Site issues

[TWar]

Another option is reddit.com/r/saintsfc. Not the biggest community yet but the reddit layout is easy to use and goal highlights are posted on there as they happen.

[Toadhall Saint]

Slow this morning 

[Wurzel]

On 30/08/2020 at 11:17, S-Clarke said:

Makes absolutely no difference. The problem is the platform it's hosted on/forum backend, going in via specific links isn't going to make any difference (as it hasn't for me, at any point). You probably just get lucky at that one second.

I'm getting very luck then.The Google route has worked for me so far every time I've tried it, even when direct link doesn't.

 

[jasonb]

Aww man... don't let this be the end. 

I started out on Saintslist via Yahoo then SaintsForever and then signed up to Saintsweb when that change happened. 

I might actually have to do some work if this place dies out and that isn't good folks. Not good at all. 

#PrayForSaintsWeb 

Just had a quick look the Ugly board and its a bit all over the place. The reddit suggestion could work I guess although that's not dedicated just for us. I don't like the multi-team board format. Its great having ONE forum that is ours. Sad times. 

[Saint Billy]

It would be a help if there was some sort of update on the situation because from looking in it seems like nothing is happening, I am hoping there is work behind the scenes but as every day goes on it seems more and more like a slow death and that soon this forum will be no more, which is very sad as many of us have been on this site for years along with its predecessors.

[igsey]

12 minutes ago, jasonb said:

Aww man... don't let this be the end. 

I started out on Saintslist via Yahoo then SaintsForever and then signed up to Saintsweb when that change happened. 

I might actually have to do some work if this place dies out and that isn't good folks. Not good at all. 

#PrayForSaintsWeb 

Just had a quick look the Ugly board and its a bit all over the place. The reddit suggestion could work I guess although that's not dedicated just for us. I don't like the multi-team board format. Its great having ONE forum that is ours. Sad times. 

reddit.com/r/saintsfc is the Southampton subreddit. /r/soccer is the general football one.

[skintsaint]

me clicking a thread most of the time :

[Weston Saint]

Good as gone. Very few people posting now. Steve has not been on since 22 August.

Abandon all hope ye who enter here.

Edited 1 September, 2020 by Weston Saint

[The Cat]

I can get in by going to activity and then using next unread topic, but if I try and click on a thread it never works. 

[Suhari]

Shame this - been a good place over the years.

I hope this isn't the death throes of Saintsweb.

[Saint86]

Hopefully this is not the end of Saintsweb, but is there a solid interim option for an alternative site? Been using this place for years, but struggling to get on at all now and really missing the Saints gossip and ITK snippets 😪.

[SuperSAINT]

The old site wasn't bad enough to lose this place was it?!

Edited 1 September, 2020 by SuperSAINT

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, jasonb said:

Aww man... don't let this be the end. 

I started out on Saintslist via Yahoo then SaintsForever and then signed up to Saintsweb when that change happened. 

I might actually have to do some work if this place dies out and that isn't good folks. Not good at all. 

#PrayForSaintsWeb 

Just had a quick look the Ugly board and its a bit all over the place. The reddit suggestion could work I guess although that's not dedicated just for us. I don't like the multi-team board format. Its great having ONE forum that is ours. Sad times. 

I followed the same route as you. It would be a shame if it folded but nothing lasts forever. I agree about the Ugly but with an influx of decent posters it does have the potential to be a good site if the worst happens here.

[trousers]

Any chance of an update Mr Grant please sir? Thanking you kindly @stevegrant

[Weston Saint]

Ah Steve is back

[trousers]

By the way, the suggestion someone had previously of tunneling into the site via bookmarking an existing thread does seem to boost one's chances of getting in...

[Wurzel]

On 31/08/2020 at 11:20, Wurzel said:

I'm getting very luck then.The Google route has worked for me so far every time I've tried it, even when direct link doesn't.

 

I take it back, looks like I DID get very lucky, that way hasn't worked since I posted it.

 

[Toadhall Saint]

Ok for me this afternoon 

[Baird of the land]

I starting to wonder if the topic listing page is a myth as I haven’t seen it for ages. Mostly able to use more recent topic navigation to see and post.

[Dusic]

All the good posters no longer post here and you can (actually) see why.

[LGTL]

At least someone save the Pompey Takeover thread before the lights are turned out on here. 

