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3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I used the same spelling as the person I was making the point to. DMan called him Lingaard! 

Use '(sic)' if you're knowingly inheriting / re-using someone else's spelling error. Any teacher and/or educated person worth their salt would know that ;) #cheekybanter

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As a kid I remember Saints playing a friendly at the Dell against Girondins as they were called then and generally they have been a decent club until the American guy who was once linked to us became involved.
However I always thought Saints should have an arrangement with Le Havre as they have generally been a 2nd Level French club but have brought through a lot of good youngsters.
I also once played at their old ground!! 

 

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This seems like a huge gamble. I hope he's an instant success but the Premiership is very different to playing for bottom of the table, Bordeaux.

Surely, he's of a similar level / standard as 23 year old, Dan N'Lundulu, so if we're buying Mara, why are we not giving a Dan chance in the first team? 

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5 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

This seems like a huge gamble. I hope he's an instant success but the Premiership is very different to playing for bottom of the table, Bordeaux.

Surely, he's of a similar level / standard as 23 year old, Dan N'Lundulu, so if we're buying Mara, why are we not giving a Dan chance in the first team? 

Because N’Lundulu will not be Prem material and will not ever be to that standard. Do you honestly believe we should play someone on loan at Cheltenham rather than a French u21 international who scored 6 in 24 I. Ligue1. Last season?

I used to watch Dan loads my son reffed a number of his games and he is so injury prone has a terrible touch and no strikers instinct.

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4 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

This seems like a huge gamble. I hope he's an instant success but the Premiership is very different to playing for bottom of the table, Bordeaux.

Surely, he's of a similar level / standard as 23 year old, Dan N'Lundulu, so if we're buying Mara, why are we not giving a Dan chance in the first team? 

All signings are gambles to be fair. Signing Carillo for £20m was a gamble, signing Mane for £11m was a gamble. Some work out, some don't.

I get peoples concerns about the lack of experience in the side, but it's a brave approach and potentially an incredibly rewarding approach. The people running the club aren't stupid, and I'd suggest you watch a bit of League 1 and then Ligue 1 to realise that the statement about N'Lundalu is a little daft to say the least.

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9 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

Surely, he's of a similar level / standard as 23 year old, Dan N'Lundulu

MLG Mode.... 

What have you seen from both players to reach a conclusion of this level of certainty....?

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On a separate tangent, I know myself and many have some questions regarding our purchasing of youth this window. But, these players are all costing around the £15m mark, barring Aribo, who had a release clause in his contract. That's still a good amount of money. If we wanted to sign proven players, who still have question marks on if they can adapt over here, that's going to cost around £25m-£30m these days and we've been stung in that market already with the likes of Boufal, Lemina, Hoedt, Elyounoussi and Vestergaard, who would all probably be priced around £10m more today, than what we paid for them just a few years ago. We'd need to sell to be able to afford the players in that market and there's no point in selling JWP or KWP or Salisu this summer, as we'd have a massive hole in our team to fill. Unlike in 2014-15 when we still had Schneiderlin, Fonte, Wanyama, Clyne and S. Davis here to compensate for the sales. See Leeds as an example, they've put £30m down on an American attacker with 4 goals in the Austrian league last season and £22m on an attacker from the Dutch league. Essentially, the more experienced player market is too much these days, especially for a striker with Broja being priced at £30m+ and half the league also looking for a striker. Lets hope we've been smart and it all works out, while we watch the same clubs (Everton) make the same mistakes every year. As I said, we've gone for the more experienced players and it hasn't worked out. We were shopping at the cheaper end of that market, hoping they'd come good and I think they were more of a risk than us shopping at the higher end of the youth market.

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10 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Lets hope we've been smart and it all works out, while we watch the same clubs (Everton) make the same mistakes every year. As I said, we've gone for the more experienced players and it hasn't worked out. We were shopping at the cheaper end of that market, hoping they'd come good and I think they were more of a risk than us shopping at the higher end of the youth market.

Indeed. Will be worth re-posting this in the autumn when the usual doom-and-gloom suspects start playing their "told you so" cards..... ;)

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9 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

On a separate tangent, I know myself and many have some questions regarding our purchasing of youth this window. But, these players are all costing around the £15m mark, barring Aribo, who had a release clause in his contract. That's still a good amount of money. If we wanted to sign proven players, who still have question marks on if they can adapt over here, that's going to cost around £25m-£30m these days and we've been stung in that market already with the likes of Boufal, Lemina, Hoedt, Elyounoussi and Vestergaard, who would all probably be priced around £10m more today, than what we paid for them just a few years ago. We'd need to sell to be able to afford the players in that market and there's no point in selling JWP or KWP or Salisu this summer, as we'd have a massive hole in our team to fill. Unlike in 2014-15 when we still had Schneiderlin, Fonte, Wanyama, Clyne and S. Davis here to compensate for the sales. See Leeds as an example, they've put £30m down on an American attacker with 4 goals in the Austrian league last season and £22m on an attacker from the Dutch league. Essentially, the more experienced player market is too much these days, especially for a striker with Broja being priced at £30m+ and half the league also looking for a striker. Lets hope we've been smart and it all works out, while we watch the same clubs (Everton) make the same mistakes every year. As I said, we've gone for the more experienced players and it hasn't worked out. We were shopping at the cheaper end of that market, hoping they'd come good and I think they were more of a risk than us shopping at the higher end of the youth market.

