me. The latter has to be the weakest player I've ever seen going shoulder to shoulder with a player."

"Problem with playing Evans and Vestergaard together is lack of pace - they got caught out lots of times in the first half."

"Vestergaard was very poor tonight, awful for their first goal and nowhere near their most dangerous player Osimhen for his headed goal, surely he should have been marking him ffs."

"I miss Fofana"

"Vestergaard looks weak and limp defensively."

"Vestegaard just literally gave up and let the Napoli striker just breeze past him. Shocking defending."

"Vestergaard is 8 foot 12 but hasn't got any shoulders."

[saint1977]

Not just Leicester fans saying it either https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-player-ratings-v-5928431

Salisu is more of an athlete which is helping Stephens and tbh I’m not sure Lyanco will be worse than Vesty when gets opportunities. Soyuncu is a better partner for Vesty than Evans in a 4 at the back although looked like 3-5-2 or 5-3-2. Evans is a better defender and organiser but also not the quickest. 

Also quite a bit of trouble before, during and after the game between the fans with a dozen arrests and growing. 

[Charlie Wayman]

2 hours ago, Nordic Saint said:

FoxesTalk:

"Our defence without Evans is fvcking garbage."

"Defensive horror show."

"Defending this season has been atrocious. Look shaky every time the ball comes near our box."

"Centre defence was pretty weak"

"Soyuncu and Vestegaard scare me. The latter has to be the weakest player I've ever seen going shoulder to shoulder with a player."

"Problem with playing Evans and Vestergaard together is lack of pace - they got caught out lots of times in the first half."

"Vestergaard was very poor tonight, awful for their first goal and nowhere near their most dangerous player Osimhen for his headed goal, surely he should have been marking him ffs."

"I miss Fofana"

"Vestergaard looks weak and limp defensively."

"Vestegaard just literally gave up and let the Napoli striker just breeze past him. Shocking defending."

"Vestergaard is 8 foot 12 but hasn't got any shoulders."

Seems we have got away with murder for once. Hide the money before they want to back!

[HarvSFC]

Here's the goal. I watched the match and Vestergaard was poor all round. Keeping players onside at times, slow against Napoli's attack, was booked for a late tackle on the halfway line. He wasn't even playing diagonal balls last night.

As said, he had three good months here in three years. He wasn't half as much of a loss as neutrals thought he was to us.

[rooney]

All the pundits think that we will be in trouble losing Vest and Bertie but they make no mention of them being part of the worst defence in the PL last season or the fact that they are  so slow now.

[The Cat]

3 hours ago, saint1977 said:

Also quite a bit of trouble before, during and after the game between the fans with a dozen arrests and growing. 

Leicester fans might need to be on their toes for the away game.

[Chris cooper]

2 hours ago, The Cat said:

Leicester fans might need to be on their toes for the away game.

Yep the Napoli lads were bang up for it ..never shyd away went all in !!

[Roo1976]

Danso got sent off last night playing for Lens.

[Whitey Grandad]

J-Rod scored four for Burnley on Tuesday.

[Nordic Saint]

Vestergaard having his usual nightmare game for Leicester. He's so bad the commentators are saying they should take him off at half-time.

 

And Leicester fans have had enough of him already. They don't want to see him in their team any more:

 

Vestergaard signs - Page 17 - Leicester City Forum - FoxesTalk

Edited 25 September, 2021 by Nordic Saint

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Nordic Saint said:

Vestergaard having his usual nightmare game for Leicester. He's so bad the commentators are saying they should take him off at half-time.

 

And Leicester fans have had enough of him already. They don't want to see him in their team any more:

 

Vestergaard signs - Page 17 - Leicester City Forum - FoxesTalk

Some very familiar comments in there.

Good job for us they didn't do their research on this board or we'd still have him here. Appears he's found his form there which isn't up to his 3-4 month purple patch he had with us.

[angelman]

1 hour ago, Nordic Saint said:

Vestergaard having his usual nightmare game for Leicester. He's so bad the commentators are saying they should take him off at half-time.

 

And Leicester fans have had enough of him already. They don't want to see him in their team any more:

 

Vestergaard signs - Page 17 - Leicester City Forum - FoxesTalk

Vestie best not venture on to twitter, where he seems to be trending. Many seem impressed that we got £15m for him. Never like an ex player struggle. They're none too happy with Bertie either. 

Edited 25 September, 2021 by angelman

[max_saints]

Imagine the meltdown on here if we'd signed Vergini and O'shea from that Sunderland side (Yes I do know bert was sent off after just 12 mins and Vest hauled off at HT)

[angelman]

"Did anyone really believe that two average players from a mid-table club could help us...?"

https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/topic/126561-vestergaard-signs/?do=findComment&comment=6148833

 

This is what I find quite sad. LCFC and SFC really aren't hugely different, or rather there's no reason why we should be. But we are obviously down to the owners. 

 

[Nordic Saint]

26 minutes ago, angelman said:

"Did anyone really believe that two average players from a mid-table club could help us...?"

https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/topic/126561-vestergaard-signs/?do=findComment&comment=6148833

 

This is what I find quite sad. LCFC and SFC really aren't hugely different, or rather there's no reason why we should be. But we are obviously down to the owners. 

 

I wouldn't worry. If Leicester keep playing Vestergaard, we'll finish above them this season.

[washsaint]

What a result getting rid of both Bertrand and Vestegaard.

Bertrand was a good servant but crap the last year or so and Vestie was just crap except for one purple patch.  Can't believe Leicester gave Bertrand 2 years and paid 15 million for Vestie.

Salisu and Perraud are better than both.

[The Cat]

Reading the Leicester forum they all think he's crap and that Bertrand isn't much better. Seems so far that we did pretty well getting rid of both at the right time.

[HarvSFC]

We saw Bertrand’s best years, and in those years he could have made the step up to a more prestigious club, but stayed here for whatever reason. Vestergaard, yeah, we were fortunate to get £15m for him. No better than Yoshida, bar the diagonal passing.