[Matthew Le God]

8 hours ago, jasonb said:

Aww man... don't let this be the end. 

I started out on Saintslist via Yahoo then SaintsForever and then signed up to Saintsweb when that change happened. 

I might actually have to do some work if this place dies out and that isn't good folks. Not good at all. 

#PrayForSaintsWeb 

Just had a quick look the Ugly board and its a bit all over the place. The reddit suggestion could work I guess although that's not dedicated just for us. I don't like the multi-team board format. Its great having ONE forum that is ours. Sad times. 

https://www.sotonians.com/

Edited 1 September, 2020 by Matthew Le God

[Yozzman]

Working fine today.

[SaintBobby]

Been awful again today...have finally got on after 50 attempts. Losing the will to try again. Hope Steve can fix it.

[Roo1976]

but why was it moved ..........or changed?..........this is so frustrating .

[st.bangkok]

1 hour ago, Roo1976 said:

but why was it moved ..........or changed?..........this is so frustrating .

Money probably. Cheaper/shared host server option. 

[trousers]

23 minutes ago, st.bangkok said:

Money probably. Cheaper/shared host server option. 

The words 'false' and 'economy' spring to mind. Given £5/mth for most people is relatively peanuts (16 new pence per day) I'd venture there would have been enough people prepared to pay more to retain a quality level of service. (even if it was as much as a fiver a month I'd probably still pitch in....)

Even if it has to be a "Cheaper/shared" solution, surely there is more than one option out there in that category? Appreciate its a PITA moving stuff from one provider to another, but if the first one is no cop, then just try more providers until we find one that isn't shite...? 

[trousers]

23 minutes ago, st.bangkok said:

Money probably. Cheaper/shared host server option. 

The words 'false' and 'economy' spring to mind. Given £5/mth for most people is relatively peanuts (16 new pence per day) I'd venture there would have been enough people prepared to pay more to retain a quality level of service. (even if it was as much as a fiver a month I'd probably still pitch in....)

Even if it has to be a "Cheaper/shared" solution, surely there is more than one option out there in that category? Appreciate its a PITA moving stuff from one provider to another, but if the first one is no cop, then just try more providers until we find one that isn't shite...? 

[M271]

Really bad again this morning, seems to be fine for some hours and then suddenly changes to being slow or 502 and 504 warnings.

Assuming the Cloudfront name that comes up with the 504 are the same then maybe some techies can make sense of the link below:

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonCloudFront/latest/DeveloperGuide/troubleshooting-response-errors.html

[Farkas]

Time for this site to go into permanent lockdown.

 

[sydney_saint]

Just read through this thread for first time. Sending my appreciation to @stevegrant for trying to fix this, but also for looking after the forum, often praiseless, for all these years. I would have liked to have thought that over a decade of holding this forum together and fostering this community would have given you more goodwill. Especially as there is hardly anything going on with Saints at the moment. It's not like we are gunning for the title with two games left. But there are certainly plenty who do appreciate it. And trust you to sort this out (if you don't just pack it in, which, looking through the comments, I wouldn't blame you). 

[Batman]

What ever the reasons, this place is dying on its arse.  Shame really, as it used to be a hive of activity.

No idea what the reasons are but many other Forum's do not shudder like this and have far greater numbers (and no fee).  As said, if the current owners do not have the capacity to look after it (no slight if they do not), then please pass it on.........allow the site to keep going.  Maybe new ideas, freshen the place up and inject something else into it.....

[beatlesaint]

22 minutes ago, Batman said:

and inject something else into it.....

Like a host server company that gives a shit when clients entrust their forums to them you mean?

Would be very interested what other forums they host and if they have these issues.

Its such a shame what’s happened here 

[SuperSAINT]

Today was BAD.  Very hard to get on.

[bowers-sfc]

Rather then all the sub forums, maybe something like Brighton’s? 
 

www.northstandchat.com

 

mainly all 1 big forum called ‘the big board’ 

and you have sub cats rather then separate pages... seems to work well and handles a lot more traffic then here. 
 

just a suggestion, sure Steve will come up with something that works. 

[Saint_clark]

16 hours ago, trousers said:

The words 'false' and 'economy' spring to mind. Given £5/mth for most people is relatively peanuts (16 new pence per day) I'd venture there would have been enough people prepared to pay more to retain a quality level of service. (even if it was as much as a fiver a month I'd probably still pitch in....)