Spot on, you only have to look at the expensive flops from the likes of Everton, Man Utd, Arsenal, Spurs or even someone like Villa to see spending big (which we don't have) doesn't seem to work out well that often. Hell West Ham have had their own collection of expensive flops and have actually improved with some better scouted and cheaper signings like Coufal, Soucek, Bowen etc. 

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14 minutes ago, tajjuk said:

Spot on, you only have to look at the expensive flops from the likes of Everton, Man Utd, Arsenal, Spurs or even someone like Villa to see spending big (which we don't have) doesn't seem to work out well that often. Hell West Ham have had their own collection of expensive flops and have actually improved with some better scouted and cheaper signings like Coufal, Soucek, Bowen etc. 

Really?  How do know some where ‘better’ scouted?  And what does it mean?

If anything you’d hope they go through the same process in wanting to buy a player for millions of pounds to give themselves as much information to make a decision on. 
 

or do you mean, back the manager regardless like we did with Carillo?

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37 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said:

Really?  How do know some where ‘better’ scouted?  And what does it mean?

If anything you’d hope they go through the same process in wanting to buy a player for millions of pounds to give themselves as much information to make a decision on. 
 

or do you mean, back the manager regardless like we did with Carillo?

I mean getting better value, iirc a while back the owners son was mouthing off on twitter about potential signings and iirc they did go for Pellegrini's targets, so I'd presume something has changed behind the scenes with their transfer strategy. 

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4 hours ago, Nolan said:

prescient:

 

 

Very exciting young talent,  soooo much potential! seems perfectly suited to our style of play. If that report is any indication of what we have brought,  he could be a great buy!

Loving the young players we are getting, the "moneyball" scouting, 6-15 million for young players who are  6'+, fast, skilful, play aggressive and will work hard defensively. There are so many great young players out there that we can buy just before they get established or on the cusp. As many have said it is a gamble, but we have stacked the deck in our favor. To the boards credit, they have delivered a new owner, management team,  coaching and scouting that fits with their new model of buying the best young talent in a price range that is sustainable. SFC have some serious talent off the field!

The new recruits have all been highly praised by media as being shrewd business for exciting young tallent.

Welcome Mr. Mara, may you be the best you can be at SFC!

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I assumed we'd take a punt on one of the (hopefully) two attackers we bought, this definitely seems that option.

Wouldn't be surprised to see us end the window with a winger similar to Karlsson and a full-back on loan, with an additional CB if we manage to shift Bednarek.

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13 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

2 medicals booked for this week, I would assume Mara is one of them...🤔

The ones last week were for the 2 kids that joined from Spurs supposedly.

Someone like Brandon Williams would be my guess.

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15 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

2 medicals booked for this week, I would assume Mara is one of them...🤔

A private jet just arrived at Southampton from Girona.... gotta be a clue to the other chap, surely....? ;) :)

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7 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

And why are Newcastle the baddy's for waiting for the club to go bust so they can secure a better deal? Obviously it hasn't worked on this occasion but there's no room for morals and ethics when it comes to business.

Especially at that club. They don’t have any. 

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36 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

And why are Newcastle the baddy's for waiting for the club to go bust so they can secure a better deal? Obviously it hasn't worked on this occasion but there's no room for morals and ethics when it comes to business.

Why not? It is possible to be successful in business without being unpleasant. 

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1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

Why not? It is possible to be successful in business without being unpleasant. 

Yes of course, if you can then great but if you have the choice between spending £12 Million and being nice about it or acquiring that same asset for nothing but seeing a company fold, unfortunately, it has to be the latter.

Like I said, obviously it hasn't worked (if it's true) but I don't harbour any ill feelings toward them for trying it.

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4 hours ago, SNSUN said:

Bazunu (20)

Tino (19)

Simeu (20)

ABK (20)

Small (17)

Smallbone (22)

Lavia (18)

Diallo (23)

Aribo (25)

Djenepo (24)

Tella (23)

 

We have the potential to field a very young team this season made up of "first teamers"! Average age 21. Mara would lower it more. (Obviously we would never field this team, it's just a possible.)

 

seems like yesterday JWP was the youngster. Now he doesn't even make the list!

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8 minutes ago, Behind Enemy Lines said:


MLG mode…

As it’s an M registration aircraft, unless the player (or his family) own the aircraft, it would be an illegal charter. 

No that is a library image, the aircraft’s registration is 2-oopc which is Guernsey, the aircraft is owned by Embibe Ltd which specialise in pubs and bars.

MLG mode off

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