Even if it has to be a "Cheaper/shared" solution, surely there is more than one option out there in that category? Appreciate its a PITA moving stuff from one provider to another, but if the first one is no cop, then just try more providers until we find one that isn't shite...? 

There are forums that charge no fee at all and handle more traffic. This new software seems like it will never be good enough.

[S-Clarke]

5 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

There are forums that charge no fee at all and handle more traffic. This new software seems like it will never be good enough.

I've used Invison forums before and I've never seen it act like this, it looks like some sort of server backend issue to me, rather than the forum software it's self.

No updates at all anymore though, I think this place is being left to die on it's arse which is a real shame. As someone has said, if Steve doesn't have the time to run this anymore, and he's done a bloody good job for years and years off his own back, then please just see if someone else would like to take it on rather than let it fall away.

[Fatboy40]

16 hours ago, beatlesaint said:

Like a host server company that gives a shit when clients entrust their forums to them you mean?

Would be very interested what other forums they host and if they have these issues.

Its such a shame what’s happened here 

I believe that Steve said the forum is now hosted on AWS, so Amazon Web Services, so not a piddly shared server host.

Amazon just provide a very reliable service that you pay for, the customer is responsible for ensuring that their additional installed software operates correctly.

Edit: All DNS points to AWS.

Edited 3 September, 2020 by Fatboy40

[wild-saint]

First time i have managed to get on for about 2/3 days. Looks ominous, lets hope they can resolve it as most of the other sites are dog shit. 

 

[BARCELONASAINT]

really hope things improve. I use this site everyday for my Saints fix and will miss it if this IS the end!

[M271]

Mostly unusable today, hope it can be fixed or at least improved.

Had a look at the Ugly Inside forum and looks OK, seems to be some on there that used to be on Saintsweb and current Saintsweb members.

[darren2]

Wow!  Just got on after about 10 attempts.

[miserableoldgit]

2 hours ago, wild-saint said:

First time i have managed to get on for about 2/3 days. Looks ominous, lets hope they can resolve it as most of the other sites are dog shit. 

 

I hope so too. I have looked at other sites as well and this is by far the best.

[Lord Duckhunter]

The pleasure you get from actually managing to post is very similar to seeing a home goal under Puel. It’s strangely  satisfying after many wasted hours attempting it. 

[SuperSAINT]

1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

The pleasure you get from actually managing to post is very similar to seeing a home goal under Puel. It’s strangely  satisfying after many wasted hours attempting it. 

  

[Dellman]

This site is far the best but recently it has been a nightmare and a time waster just trying to access it, usually withoput success. What has happened and has it any future?

[lambtiss]

56 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said:

I hope so too. I have looked at other sites as well and this is by far the best.

100% this

[jasonb]

Working a treat here now..... hopefully a good sign. 

I have looked at some other sites as have others I see. 

sotonians seems to be ok but a lot of content to ignore (same as here I guess) 

r/saintsfc is ok but not a massive fan of reddit

uglyinside full of ads (Rochdale F.C. news in my case for some reason)

Twitter #saintsfc hashtag - forget it. Twitter died the moment the w*nkers joined from Instagram and FB. 

That just leaves this place with a decent mixture of people wanting to debate and discuss Saints as well as a few WUM's and the history of all the previous versions of the forum. From take-over saga's (our own as well as the blue few's), dodgy statues and all the ITK. 

I hope the site can previal and as alluded to by Sydney_Saint, the work behind the scenes is much appreciated. 

I have to agree with another poster who mentioned the Brighton site; perhaps simplifying the forum could help with all the database stuff? I only ever visit The Saints, I never go anywhere else on the site. Just my 2p. 

 

[the saint in winchester]

On 01/09/2020 at 15:17, trousers said:

By the way, the suggestion someone had previously of tunneling into the site via bookmarking an existing thread does seem to boost one's chances of getting in...

I did that a couple of weeks ago when it started to go rogue. It hasn't helped. This is the first time in like a week I have accessed the site. Bookmarking hasn't seemed to help, from my experience this week.

[Charlie Wayman]

Only made it through the maze twice in two weeks, tried everything three different browsers, Google, Siri every conceivable link. Just seems to be luck.

Even when "in" it nearly always drops out again soon afterwards with "Bad Gateway" screen. Have almost given up.